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post Apr 16 2012, 07:30 PM, updated 14y ago

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GUY, beware same thing happen AGAIN !!!

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My friend brought this HDD at PC fair 2012.

Seller : Winz Tech Supply Ent (C0021789-B)

Address : 22-2, 2nd Floor, Jalan 12/118A, Kuchai Entrepreneurs Park, Jalan Kuchai Lama.

Tel : 016 651 9733

I think this seller using FAKE info too.


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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

sorry bro,tapi memang kelakar

HAHAHAHAH
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wtf...

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post Apr 16 2012, 07:32 PM

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All take advantage of the high HDD price to sell fake HDD shocking.gif

TS report to PIKOM and also Tribunal pengguna, see what will happen
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post Apr 16 2012, 07:33 PM

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this is the problem when buy stuffs at pc fair. laugh.gif
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post Apr 16 2012, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(deanmalenko @ Apr 16 2012, 07:31 PM)
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

sorry bro,tapi memang kelakar

HAHAHAHAH
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yer la... me see also LOL non stop..

but my fren cry.gif
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QUOTE(ruffaz @ Apr 16 2012, 07:33 PM)
this is the problem when buy stuffs at pc fair. laugh.gif
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pc fair to go cuci mata and get disturbed by broadband promoters ma . tongue.gif
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hahahahahaha, gila babi btul yg jual ni..
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post Apr 16 2012, 07:34 PM

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awat tarikh tu 18/4?
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post Apr 16 2012, 07:34 PM

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how big is the flash drive memory then?
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post Apr 16 2012, 07:34 PM

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lowyat better
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post Apr 16 2012, 07:34 PM

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but how to detect that ? 22 april pc fair melaka sked i kena con also
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QUOTE(dennis_san @ Apr 16 2012, 07:33 PM)
yer la... me see also LOL non stop..

but my fren  cry.gif
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pendrive ke dalam tu?brapa gb?apa yang buat dia buka hdd tu?
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post Apr 16 2012, 07:34 PM

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i still cant brain why ppl go pc fair buy stuff nowdays, jz go to nearby lowyat la pls. pc fair now is go watch showgirls which also cant be watch already
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QUOTE(ruffaz @ Apr 16 2012, 07:33 PM)
this is the problem when buy stuffs at pc fair. laugh.gif
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Yup, lucky he lose small cash..
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wow but nvm lar, rm145 only, hopefully not too much for your friend
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QUOTE(lawliet88 @ Apr 16 2012, 07:34 PM)
i still cant brain why ppl go pc fair buy stuff nowdays, jz go to nearby lowyat la pls. pc fair now is go watch showgirls which also cant be watch already
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i understand u bro

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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

sorry bro,tapi memang kelakar

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hahahhahahahaha

weight rods some more

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QUOTE(deanmalenko @ Apr 16 2012, 07:34 PM)
lol kejam
pendrive ke dalam tu?brapa gb?apa yang buat dia buka hdd tu?
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Call seller tak dpt.. Buka je, check what inside..

Made in CHINA..
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QUOTE(dennis_san @ Apr 16 2012, 07:36 PM)
Call seller tak dpt.. Buka je, check what inside..

Made in CHINA..
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everything made in china nowadays leh ...
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last time my former lecturer when to china, bought a hdd also.

come back malaysia, he felt something not right and then de-assemble

the hdd only to know its fake. inside is just the same as ts picture.

he used to laugh at people so stupid fell for this trick but

he didnt expected to be cheated for same trick in china laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(lawliet88 @ Apr 16 2012, 07:34 PM)
i still cant brain why ppl go pc fair buy stuff nowdays, jz go to nearby lowyat la pls. pc fair now is go watch showgirls which also cant be watch already
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LOL... China fake syndrome attacking M'sia.. BTW.. I went there too but not buying..just to snap Ah Moi photos drool.gif
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dem..last one i saw similar to this is pendrive
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kesian..a quick trip to lowyat and u can get more choices and the best deals
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post Apr 16 2012, 07:39 PM

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u can report and find out the booth number by email pikom?
make it big. spread it
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Mak aih, so next is what? Fake proton?
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post Apr 16 2012, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(deanmalenko @ Apr 16 2012, 07:31 PM)
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

sorry bro,tapi memang kelakar

HAHAHAHAH
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Ah Beng mana plak jual ni? That WD stands for Wat Dafuq?
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Who wanna bid this RARE hdd !!!

LOL tongue.gif
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post Apr 16 2012, 07:40 PM

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izzit RM105 based on receipt ?? then its too good to be true

//looks like 185, which is very near to lowyat pricings of 210

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pc UNfair!!!!!


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QUOTE(stimix @ Apr 16 2012, 07:37 PM)
LOL... China fake syndrome attacking M'sia.. BTW.. I went there too but not buying..just to snap Ah Moi photos  drool.gif
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still got quality ah moi ke hmm.gif
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QUOTE(dennis_san @ Apr 16 2012, 07:40 PM)
Who wanna bid this RARE hdd !!!

