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SUSVincentChen
post Jun 15 2012, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jun 15 2012, 12:42 PM)
erm, why do you need a spotter for squats? if you have a squat rack or power rack you should be able to do it solo. in fact, if you HAD a spotter/partner but no squat rack i wouldnt recommend you do squats lol.
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oh yea, i forgot that the racks got bars to block the weigh from dropping on me ..... doh.gif
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post Jun 15 2012, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jun 15 2012, 12:42 PM)
erm, why do you need a spotter for squats? if you have a squat rack or power rack you should be able to do it solo. in fact, if you HAD a spotter/partner but no squat rack i wouldnt recommend you do squats lol.
imo fat gripz is kinda a double edged sword.
benefits: you get a great grip, more forearm stimulation
cons: you lift lighter, therefore you dont get a 100% workout for the muscle part you're targeting in the first place.

why train your forearms while doing other lifts when you could isolate them in the first place? as you said, aesthetics are your main priority so why work on your grip?

as for deadlifts, sure it helps with grip power, though its not the -only- way. my max for raw deads has increased concurrently with my non raw ones, and i dont do any other work for forearms.
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smile.gif switch for a change awhile,totally different feel ! fresh !
more variations
I dont use it everyday,err twice a week just to replace some wrist curl and forearm work
i really dont like to do forearm actually hence my arm looks long and lanky

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post Jun 15 2012, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(VincentChen @ Jun 15 2012, 12:31 PM)
i find them to be uncomfortable also, because it limits my range of motion, my back is so taxing when im at the bottom of the squat, but i cant do normal squat because i dont have a partner/ spotter with me  sweat.gif anyway, thx man, now i feels good squatting at smith machine smile.gif
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I never need a spotter when I'm I do squat, and yes my gym just have the squat rack, no safety at all. These are several tips if you got no safety and no spotter.
1. Never go to failure. If you fail, the floor is there to catch you.
2. Listen to your body. If your body says 50/50 on the last rep, don't do the rep.
3. Learn how to throw the bar behind you. There is a video on how to bail if you fail on squat. They even suggest to try to bail purposely in order to bail successfully when it is needed.
4. Do box squat. This technique kills two bird with one stone. This technique is always being used by the Westside Barbell and it works very well. It also acts as 'safety' when you fail to get out of the hole, provided there is someone to help you get up. If not, throw the bar.


Added on June 15, 2012, 1:25 pm
QUOTE(VincentChen @ Jun 15 2012, 12:50 PM)
oh yea, i forgot that the racks got bars to block the weigh from dropping on me ..... doh.gif
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so it has safety and yeah doh.gif doh.gif

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post Jun 15 2012, 01:44 PM

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I need supporter for my squat =="

yesterday i did 4 plates for squat and went to deep below, cant get up. So just left the barbell on the safety bar.. is too friggin heavy sad.gif
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post Jun 15 2012, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jun 15 2012, 01:44 PM)
I need supporter for my squat =="

yesterday i did 4 plates for squat and went to deep below, cant get up. So just left the barbell on the safety bar.. is too friggin heavy sad.gif
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do you have those leg wraps? imo with weight that heavy you're gonna need them.
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post Jun 15 2012, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jun 15 2012, 01:24 PM)
I never need a spotter when I'm I do squat, and yes my gym just have the squat rack, no safety at all. These are several tips if you got no safety and no spotter.
1. Never go to failure. If you fail, the floor is there to catch you.
2. Listen to your body. If your body says 50/50 on the last rep, don't do the rep.
3. Learn how to throw the bar behind you. There is a video on how to bail if you fail on squat. They even suggest to try to bail purposely in order to bail successfully when it is needed.
4. Do box squat. This technique kills two bird with one stone. This technique is always being used by the Westside Barbell and it works very well. It also acts as 'safety' when you fail to get out of the hole, provided there is someone to help you get up. If not, throw the bar.


Added on June 15, 2012, 1:25 pm
so it has safety and yeah  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Usually if I feLt like last rep 50/50 I will go do it, if sucesss, it feels damn good hahaha

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post Jun 15 2012, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(VincentChen @ Jun 15 2012, 01:59 PM)
Usually if I feLt like last rep 50/50 I will go do it, if sucesss, it feels damn good hahaha
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Well, if you don't have a safety or a spotter, you got 50% chance of failure. But you can do what ever you want to do.
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post Jun 15 2012, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jun 15 2012, 01:49 PM)
do you have those leg wraps? imo with weight that heavy you're gonna need them.
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yes, only start using for 2nd week because kinda sked if go so heavy. Thanks to the bar or else the bar still on top of me right now.. I try to go really heavy but is not the time yet...

