Bro all this is is getting very tiring & is besides the point la. No point talking about Gov policies and crony businesses. If u really wanna kill off the crony business, then are you prepared to boycott every single one of them? Boycott Astro, TNB, all cars, all major eateries even nasi kandar, sugar, rice, etc? Shall i list all of them? Let's be practical.

U seem to be only making a big deal out of this just cuz u bought the car cash and u expect some world class treatment but just cuz its Korean u go on and on bashing them. Put yorself in their shoes. Would you risk losing sales but revealing facts about the delays? I wouldnt cuz i would think that a few weeks of delays wont hurt anybody and seriously it doesnt. if it was gonna be a few months then i would have. Car deliveries were always between 1-3 months in general. Go check other manufacturers. Just cuz Naza does a good job and brings in cars earlier and startrs delivering within 2 weeks of booking, you raise the bar for them and start slamming them for a delay that has alot to do with factors beyond their control. It wasnt something Naza could time estimate. Everybody wanted an early solution and having u here slamming them madly while knowing only 1 side of the story doesnt actually make it a level playing field does it?

So please take my advice and stop. There are more important issues to discuss on this thread than your i-paid-for-cash-so-Naza-cant-make-any-mistakes-whatsover attitude. There are issues with the car that need to be resolved e.g steering issues. Start doing research on it, read up on it, ask some mechanics and get some base info while waiting for your car as this issue will affect EVERYBODY on varying levels. This is more of a concern than continously harping on a few weeks delay with a car delivery.

I dont mean to be blunt or rude but seriously bro, please take this down a few notches. Its really doing the Kia reputation no good at all.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Jun 22 2012, 08:15 AM

I dont even know which dealership u ordered from. Anyway, ive made my point. Im not gonna argue with you. U just come across as someone who gets obsessed with small issues but overlook the bigger ones out there.

Same with this steering issue. If u had cared to actually stop talking so much and actually start reading carefully what ppl actually say, u would have realised that i did NOT say this problem only comes at high speed. Its there even at low speed over bumps & uneven roads but the problem gets worse when you car speed increases (which is the common law of physics). The units in the US are facing more serious problems but thats probably due to the fact that their cars there are older since the K5 was launched earlier.

And i dont know why u didnt notice this problem when u test drove cuz i wasnt with u (obviously). But ive noticed this at almost all the test drive sessions ive had and in case u didnt know, i tested this car 9 times since January at 4 different dealerships under varying load conditions. Ive brought up this issue even before i collected my own car so it didnt come as a surprise when i saw it happen with my car. While i waited for my car to arrive, i had already alerted the SC to this potential problem which is probably why they responded so quickly to my problem when i brought my car in.

This is what im refering to when i say focus your energy on more important things rather than going on and on about a small delay just because u paid cash (which i think is a poor financial decision imho).

Cheers!

Good idea. Will do so next week once the replacements have been done.

No its not bad at all. Its just the steering jumps when going over bumps / uneven road. But the allignment and balancing is fine. No side pulling or vibrations in the steering wheel. The car is still well planted on the road even at high speeds.

As i mentioned before, Kia agreed to change the shock absorbers not because anything was wrong with them but merely as part of an elimination method to find the real source of the problem. I dont think the issue is with the shock absorbers but if Kia prefers to have them replaced FOC, then who am i to complain?

What setup u refering to? Do u know anything about the car in the first place ah? The only difference between ours and the US spec is the HPD. Even the Aussie units have a different HPD and are tuned differently. Suspension setup is the same. I trust u know what is a HPD?

Did i say i didnt care? Are u actually reading the posts or u merely shooting your mouth off for no reason? Yes i went ahead because the car is well worth the price despite the small steering issue. I wont allow small issues to cloud my better judgement unlike 'some people' here who like to hap on tiny delivery issues. And i have been raising various issues for other owners to check their own cars and take corrective action if required. This is the purpose of this thread. To share info and to assist one another since we are all proud owners of this car.

Let me put this clearly for you since u obviously have a problem comprehending simple English.

I AM CONCERNED BECAUSE CHANGING THE SHOCK ABSORBERS WILL PROBABLY NOT SOLVE THE STEERING 'JUMPING' PROBLEM

Are u sure u actually bought this car in the first place? Im beginning to have my doubts.

Which branch or dealer were u dealing with?

Passat is good for engine, transmission and brand name. But u need to ask yorself who are u buying this car for? You are the one driving not your peers. I too had the same problem. Ppl started saying 'for your level u should go for premium brands' but i was looking at value for money, safety, design and specs and the Optima came out tops here.

The Passat was also seriously considered as well but i knew that the design was among the worst out there. Most of the buyers of the Passat are doing it for the 3 factors i mentioned above but besides that its not really worth the money if u ask me. Most of the d segment car owners are mid age and are already established so fuel consumption is not an issue and how often are you gonna be ramming your car engine to get good acceleration?

Nobody ever looks at the Passat when its by the roadside or at traffic light stops. But u get that with the Optima. So with better warranty terms, better specs, cheaper price, better external design and larger internal space, the K5 was my clear choice. Hope it is for you as well.