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rm 1 =p
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myb the shop dono oso, ask the distributer
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QUOTE(PrincZe @ Apr 16 2012, 07:39 PM)
u can report and find out the booth number by email pikom?
make it big. spread it
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QUOTE(lawliet88 @ Apr 16 2012, 07:41 PM)
still got quality ah moi ke  hmm.gif
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Better than years ago.. This year not bad actually rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(stimix @ Apr 16 2012, 07:37 PM)
LOL... China fake syndrome attacking M'sia.. BTW.. I went there too but not buying..just to snap Ah Moi photos  drool.gif
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drills or.....
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QUOTE(stimix @ Apr 16 2012, 07:43 PM)
Better than years ago.. This year not bad actually  rclxms.gif
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RAZER booth thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ek9 @ Apr 16 2012, 07:44 PM)
drills or.....
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Delivered but using manual focus lens so abit cacatzz sad.gif

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lol..kesian sama kawan kau beroo...rm185 is quite cheap comparing to actual price?
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why the date is 18/4 or is 15/4?
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if the flash memory drives got 500gbs then justified izit?
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Wow the seller stay quite near my place..... think will go take a look at the shop later..... if it exists.
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QUOTE(stimix @ Apr 16 2012, 07:47 PM)
Delivered but using manual focus lens so abit cacatzz  sad.gif

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Why only chinese girl?
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Honestly this is WTF.

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gua tumpang simpati + gelak la

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
WAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAAKAKA

btw,pendrive tu brapa size? 512mb?
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hmm why the date was 18/4, bought in future lol
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oops warranty void.
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oops warranty void.
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that WD passport is fvcked up beyond any repair

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Tu la, want to buy cheap stuffs, now your friend get cheap stuffs.
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technically if warranty void then no refund also.
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why dont u go to the shop?
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top tip on buying off pc fair

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ts fren should learn a lesson, dont buy stuffs that is too good to be true, every price you pay comes with quality, nahhhh... this is the quality u will get when trying to save money, heheeheheheee
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this thing cost 2xx , 185 ? cheapskate deserve it
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still got ppl go buy things @ pc fair ka????
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Hey, I saw one thread somewhere at the hardware or technical support section regarding a hard disk purchased by a forumer which does not have the same capacity as the box stated.

Yeah, he bought from the same Winz booth in pcfair. He bought 640gb, but turned out to be 500gb.

You should report the case.
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resit oso cincai tulis 500gb hdd only

you think even its real hdd, can claim warranty if faulty ah? no brand/serial mentioned, any shop wont entertain your claim worr

greed is good. for the conman.
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This what happens when u be a cheapskate hunting for cheap things, end of the day u get nothing but lost money. LOL @ pcfair, never been there, not bothered about it either.
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QUOTE(deejay_krish @ Apr 16 2012, 08:18 PM)
This what happens when u be a cheapskate hunting for cheap things, end of the day u get nothing but lost money. LOL @ pcfair, never been there, not bothered about it either.
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pc fair for hamsap ppl whistling.gif whistling.gif

lowyat plaza everyday is pc fair...u know how to nego how to persuade...more cheaper will get.. tongue.gif
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Hey, I saw one thread somewhere at the hardware or technical support section regarding a hard disk purchased by a forumer which does not have the same capacity as the box stated.

Yeah, he bought from the same Winz booth in pcfair. He bought 640gb, but turned out to be 500gb.

You should report the case.
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QUOTE(dennis_san @ Apr 16 2012, 07:42 PM)
(somewhere at Hall 5, if not mistaken)
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Make a complain to the organizer for not properly filter the seller.....
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QUOTE(Mr.CoMoT @ Apr 16 2012, 08:21 PM)
pc fair for hamsap ppl  whistling.gif  whistling.gif

lowyat plaza everyday is pc fair...u know how to nego how to persuade...more cheaper will get..  tongue.gif
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U got that right, if u know how to bargain, everyday is a pcfair anywhere. For 20 to 30 bucks cheaper, u get conned, i assume its confair, not pcfair tongue.gif
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Go to nearest DAP / MCA / BN representative office now. Make a complain there, sue the organizer and the seller. Then you'll be able to purchase 1000TB hard disks with your sue money.

/cool story
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u should ask people to test it when u bought..RM145 is really cheap for 500GB
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QUOTE(bryanchoo88 @ Apr 16 2012, 08:30 PM)
u should ask people to test it when u bought..RM145 is really cheap for 500GB
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When they show it to you, it's working and really showing ~ 500GB wan.. I also kena once buying a 32GB thumbdrive from Beijing. Dirt cheap and woring when I tested on the spot.. but once I brought back to M'sia and start copying photos to that thumbdrive, it started to slow down & thereafter kenot read at all..darmit.. I also kena conned but not here
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GUY, beware same thing happen AGAIN !!!

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My friend brought this HDD at PC fair 2012.

Seller : Winz Tech Supply Ent (C0021789-B)

Address : 22-2, 2nd Floor, Jalan 12/118A, Kuchai Entrepreneurs Park, Jalan Kuchai Lama.

Tel : 016 651 9733

I think this seller using FAKE info too.
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Dafuq .... wondering any one here too got conned at Garage Sales?
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wd warranty claim say 'out of region'

hahaha tried a few country also cannot find match. dunno where its intended for
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Apr 16 2012, 08:15 PM)
Hey, I saw one thread somewhere at the hardware or technical support section regarding a hard disk purchased by a forumer which does not have the same capacity as the box stated.

Yeah, he bought from the same Winz booth in pcfair. He bought 640gb, but turned out to be 500gb.

You should report the case.
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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2305909
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WTFHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

y got 2 metal things there
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WTFHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

y got 2 metal things there
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QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Apr 16 2012, 08:42 PM)
WTFHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

y got 2 metal things there
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to fake the weight
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so already complain to pikom or not?
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WTFHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

y got 2 metal things there
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Already existed since 1 year ago...
http://www.neowin.net/news/fake-chinese-50...eight-literally
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It's irresponsible btw, not unresponsible
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ALL IT is the best if you want to choose yourself. Price is slightly more by RM5 than Pc-Zone but you get to pick.
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lolololol

i think they use this

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but not enough weight so add in two more nuts LOLOLOLOLOLOL
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Btw a sane person would actually go back to the shop instead of opening the hdd.
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Damn, now I sked buying hdd..
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wtf LOL....
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Winz Tech Supply Ent, epic Winz.