A bit phobia ade lol hhaha.. tongue.gif
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post Jun 15 2012, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jun 15 2012, 02:02 PM)
Well, if you don't have a safety or a spotter, you got 50% chance of failure. But you can do what ever you want to do.
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He has safeties.

I agree with your statement though. Explains why my bench is stagnant lol. Squats and deads are going up nicely. I think I'm gonna setup my bench on the power rack next time lol, need to figure out how to put safeties in place though hmm
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post Jun 15 2012, 02:33 PM

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it is ok doing squat using this smith machine?...

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post Jun 15 2012, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jun 15 2012, 02:05 PM)
yes, only start using for 2nd week because kinda sked if go so heavy. Thanks to the bar or else the bar still on top of me right now.. I try to go really heavy but is not the time yet...

A bit phobia ade lol hhaha.. tongue.gif
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I phobia on average 3 to 4 times a week, haha. Especiallly lifts with no safeties. You never failed on squats before this?

God if u guys see me in a gym you would think I'm some sort of a chicken, lol.
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post Jun 15 2012, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jun 15 2012, 02:40 PM)
I phobia on average 3 to 4 times a week, haha. Especiallly lifts with no safeties. You never failed on squats before this?

God if u guys see me in a gym you would think I'm some sort of a chicken, lol.
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weh... ur strength is incredible.. I cant even lift as heavy as you.. Previously, i dont go that heavy, 3 plates is still an ok for me but 4 plates without spotter, i failed lol..
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post Jun 15 2012, 02:59 PM

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Failing on squats, lol. I failed once on squats, set the safeties too damn low, I'm stuck right underneath the bar and the safeties. Embarrassing as hell. And the roll of shame on bench. lol.


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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jun 15 2012, 02:58 PM)
weh... ur strength is incredible.. I cant even lift as heavy as you.. Previously, i dont go that heavy, 3 plates is still an ok for me but 4 plates without spotter, i failed lol..
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u up plate by plate, i up 5lb by 5lb only -__- .

agree on your statement that mike is strong, he is strong as fuuaaaarrrrrrkkkkkkkk

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post Jun 15 2012, 03:03 PM

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guys, im losing so much of size... not getting leaner.. any guide?? sigh.. being depress haha.. fail at cutting again..
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Jun 15 2012, 02:59 PM)
Failing on squats, lol. I failed once on squats, set the safeties too damn low, I'm stuck right underneath the bar and the safeties. Embarrassing as hell. And the roll of shame on bench. lol.


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u up plate by plate, i up 5lb by 5lb only -__- .

agree on your statement that mike is strong, he is strong as fuuaaaarrrrrrkkkkkkkk
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Twice roll of shame, once squat bailout for me.

Mike is strong, He is in the 400 lbs deadlift group biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jun 15 2012, 03:03 PM)
guys, im losing so much of size... not getting leaner.. any guide?? sigh.. being depress haha.. fail at cutting again..
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macros? training split?

@alien9 - yeah, strong mofo, I'm only deadlifting 1/4 of my BW. sad

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QUOTE(razorboy @ Jun 15 2012, 03:10 PM)
macros? training split?

@alien9 - yeah, strong mofo, I'm only deadlifting 1/4 of my BW. sad
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What's your bodyweight? 800 lbs? lol
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jun 15 2012, 03:11 PM)
What's your bodyweight? 800 lbs? lol
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right around there. lol biggrin.gif
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post Jun 15 2012, 03:13 PM

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im surprised you guys arent seeing the irony in this. Mel is soo much stronger leh wtf. who the hell here has the balls to squat 4 plates tell me, i give present.

he probably not posting deadlift numbers because hes not doing them, and his warmup would probably be my max (like chris, grrrrrrrrrrrrr)

bailed out twice on flat bench, once on smith bench (yeah, i couldnt even lock it in lol), once on squats
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jun 15 2012, 03:13 PM)
im surprised you guys arent seeing the irony in this. Mel is soo much stronger leh wtf. who the hell here has the balls to squat 4 plates tell me, i give present.

he probably not posting deadlift numbers because hes not doing them, and his warmup would probably be my max (like chris, grrrrrrrrrrrrr)

bailed out twice on flat bench, once on smith bench (yeah, i couldnt even lock it in lol), once on squats
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4 x 5 lbs plates counted? lol

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