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post Apr 6 2012, 04:48 AM, updated 14y ago

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hi guys
i wanna ask which supplements is good to improve my memory and can make me more focuse when i study or in the class?
i dont know why my memory is so suck which is to hard to memorize a simple note and also i cant concentrate when my lectrurer is teaching which at the last make me hard to understand what they're teaching..and as usually i always asking the lecturer when im not understand but i must ask the lecturer at least 5 times to make me understand which it make me look stupid in front of my friends cry.gif
i heard this product is quite good
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post Apr 6 2012, 06:41 AM

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The Natrol Memory Complex is quite good, and was what
I had thought of giving my demented father in the nursing home.

Huperzine A, phosphatidylserine and vinpocetine have all been
tried at one time or another on Alzheimer's patients.

Note that the ginkgo dose is quite high, however, and it has been
known to cause bleeding disorders as well as high blood pressure
in some people.

Livewell's Memosential is also another one which I had been
urging my siblings to give him (nobody listens to me, however).

http://www.livewell2u.com/products.php?p=memosential
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QUOTE(Tham @ Apr 6 2012, 06:41 AM)
The Natrol Memory Complex is quite good, and was what
I had thought of giving my demented father in the nursing home.

Huperzine A, phosphatidylserine and vinpocetine have all been
tried at one time or another on Alzheimer's patients.

Note that the ginkgo dose is quite high, however, and it has been
known to cause bleeding disorders as well as high blood pressure
in some people.

Livewell's Memosential is also another one which I had been
urging my siblings to give him (nobody listens to me, however).

http://www.livewell2u.com/products.php?p=memosential
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wow that makes me think twice to buy The Natrol Memory Complex sweat.gif
u got the another product that does not have side effect? biggrin.gif

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Wow is it available for brain ?? -.-"
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You can try the Memosential above.

ALCAR AND PS are two brain nutrients well known
as nootropics amongst life extensionists. As far as I know,
Livewell is the only one who has brought in ALCAR here.

ALCAR wasn't even available in the US two decades ago, and
they had to order it at high cost from Europe then. I've given it
to my father before.

It's now a common supplement, along with PS, in health food
stores there. They have a better form now, acetyl l-carnitine arginate
(ALCA).

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/dec200...p_acetyl_01.htm


I have Jarrow's CarnitALL on my office table, which includes ALCA
and was supposed to have been given to my father long ago, but
I can't get it past my brother.


Anyone familiar with life extension will automatically include
ALCAR in a protocol for Alzheimer's and Parkinson's.
You can read Annetta Freeman's protocol for her own Parkinson's here.

http://www.ceri.com/annett4.htm

Other well known brain supplements -

Citicholine, or CDP choline
Alpha GPC
The racetams - piracetam, aniracetam, pramiracetam, oxiracetam

http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/27369...s-pramiracetam/


http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Citic...-Capsules/27417


Here's one which you can order, with CDP choline, ALCAR and PS.

http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Neuro...20-Capsules/350


First of all, you should have a good base to start off with.

Get a good B-complex formula first, vital for good brain function,
or a multivit with a fair amount of B vitamins.


Livewell's Dailysential 45+ is a good one here. Since it lacks
calcium and magnesium, complement it with Ostecal. You can
get them at any pharmacy.





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post Apr 9 2012, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(faezfahmi618 @ Apr 6 2012, 04:48 AM)
hi guys
i wanna ask which supplements is good to improve my memory and can make me more focuse when i study or in the class?
i dont know why my memory is so suck which is to hard to memorize a simple note and also i cant concentrate when my lectrurer is teaching which at the last make me hard to understand what they're teaching..and as usually i always asking the lecturer when im not understand but i must ask the lecturer at least 5 times to make me understand which it make me look stupid in front of my friends  cry.gif
i heard this product is quite good
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Are you feeling tired / sleepy all the while during lecture time? If yes, then is not something about the brain problem. It could be your lifestyle problem i.e always sleep late causing the problem of yr liver to do the process of detoxification, or lack of sufficient nutrients in order for your body cells to function properly. You may check if your have yellowish eyes (i mean the white part). My brother used to be in this case and after fren's recommendation on the quality supplements, he is now changed better rclxm9.gif