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u still cant claim the warranty..at least wait 2 more days since now is 16.. the receipt is 18.
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so cheap... I remember I buy 2nd hand 500gig Samsung 2.5" HDD just for RM 200, 2 month ago... at least it's not a fake and still got warranty...
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Wah mcm tu sekali...pergi PC Fair tngkap gmbr r dgn model..hehehe

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nextime must bring a laptop to test gau gau all those accessories before paying!!!


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I also got 1 customer came to me to do data recovery.. 3 times i tried fail than i open the case to take the hdd out to do hard mode.. Than i found this, ecxactly same.. The WD sticker is gold color.. Ecxact size is 3.76gb.. Poor customer.. Bought it from an IT shop in alam sentral 3rd floor
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the 1st time i see something so creative
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u still cant claim the warranty..at least wait 2 more days since now is 16.. the receipt is 18.
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Really pity the victim ~
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QUOTE(HazzeL1 @ Apr 16 2012, 08:57 PM)
Wah mcm tu sekali...pergi PC Fair tngkap gmbr r dgn model..hehehe


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Show you the 32GB thumbdrive I got from Beijing.. Tersted OK on that day but when brought back, kaput a day later.. cry.gif ..Dirt cheap only ~ RM35 for a 32GB last year cry.gif

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why buy not open it first?
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QUOTE(stimix @ Apr 16 2012, 09:01 PM)
Show you the 32GB thumbdrive I got from Beijing.. Tersted OK on that day but when brought back, kaput a day later.. cry.gif ..Dirt cheap only ~ RM35 for a 32GB last year  cry.gif

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irresponsible seller

does that shop exist in kuchai lama?

i think if this seller pandai pandai, he wont dare to go to next pc fair stop

wonder how many units they sold so far
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not bad i 1st time c thing like this...
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QUOTE(dennis_san @ Apr 16 2012, 07:30 PM)
GUY, beware same thing happen AGAIN !!!
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I think this seller using FAKE info too.
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TS, is that copper ? hmm.gif hmm.gif

try to sell to "Besi Buruk", see how much can profit biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


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5 years ago of my customers bought a 16gb sony usb drive in china. Come back can only detect 4 gb..... But they have firmware to install in the pc that opens up the hidden capacity.
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SSD !
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yea they put copper. doh.gif

if put batu bata small pcs inside more profit then
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first time i see this kinda thing...
i should be careful next time...its kinda creative way to scam thou..
the onli reason i didn't bought anything because i dont have any moneh..lol
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now 16gb flash drive is rm40 . i w onder if can make a hub that stacks 3-4 of these in series.
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QUOTE(arimii @ Apr 16 2012, 09:06 PM)
hahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahah
LOL

why buy not open it first?
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if u mean open to test, then i think u will fall as victim too

the drive will work just fine and it will show the full capacity of 500GB, but when u really use it to copy big files, then u will notice got error and file corrupted, etc stuffs, unless you really want to test kau kau during the purchase, then u can pwn the seller kau kau oso
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I think they are quite smart. How come so far no one kena only you. lol. I think they selling it before pcfair ends? That company confirm wanna close ad so what also cheap cheap sell. hahaha. Btw, how many GB is ur tumbdrive? quite creative to have a huge"TumbDrive" hahaha.
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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Apr 16 2012, 09:18 PM)
yea they put copper. doh.gif

if put batu bata small pcs inside more profit then
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cannot, batu will make noise if u dont glue it nicely. hahaha. At least they got heart give u 2 copper sticks, u can go sell it cheap cheap. rclxms.gif
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yea they put copper. doh.gif

if put batu bata small pcs inside more profit then
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so, try sell the Copper, copper is valueable, u know? biggrin.gif
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lol, izit pendrive? well TS, can work ah the pendrive? hahahha
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shit man.. feel sorry for ur friend.
note to self: only buy from lowyat

TS go make this nationwide news, call malay mail, star, bernama, tv3, lulz
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QUOTE(dennis_san @ Apr 16 2012, 07:30 PM)
GUY, beware same thing happen AGAIN !!!

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My friend brought this HDD at PC fair 2012.

Seller : Winz Tech Supply Ent (C0021789-B)

Address : 22-2, 2nd Floor, Jalan 12/118A, Kuchai Entrepreneurs Park, Jalan Kuchai Lama.

Tel : 016 651 9733
mohon upload TS.

nama company pun dah enterpise.u know the meaning.? whistling.gif
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spanar dalam hdd? LOLLLL
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mohon upload TS.

nama company pun dah enterpise.u know the meaning.? whistling.gif
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means what?? hmm.gif
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THis is quite rampant in china. Those idiot chinese vendors are producing this knock off products for sale both locally and in overseas market.