Well said bro. This forum is for owners and others to discuss bout the car. We dont just discuss the good points but problems as well. If its something that affects all of us, then lets stand together and get it done right. But continously ranting on and on about something that is beyond our control is not gonna do anybody any good. In fact it will do much more harm than good.

We must always remind ourselves that there are many potential buyers out there who are adopting a wait and see attitude. The Optima K5 has surely taken the D segment by storm but many are still haunted by Kia's previous track record. We dont need to cover up any wrongdoings but let's be mature in the way we voice our displeasure.

Keep in mind that if the Optima sales are poor, its ALL of us who will pay the price for it 5 years down the line.

Cheers!

No i didnt place any booking for the Camry. I didnt like the car from the first time i set eyes on it but i was hoping the Asian version would be different and better. Plus i was hoping that it would get the new engine and transmission and a new platform.

But when it was revealed in Asia and i saw the design, 2 airbags, the 4 speed auto and 10 yr old engine, i knew immediately that there was no way i was gonna spend 150K on that dinosour.

And yes ive seen 2 on the road and i would say it looks just like a facelift of the current model. The skirting actually makes the car look worse. Dashboard looks so cheapo with the wooden panel and extra cheap plastics all around.

I dont know about sales so far but the 2 Toyota showrooms i visited past 2 weekends were almost empty. The usual hype that accompanies a new launch from Toyota surely isnt there.

160kmph is kinda normal speed for a K5 on a highway. I usually hit 180kmph average. I find it more difficult to maintain a lower speed.

Im actually quite amazed that u still cant understand what we are trying to tell you here.

Nobody said your problem is NOT a problem. All we're saying is STOP GOING ON AND ON ABOUT THE SAME THING. U have already highlighted the problem and uve already told us what uve done so leave it at that. NO need to go on and on reminding everybody that u bought the car cash and that Kia didnt deliver as promised. Just update us periodically on whats happening so that we're all aware of your problem and how Kia is resolving it. No need to mention it every 2 hours.

The car becoming available had nothing to do with your letter la bro. U think ure Najib's son ah? The dealers have much more say in this than 1 potential owner who paid cash for the car. Im sure many of the dealers around the country would have put pressure on Naza including owners like you who had already paid the dp. Its a COLLECTIVE effort so dont take personal credit for it.

Anyway, we look forward to welcoming you to the Optima K5 club and im sure we'll meet at the next TT. We have just started this journey and im sure we'll all be on the thread for a couple of years down the line.

Well i think that age should not be a factor at all. What's more important is affordability. Always remember that a car is a losing commodity. Never give in to peer pressure and always take your own personal financial situation and needs as the main consideration. Affordability is not just being able to pay for something. Its actually about proportioning expenses and investments so that you are focused on whats more important. Its actually sad to see many ppl buying bigger cars while they live in small rented properties and their families live 'kais pagi makan pagi'. If after all your expenses, you find that ure financially very stable and can afford a bigger car then by all means go for it. But always keep the future in mind. Plan for 10 years ahead not just the day after.

Bro, i just had a look at the list. U need to change the spelling of SILVER.

Here's some info for all of you. I did some reading up on the net regarding my so called problem with the Distance to Empty reading (DTE). It was only in my 1st full tank that i managed to get about 750km DTE but in subsequent full tank fill-up's ive always got less than 700km.

Based on what ive read, the DTE is not calculated just on the amount of fuel in your tank. It also takes into account your average fuel consumption of your previous 300-500km. So if i was speading at 180kmph for the last 300km, then in my next full tank fill up, the car will take this FC into account to calculate the current DTE range.

Thats why i got a high DTE on my first full tank and not in the subsequent ones.

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Added on June 23, 2012, 3:59 pmYes i agree with you. I should reduce speed. But sometimes driving at <130kmph will induce sleep which is far worse than driving at 180kmph at full attention.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Jun 23 2012, 03:59 PM

Preve has good specs and design is ok. But what ppl are still unhappy about is the pricing and the fact that because of Proton, we all have to pay more for cars in Malaysia. Hence the hatred towards Proton. So as long as they maintain such prices, many are hoping Proton will just die off.

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Added on June 24, 2012, 1:22 pmI just passed by the Toyota showroom in TTDI and it was completely EMPTY. Despite the launch of the facelift Vios and the Camry earlier, it was EMPTY.

No wonder Toyota is worried. Serves them right!

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Jun 24 2012, 01:22 PM

Just take it back to Kia and get them to do the allignment. Will be fine after that.

I really have no idea. But its not accurate. If u start the clock and drive for 1 hour, the time shown will be less than 1 hour. Dunno why.

Bro, can you stop this crap ah? Its really getting irritating now. More and more ppl are getting fed up with your continous ranting and complaining. No educated person will talk the way u do. No point boasting about buying a car cash if you cant even converse like an educated person. If u wanna contribute to the discussion here, ure most welcome do so in a mature manner. Shooting your mouth off at the members here for no damn reason is not welcome at all. Respect is earned mind you.

Only in the beginning but once they did the allignment it was fine.

Simple rule of thumb: When u have 1 or 2 ppl against you, they could be wrong but when you have many against you, then you gotta take a good hard look at yourself. We only hope that when u return, u will be a changed person. Or else its a permanent adios to you my friend. And trust me, registering new nicks wont make a difference. Cheers!