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QUOTE(faezfahmi618 @ Apr 6 2012, 04:48 AM)
hi guys
i wanna ask which supplements is good to improve my memory and can make me more focuse when i study or in the class?
i dont know why my memory is so suck which is to hard to memorize a simple note and also i cant concentrate when my lectrurer is teaching which at the last make me hard to understand what they're teaching..and as usually i always asking the lecturer when im not understand but i must ask the lecturer at least 5 times to make me understand which it make me look stupid in front of my friends  cry.gif
i heard this product is quite good
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Hi, u can try Memo Plus Gold. I've consumed it for 2 months and now I become more focus and easy to memorize. Before this, I can't focus or hard to understand when my boss give an instruction or teach me anything.

If u're interested u can contact this person : Hisham - 012.3727.969
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post Apr 9 2012, 03:32 PM

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Don;t forget fish oil high in DHA

Abstract
Docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) is essential for the growth and functional development of the brain in infants. DHA is also required for maintenance of normal brain function in adults. The inclusion of plentiful DHA in the diet improves learning ability, whereas deficiencies of DHA are associated with deficits in learning. DHA is taken up by the brain in preference to other fatty acids. The turnover of DHA in the brain is very fast, more so than is generally realized. The visual acuity of healthy, full-term, formula-fed infants is increased when their formula includes DHA. During the last 50 years, many infants have been fed formula diets lacking DHA and other omega-3 fatty acids. DHA deficiencies are associated with foetal alcohol syndrome, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, cystic fibrosis, phenylketonuria, unipolar depression, aggressive hostility, and adrenoleukodystrophy. Decreases in DHA in the brain are associated with cognitive decline during aging and with onset of sporadic Alzheimer disease. The leading cause of death in western nations is cardiovascular disease. Epidemiological studies have shown a strong correlation between fish consumption and reduction in sudden death from myocardial infarction. The reduction is approximately 50% with 200 mg day(-1)of DHA from fish. DHA is the active component in fish. Not only does fish oil reduce triglycerides in the blood and decrease thrombosis, but it also prevents cardiac arrhythmias. The association of DHA deficiency with depression is the reason for the robust positive correlation between depression and myocardial infarction. Patients with cardiovascular disease or Type II diabetes are often advised to adopt a low-fat diet with a high proportion of carbohydrate. A study with women shows that this type of diet increases plasma triglycerides and the severity of Type II diabetes and coronary heart disease. DHA is present in fatty fish (salmon, tuna, mackerel) and mother's milk. DHA is present at low levels in meat and eggs, but is not usually present in infant formulas. EPA, another long-chain n-3 fatty acid, is also present in fatty fish. The shorter chain n-3 fatty acid, alpha-linolenic acid, is not converted very well to DHA in man. These longchain n-3 fatty acids (also known as omega-3 fatty acids) are now becoming available in some foods, especially infant formula and eggs in Europe and Japan. Fish oil decreases the proliferation of tumour cells, whereas arachidonic acid, a longchain n-6 fatty acid, increases their proliferation. These opposite effects are also seen with inflammation, particularly with rheumatoid arthritis, and with asthma. DHA has a positive effect on diseases such as hypertension, arthritis, atherosclerosis, depression, adult-onset diabetes mellitus, myocardial infarction, thrombosis, and some cancers.
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Are those supplements safe in the long run? I mean will our brain get too used to that until when we stop eating those, its condition will be worse than it previously was? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Apr 9 2012, 11:36 PM)
Are those supplements safe in the long run? I mean will our brain get too used to that until when we stop eating those, its condition will be worse than it previously was? icon_question.gif
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yeah same with me i also scared if using this supplement can make me depending on that supplement


Added on April 10, 2012, 4:33 am
QUOTE(iela7382 @ Apr 9 2012, 02:38 PM)
Hi, u can try Memo Plus Gold. I've consumed it for 2 months and now I become more focus and easy to memorize. Before this, I can't focus or hard to understand when my boss give an instruction or teach me anything.