Really f*** this people
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Whoa, this is what it call real SSD (Solid State Drive)...
Very solid actually smile.gif
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Whoa, this is what it call real SSD (Solid State Drive)...
Very solid actually smile.gif
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can use to hantam people you know. very solid wan
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Apr 16 2012, 09:28 PM)
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Sold by that amoi?
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i would buy 10 pcs of this.
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got after sales service? brows.gif
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kesian ts punya kawan .
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hahahahahahahahaha this is an epic fake hdd lol...
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QUOTE(win7 @ Apr 16 2012, 09:27 PM)
means what?? hmm.gif
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dia jual amik cash cukup satu tempoh tutup company.bukak company lain.korang bising-bising barang tak boleh pakai atau nak claim warranty eh tengok dah takde.

tu pasal hati-hati dengan company nama belakang Enterprise..biasanya yang buat macam ni diorang ada company induk.company induk supply barang pada company enterprise tu.
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I demand TS plug in to PC and show us the capacity shown by this WD-Epic-Drive
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Ah Beng mana plak jual ni? That WD stands for Wat Dafuq?
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pcfair no cheap one, it just they sell cheap stuff.
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epic....failed....better report to pengguna and PIKOM
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I remember last time was fake thumb drive.
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report to pikom
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demmm..pity your fren..lets make it serious..
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Apr 16 2012, 09:42 PM)
dia jual amik cash cukup satu tempoh tutup company.bukak company lain.korang bising-bising barang tak boleh pakai atau nak claim warranty eh tengok dah takde.

tu pasal hati-hati dengan company nama belakang Enterprise..biasanya yang buat macam ni diorang ada company induk.company induk supply barang pada company enterprise tu.
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normaly Enterprise is under sole proprietor right...?
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complain to Pikom. I complain about fake beats headset that appeared in last year Pc fair
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Should make a police report. Not only report to Pikom or tribunal. .
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Sry bro, im sympathy towards ur post but .. wads inside is too user posted image

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aku dah check dengan SSM. Company ni

Tak WUJUD!. Company register number nothing.nama company nothing...

SSM Info


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Wrench & Drill Drive..... i saw same article before in OCAU.
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QUOTE(dennis_san @ Apr 16 2012, 07:30 PM)
GUY, beware same thing happen AGAIN !!!
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My friend brought this HDD at PC fair 2012.

Seller : Winz Tech Supply Ent (C0021789-B)

Address : 22-2, 2nd Floor, Jalan 12/118A, Kuchai Entrepreneurs Park, Jalan Kuchai Lama.

Tel : 016 651 9733

I think this seller using FAKE info too.
Already forewarned not long ago here Beware of fake external USB hard drive, 500GB shown but actually 128MB only. Next time get your stuff from Lowyat shops directly. tongue.gif

QUOTE(Blindspot61 @ Apr 16 2012, 09:49 PM)
Should make a police report. Not only report to Pikom or tribunal. .
The police report is necessary (required) when lodging the compaint to Pikom. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Apr 16 2012, 09:42 PM)
dia jual amik cash cukup satu tempoh tutup company.bukak company lain.korang bising-bising barang tak boleh pakai atau nak claim warranty eh tengok dah takde.

tu pasal hati-hati dengan company nama belakang Enterprise..biasanya yang buat macam ni diorang ada company induk.company induk supply barang pada company enterprise tu.
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thanks for the heads up.. will be more cautious with that names
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the cool thing here is not about the nuts

its about how they program the board to show the full capacity of 500GB when u connect to your computer.
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Feel sad for your friend there bro.. sad.gif
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post Apr 16 2012, 10:03 PM

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Sometimes you don't know until they issue this type of receipt. Next time decline to buy if they issue this kind of receipt. I think if this was bought at Pc fair, I think this matter should be highlighted. Imagine foreigners buying this. It will give a bad impression to Malaysia, Klcc convention center and Pikom. If you buy this at pasar malam then it is understandable but if you buy this at Pc fair this is suppose to showcase our IT industry here.

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post Apr 16 2012, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(LuckyDucky @ Apr 16 2012, 10:00 PM)
the cool thing here is not about the nuts

its about how they program the board to show the full capacity of 500GB when u connect to your computer.
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how they make it show like that?

if i plug to my own com oso show fake capacity? need to transfer 500gb inside only can know is fake?
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QUOTE(JoLee @ Apr 16 2012, 10:03 PM)
Sometimes you don't know until they issue this type of receipt. Next time decline to buy if they issue this kind of receipt. I think if this was bought at Pc fair, I think this matter should be highlighted. Imagine foreigners buying this. It will give a bad impression to Malaysia, Klcc convention center and Pikom. If you buy this at pasar malam then it is understandable but if you buy this at Pc fair this is suppose to showcase our IT industry here.
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and i dont think pikom will take responsible for this. they will say we are just organiser, we take no responsible of wat the stall/kiosk sell
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QUOTE(pandah @ Apr 16 2012, 10:04 PM)
how they make it show like that?

if i plug to my own com oso show fake capacity? need to transfer 500gb inside only can know is fake?
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no, when u plug to your com, it will show the full capacity of 500GB or whatever size it claim to be

they somehow has program the board to show that, and when u copy files to the drive, the data will keep looping and cycle in that little 128mb of space only
so at the end, u end up getting corrupted files or failed to copy files watever, if u copy files less than 128mb is fine, only files beyond that 128mb capacity then u will get corrupted files.
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you guys just go in a gang with paid thugs and inspect all the next pc fair booths selling HDD. If you catch them, sure people will turn a blind eye as you all belasah them gao gao. empty their wallets while you're at it. they deserve it.
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QUOTE(LuckyDucky @ Apr 16 2012, 10:07 PM)
no, when u plug to your com, it will show the full capacity of 500GB or whatever size it claim to be

they somehow has program the board to show that, and when u copy files to the drive, the data will keep looping and cycle in that little 128mb of space only
so at the end, u end up getting corrupted files or failed to copy files watever, if u copy files less than 128mb is fine, only files beyond that 128mb capacity then u will get corrupted files.
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really wicked, can think of all sorts of tactics to cheat ppl mad.gif
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omg...lucky i din go PC fair...will also avoid upcoming pc fair too =(
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I think the event organizers would have to vet the stall applicant for Precisely this reason.
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lol next time try hdd on spot when buying
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QUOTE(LuckyDucky @ Apr 16 2012, 10:07 PM)
no, when u plug to your com, it will show the full capacity of 500GB or whatever size it claim to be

they somehow has program the board to show that, and when u copy files to the drive, the data will keep looping and cycle in that little 128mb of space only
so at the end, u end up getting corrupted files or failed to copy files watever, if u copy files less than 128mb is fine, only files beyond that 128mb capacity then u will get corrupted files.
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probably something to do with the file table. i havent looked into that but it shouldnt be too hard to code.
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really wicked, can think of all sorts of tactics to cheat ppl  mad.gif
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ya, these day ppl so desperate for money, can do anything for money
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post Apr 16 2012, 10:14 PM

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very unresponssible la these seller...x de jati diri
msti lagi ramai non-forummer yg kene tipu
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Apr 16 2012, 09:56 PM)
thanks for the heads up.. will be more cautious with that names
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sometimes got SDN BHD company do same things.but more better careful with enterprise.tak kira la repair laptop ke repair tv ke kereta ke..kalau belakang ada nama Enterprise..please careful.but if bussiness running more than 5 years thats ok la to believe.

this kind of enterprise company if customer saman ganti rugi atau apa..the fact is yang kena saman owner bukan company.because rules number one enterprise:

Owner and Company become ONE and Integrated..company dead owner die..Owner suffer company die.tapi such in this case company dalam resit tu takde data langsung. mad.gif

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probably something to do with the file table. i havent looked into that but it shouldnt be too hard to code.
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i doubt that too

so next time want to buy HD, have to copy a really big files to validate the hd is ok, or check the serial number from the hd manufacturer website.
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post Apr 16 2012, 10:16 PM

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PC Fair memang sucks. I don't know who in the right mind would want to buy anything there. I ended up going to LowYat with my friends to buy stuff (Thunder Match/Sri Comp/All IT). Cheaper, and I trust that these stores are reputable resellers and distributors.

Nearly everything in the PC FAIL is fake. All those promoters ushering fake Beats earphones for you to try. You get what I mean la.

Just boycott PC Fair, it's not like there's anything worth buying.
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Pity those foreigners who bought this and bring it back to their country to find out.
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QUOTE(dennis_san @ Apr 16 2012, 08:30 PM)
GUY, beware same thing happen AGAIN !!!

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My friend brought this HDD at PC fair 2012.

Seller : Winz Tech Supply Ent (C0021789-B)

Address : 22-2, 2nd Floor, Jalan 12/118A, Kuchai Entrepreneurs Park, Jalan Kuchai Lama.

Tel : 016 651 9733

I think this seller using FAKE info too.
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QUOTE(dennis_san @ Apr 16 2012, 07:30 PM)

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korang tahu tak kos resit yang ni cuma berharga RM 1.60 dan cop company tu cuma RM 5.00 ni pun stamp cop. biggrin.gif

kalau buat claim guna resit macam ni mmg dibakulsampahkan. rclxms.gif
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I never been pc fair long time ago since 2004, u can buy gadget there maybe can la , because the pc fair compromise all shops outlet outside kl , which is bit expensive more than lowyat, some more they rent the place convention centre, that may expensive to rent ..


apa lagi report police laa.. since you have receipt as purchase proof ..

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post Apr 16 2012, 10:24 PM

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Hie TS, im one of the victim for your case... but i got my money back the next day i purchase the hdd from him.. is there anything you want me to help you with?
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post Apr 16 2012, 10:30 PM

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Damn, Ini macam kene ade xray to verify external hdd lor..
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yes.. you can verify your hdd serial number... by using HD Tunes, WD diagnostic tools... you can go to the WD website to register your product... to see if the S/N match with your P/N.. and etc..
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QUOTE(dennis_san @ Apr 16 2012, 07:30 PM)
GUY, beware same thing happen AGAIN !!!

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My friend brought this HDD at PC fair 2012.

Seller : Winz Tech Supply Ent (C0021789-B)

Address : 22-2, 2nd Floor, Jalan 12/118A, Kuchai Entrepreneurs Park, Jalan Kuchai Lama.

Tel : 016 651 9733

I think this seller using FAKE info too.
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The correct term to use is irresponsible

There is no english word 'unresponsible'
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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Apr 16 2012, 10:20 PM)
you also kena?????????????
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2042211/all
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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Apr 16 2012, 10:27 PM)
go and spam this on pikom facebook

http://www.facebook.com/MYPIKOM
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trolololol....a flash drive...xDDDD...price for those stuff in pc fair aint that much different from outside anyway....
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QUOTE(latias93 @ Apr 16 2012, 10:16 PM)
PC Fair memang sucks. I don't know who in the right mind would want to buy anything there. I ended up going to LowYat with my friends to buy stuff (Thunder Match/Sri Comp/All IT). Cheaper, and I trust that these stores are  reputable resellers and distributors.

Nearly everything in the PC FAIL is fake. All those promoters ushering fake Beats earphones for you to try. You get what I mean la.

Just boycott PC Fair, it's not like there's anything worth buying.
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even viewnet,thundermatch got booth in pc fair
if u wanna go 2 pc fair,make sure search for known shop,avoid small booth which u never heard of it existence
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basically.. ts cannot do anything right now... just file a case and sue the seller... try to call or text the seller.. the time when i called him, he was actually quite scared also.....
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QUOTE(ChrisWeiYuan @ Apr 16 2012, 10:38 PM)
basically.. ts cannot do anything right now... just file a case and sue the seller... try to call or text the seller.. the time when i called him, he was actually quite scared also.....
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how come u can call him?
he gave u the right information about his number?

wow thats stupid.
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berapa gb doh pendrive
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post Apr 16 2012, 10:46 PM

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when i plug in and check using the WD diagnostic tools, it said it's unknown device and consists of 537gb... the reading speed and transfer speed is extremely slow also....

i went to the booth directly the next day after i purchased from the seller.... and i request the fellow's number also..
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goes to show how dangerous it is to buy stuff at pc fair. you dont know if the seller is legit or not.
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Saw this there! RM180 for 500GB! Damn.. Fortunately, my friend didn't make it... ><''
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thumbup.gif Buy from the Big Booth which show u WD sign from far ,then u wont get con. there are 20-30 men/women working for WD at ball Room hmm.gif reliable


notworthy.gif ur fren icon_rolleyes.gif
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seriously 22-2, 2nd Floor, Jalan 12/118A? 222212???
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can you find the retail? or the exact location of the shop?
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post Apr 16 2012, 11:18 PM

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Haha you kena cheat liao.

my friend bought the ori one. layout also nicer than yours
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post Apr 16 2012, 11:20 PM

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Lolz. That company is a scammmmmm!!!
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Tell pikom to be responsible !!!!

They the one who preselect the seller. Corruption happen in pikom. One of pikom staff sure earn big bucks from selling this stuff.
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Smbdy should print this pic on banner and put it togther wth all the advrtsmnt during pc fair event.
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post Apr 16 2012, 11:23 PM

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More likely the seller got scammed by their distributor.
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damn funny wei... lol! cha dou
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Well can still get back money a bit. How much can sell copper for recycle?
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My condolence to TS friend... There are indeed some irresponsible reseller/distributor in PC Fair and most of them are selling stuff at retail price where you can get a better deal in Lowyat. However there are also times when you can get some nice deals which you couldn't get even in Lowyat, for example: HP Mono Laserjet P1102, Retail price RM 309 and lowyat selling at 299 sometimes even 280 but in PC Fair they're selling for 299 with RM 100 voucher so pick your deal but pls bear in mind only a few items in PC Fair is cheaper than what other retailer can offer.

My only advice is to go for the reputable reseller such as ThunderMatch, Makiwa, All IT, IT Gadget as you would have reference in case of something like this...
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i think they will only dare to sell this kind of thing on the last day of the fair.

so if you need to buy something, buy it on the 1st or 2nd day.
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QUOTE(kamaljit9 @ Apr 16 2012, 11:29 PM)
i think they will only dare to sell this kind of thing on the last day of the fair.

so if you need to buy something, buy it on the 1st or 2nd day.
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But most people have the impression that price will be lower on last day due to seller want to clear stock.
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previously pc fair vendor selling faked iphone or faked phone now faked hdd. Later faked ?????
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But most people have the impression that price will be lower on last day due to seller want to clear stock.
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and also more free gifts
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previously pc fair vendor selling faked iphone or faked phone now faked hdd. Later faked ?????
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he should check box open or not before la

inb4,hahahahahahahahahhahahahhhahaha
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Apr 16 2012, 11:33 PM)
and also more free gifts
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Only the last 1 or 2 hours, sometimes they couldn't hit the quota by a few units so they're willing to sell for cheap cheap price... The Kingston booth opposite my booth is selling 8GB pendrive for RM 15... I heard the original price for the pendrive was RM 20...
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TS got a solid state drive (SSD) for rm185. not bad.

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QUOTE(tjay_tj @ Apr 16 2012, 11:39 PM)
TS got a solid state drive (SSD) for rm185. not bad.
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QUOTE(lawliet88 @ Apr 16 2012, 08:34 PM)
i still cant brain why ppl go pc fair buy stuff nowdays, jz go to nearby lowyat la pls. pc fair now is go watch showgirls which also cant be watch already
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not relate to brain or no brain ok? defination of pc fair its a place where ppl can purchase things there, not everyong likes go lowyat! whats problem you
its the shop who did the con thing, not the fair itself

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QUOTE(ahinigami @ Apr 17 2012, 12:36 AM)
Only the last 1 or 2 hours, sometimes they couldn't hit the quota by a few units so they're willing to sell for cheap cheap price... The Kingston booth opposite my booth is selling 8GB pendrive for RM 15... I heard the original price for the pendrive was RM 20...
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no choice lor, the booth rental also need rental mah
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QUOTE(ck_boon @ Apr 16 2012, 11:40 PM)
not relate to brain or no brain ok? defination of pc fair its a place where ppl can purchase things there, not everyong likes go lowyat! whats problem you
its the shop who did the con thing, not the fair itself

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you setupid, pc fair is just to get rid of old stock so they'll have money to bring in the new stuff
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QUOTE(pandah @ Apr 16 2012, 10:04 PM)
how they make it show like that?

if i plug to my own com oso show fake capacity? need to transfer 500gb inside only can know is fake?
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Normally , if External Harddisk got some noise from the Hard Disk It Self. In My Computer (Windows), It will show on Hard Disk Instead of Removable Drive If the Seller Use the USB Flash as the medium.If you bought USB Disk From China, You may this Using this Software to check the actual capacity. By Using Software h2testw , its will test the actual drive even
in Properties show A Bigger GB size from the actual size.

Some of the Seller using Ameco Software to create a fake Capacity of USB drive. I Juga sudah kena masa beli 1PC USB from Ebay.
That the software i get when i searching via google and study hot to fake the capacity.

If you bought Fake USB 32GB but the actual sizde are 2GB, you may use the software(Ameco) to restore back to its original Capasity and can use as normal 2GB

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QUOTE(vexus @ Apr 16 2012, 11:32 PM)
previously pc fair vendor selling faked iphone or faked phone now faked hdd. Later faked ?????
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The Seller also Fake one.. hehehehehe
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Wat in the world is that?!
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go pc fair see model or amoi amoi one...wan buy buy at lowyat garage sales...XD..so what did they put inside the HDD?
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QUOTE(vexus @ Apr 16 2012, 11:32 PM)
previously pc fair vendor selling faked iphone or faked phone now faked hdd. Later faked ?????
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Faked iphone nevermind, at least we know it is fake before buy;
but fake hdd......nobody will even know unless they test it.<<<-----WE ALWAYS ANGRY IF WE BOUGHT FAKE STUFF WITH ORIGINAL STUFF PRICES!!!!

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QUOTE(dennis_san @ Apr 16 2012, 07:30 PM)
GUY, beware same thing happen AGAIN !!!

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My friend brought this HDD at PC fair 2012.

Seller : Winz Tech Supply Ent (C0021789-B)

Address : 22-2, 2nd Floor, Jalan 12/118A, Kuchai Entrepreneurs Park, Jalan Kuchai Lama.

Tel : 016 651 9733

I think this seller using FAKE info too.
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Inb4 the shop later sue TS for defaming. whistling.gif

BTW, the quality of new fake HDD "improved" huh?
Last time it was like this.
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My fren bought 1 as well @ RM199 @@ Goodness, he feel strange bout the ext hdd but he din open up, i guess is the same @@ the receipt exactly the same @@ haix.. Gotcha !!!
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is ithe give you wireless modem accidently
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what western digital that my external brand
gonna check my external
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pc fair to go cuci mata and get disturbed by broadband promoters ma . tongue.gif
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pity ts

btw i cant find anything interesting with pcfair anymore

the last time i went there,was like.....8 years ago rolleyes.gif


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I don't mean to sound like a douche, but its irresponsible not unresponsible.

I don't mean to sound like an ass, but HAHAHAHAHAHA! That's funny!

I don't mean to sound like a vigilante, but find the f***er and whack him!

I... That is all...
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QUOTE(stimix @ Apr 16 2012, 07:37 PM)
LOL... China fake syndrome attacking M'sia.. BTW.. I went there too but not buying..just to snap Ah Moi photos  drool.gif
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irresponsible....not unresponsible...
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TS do you remember the booth number? Maybe you can contact PIKOM regarding such incident and ask them for their actual company and person in charge for the booth.

Let us know if you're able to reveal the true identity of the conman.
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TS do you remember the booth number? Maybe you can contact PIKOM regarding such incident and ask them for their actual company and person in charge for the booth.

Let us know if you're able to reveal the true identity of the conman.
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sometimes the seller not even know or realize that their stock they have is fake until people complaint to them, so weather the seller have intention to scam or not, we just need to find out is the seller is reachable at this moment, if they unreachable and dont pick up calls or the address is fake, then proven they are conman.
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Haha you kena cheat liao.

my friend bought the ori one. layout also nicer than yours
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QUOTE(win7 @ Apr 16 2012, 09:16 PM)
TS, is that copper ? hmm.gif  hmm.gif

try to sell to "Besi Buruk", see how much can profit  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(dennis_san @ Apr 16 2012, 07:30 PM)
GUY, beware same thing happen AGAIN !!!

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My friend brought this HDD at PC fair 2012.

Seller : Winz Tech Supply Ent (C0021789-B)

Address : 22-2, 2nd Floor, Jalan 12/118A, Kuchai Entrepreneurs Park, Jalan Kuchai Lama.

Tel : 016 651 9733

I think this seller using FAKE info too.
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pikom got security camera easy identify scammer.
u can take to court if you have time and money ^^
pikom can claim they do not hold responsibility for the seller.
however did they not state in any of their flyers oradvertisement
that they are not responsible for the sellers. thus falsifying information and advertisement. If pikom still resistant to help take the group down. send to media.

still don't want help. than company reliability slowly dies out.
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Hey people! I wonder why some of the guy just saying other stupid or any bull shit that relate to buying cheap things then u deserve to get this. Hey come on, the problem here is not the problem on buying cheap or not. Think about it if you are the one facing this problem, what is your feeling? This is quite a serious issues to Malaysia, did you guy notice on it? Buying things in PC fair does not have any problem; the problem is the ethics of the merchant. Singapore PC fair also selling a lot of cheap stuff but why they don’t have this problem? Think about it people. I know this is funny, but buying cheap things didn’t do any things wrong!


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QUOTE(pastst @ Apr 16 2012, 11:42 PM)
you setupid, pc fair is just to get rid of old stock so they'll have money to bring in the new stuff
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Haha, actually not every company are interested in selling their items in PC Fairs, but some are kena forced by PIKOM or some said Government..
So you pay the rental for booths and you get your license to do business.. icon_idea.gif
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Well, I should say I've heard a lot of TALKING here, so did someone actually complained to PIKOM and got a response? I am a little concerned about these matters because it has happened more than ONCE. I know about the PIKOM T&C that they're not responsible bla bla bla but what if it gets out of hand? So if more and more 'enterprises' sell these stuff at future PC Fair, is the organizer not going to do ANYTHING about it? Are we going to practice the typical Malaysian "Ayaaa ... they won't responsible one lar ... complain also no use one lor" mentality?? rolleyes.gif

Looks like we as consumers should come up with our own T&C ... "More of fake goods and we will BOYCOTT the fair ... fare and square?" rclxms.gif
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Those who are staying near Kuchai Entrepreneurs Park/Kuchai Lama ... do others AND yourself a favor by crashing into the address and see if there's a "Winz Tech" there, simple as that.

Should there be one, kindly advise the TS's friend to claim back his money, failure which, tell Winz that he will bring up the matter to Western D, plain and simple.
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pipu always say dont buy online, sked kena scam

now COD oso kena scam

obviously scammers these day went beyond limit liao
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QUOTE(ac98 @ Apr 17 2012, 10:49 AM)
Those who are staying near Kuchai Entrepreneurs Park/Kuchai Lama ... do others AND yourself a favor by crashing into the address and see if there's a "Winz Tech" there, simple as that.

Should there be one, kindly advise the TS's friend to claim back his money, failure which, tell Winz that he will bring up the matter to Western D, plain and simple.
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enough talking, action needed...we help each other.. cool2.gif
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QUOTE(LuckyDucky @ Apr 17 2012, 10:50 AM)
pipu always say dont buy online, sked kena scam

now COD oso kena scam

obviously scammers these day went beyond limit liao
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police in Malaysia cacat one, so can do full power scam.

try put scammer into death sentence + strong enforcement in Police department see how. tongue.gif

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just notify a friend working in WD! this is funny enough, as u all aware how well MY grey country practice the law. This company will run free as always
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Dear Dennis, kindly contact us at PIKOM, 03-7955 2922 and ask for the Project Team. We have noted your complaint and would like to resolve this matter immediately. You may also send us your contact details to pcfair@pikom.org.my and we will be in touch with you soon. Thank you.
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err, izzit the date 18/4???

today only 17/4...

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err, izzit the date 18/4???

today only 17/4...

hmmm...  hmm.gif
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Finally, PIKOM listens! ... thank you very much for the swift action! rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(PC_Fair @ Apr 17 2012, 01:23 PM)
Dear Dennis, kindly contact us at PIKOM, 03-7955 2922 and ask for the Project Team.  We have noted your complaint and would like to resolve this matter immediately.  You may also send us your contact details to pcfair@pikom.org.my and we will be in touch with you soon.  Thank you.
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Finally, PIKOM listens! Thank you very much for the swift action! rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
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only regsitered today..not another scammer?
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QUOTE(PC_Fair @ Apr 17 2012, 01:23 PM)
Dear Dennis, kindly contact us at PIKOM, 03-7955 2922 and ask for the Project Team.  We have noted your complaint and would like to resolve this matter immediately.  You may also send us your contact details to pcfair@pikom.org.my and we will be in touch with you soon.  Thank you.
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QUOTE(PC_Fair @ Apr 17 2012, 01:23 PM)
Dear Dennis, kindly contact us at PIKOM, 03-7955 2922 and ask for the Project Team.  We have noted your complaint and would like to resolve this matter immediately.  You may also send us your contact details to pcfair@pikom.org.my and we will be in touch with you soon.  Thank you.

seems legit hmm.gif
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Adush! Yeah, this problem is getting out of hand. Lodge a complain!
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QUOTE(stimix @ Apr 16 2012, 07:37 PM)
LOL... China fake syndrome attacking M'sia.. BTW.. I went there too but not buying..just to snap Ah Moi photos  drool.gif
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QUOTE(dennis_san @ Apr 16 2012, 07:30 PM)
GUY, beware same thing happen AGAIN !!!

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My friend brought this HDD at PC fair 2012.

Seller : Winz Tech Supply Ent (C0021789-B)

Address : 22-2, 2nd Floor, Jalan 12/118A, Kuchai Entrepreneurs Park, Jalan Kuchai Lama.

Tel : 016 651 9733

I think this seller using FAKE info too.
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It happens to me once 2-3 years ago...

Hmmm... PC fair always, ALWAYS this kind of things happen...

Hopefully this doesnt happen to anyone here AGAIN....

i just want to give some advice here...
When u go Pikom PC fair (when purchasing anything covered tightly)
1. ask the seller whether can open the unit and check before purchasing, this is to make sure everything inside is like what the seller / box mentioned)
2. if the seller doesnt allow, pay the money and open the box / container / plastic that holds the item, check thoroughly.... (if the item not as mentioned u can jus straightaway launch a report on the spot)
3. lodged a report? and next ask for replacement if insist lodge report to tribunal pengguna...

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Just google around and I found similar fake hard disk with the photo..mostly are china fake hard disk from online purchase...I believe the seller also got all this fake product from china and sell it here??? really need to becareful...

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http://tech.watchstor.com/storage-module-136905_2.htm

http://www.cntechnews.info/3-15-the-advent...ackdown-secret/

http://news.cnnb.com.cn/system/2012/03/19/007267532.shtml
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how come the harddisk become like this= =
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Ah Beng mana plak jual ni? That WD stands for Wat Dafuq?
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warranty cover or not??
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LOL, this is so GENIUS. hahaha. sorry for your friends.
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QUOTE(silkysilk @ Apr 17 2012, 08:08 PM)
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No, cause you break open the HDD and the seal.

Exactly as planned. brows.gif
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No, cause you break open the HDD and the seal.

Exactly as planned. brows.gif
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even if can claimed warranty, they give back the same scam item rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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Bro, macam ada cap jari je di resit tu..
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ini SSD!! biggrin.gif
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with dumbell inside?
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Luckily i test it 1st when i bought this same model last year. LOL
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Betol jugak.. SSD.. Siap dgn mounting screws..

PC Fair will just bring a pain to you A**.. Go to trusted dealers.. Easily..
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pc fair is not place to buy pc stuff la..haiyoo..u go there to watch amoi only..
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pc fair is not place to buy pc stuff la..haiyoo..u go there to watch amoi only..
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Well, PIKOM has respond to my FB post. So TS, better contact them now.

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my fren last time at UTP also kena.. actually is utp alot of ppl kena, they bring in pc shop to the uni but sell to their student this kind of things..
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That's why I don't buy in PC fair...

Buy from kedai at least I'll know where to throw my molotov cocktail when I got cheated.. -.-

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