If u're interested u can contact this person : Hisham - 012.3727.969
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ohh i must contact him to buy that supplement?
he's not selling it at garage sales? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(tchtax @ Apr 9 2012, 03:32 PM)
Don;t forget fish oil high in DHA
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This, and also don't forget real fish brows.gif
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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Apr 10 2012, 08:22 AM)
This, and also don't forget real fish  brows.gif
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how for student age 11 and 12 can take
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QUOTE(jxjm63 @ Apr 10 2012, 05:04 PM)
how for student age 11 and 12 can take
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your mum doesn't cook fish once in a while? just be sure to have a balanced diet
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Hi all,
I am new here.
Read the thread with lots of interest and i believe many of them have a pronounce effect to ones.

Anyway, just like to share something i am experiencing. Have you heard of Laminine before ? There are testimonials that it even reverse the effect of Alzheimer and Parkinson. Also makes you feel alert and focus. It all got to do with the amino acids and protein in your body. Have a look at this site http://ifv8.com/zul/1

TQ

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post Apr 11 2012, 01:48 AM

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post Apr 11 2012, 03:28 AM

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QUOTE(faezfahmi618 @ Apr 10 2012, 01:32 AM)
yeah same with me i also scared if using this supplement can make me depending on that supplement

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Why do you start this thread and ask this question if you are so afraid ?

If you have so much fear, then the best is to play safe and not
take anything at all.

Apart from the racetams, and the choline-based nootropics
aggravating gastric ulcers, you can go ahead and try them.
They are just supplements.

Many life extensionists take "smart" DRUGS as nootropics,
including me. If you go to the Immortality Institute's supplements
and nootropics subforums (and I urge you to join in if you want
to learn more about nootropics), you will come across many of them
taking modafinil, aniracetam, pramiracetam, oxiracetam, piracetam,
CDP choline, alpha GPC, DMAE, Huperzine A, vinpocetine,
selegiline (Parkinson's drug) and even donepezil (Alzheimer's drug).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modafinil


Indeed, they take them as "stacks", i.e. combined together as a regimen.
You will also find these "stackers" in nootropic forums all over the world.

Those guys in the Brainmeta forum are particularly hard-core stackers.


http://www.longecity.org/forum/forum/412-nootropic-stacks/

http://brainmeta.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=22550

http://www.mindnutrition.com/nootropic-guide-stacks.html

http://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comment...god_mode_stack/

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.p...42207791&page=1



I am far more conservative (and also have a far smaller wallet), but
have taken at one time or another these drugs and supplements -

Piracetam
Hydergine
Selegiline
ALCAR
ALA
Jarrow's CarnitALL (bought for my father, but now on my office table
because I cannot get it past my elder brother, who has never heard
of life extension, to my father in the nursing home ) -
comprising ALCAR, ALCA, l-carnitine fumarate, ALCAR taurinate, GPLC.

http://www.jarrow.com/product.php?prodid=190


CDP choline is classified as a drug in Europe for strokes.
It is now found all over health food stores in the States.
It is the first one I would bring in for my post-stroke demented
91-year old father in the nursing home, if I had a free hand.

http://www.jarrow.com/product.php?prodid=288


My father has managed to make it to this age because at one time or
another years ago, before he was institutionalized and when he lived
with me, I was pumping him on the following :

Basic multivitamin/mineral
ALCAR
ALA
Hydergine
Piracetam
Hijuven (vitamin E nicotinate)
APG lysine (growth hormone releaser)
Cod liver oil
Hawthorn extract
Coenzyme Q10
Ribose
Magnesium malate
Grape seed extract








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Last time, I took Ginko. Fast reaction for alertness in class. But now only take Fish Oil. Seems. Ginko not suit for me afterall smile.gif
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QUOTE(faezfahmi618 @ Apr 6 2012, 04:48 AM)
hi guys
i wanna ask which supplements is good to improve my memory and can make me more focuse when i study or in the class?
i dont know why my memory is so suck which is to hard to memorize a simple note and also i cant concentrate when my lectrurer is teaching which at the last make me hard to understand what they're teaching..and as usually i always asking the lecturer when im not understand but i must ask the lecturer at least 5 times to make me understand which it make me look stupid in front of my friends  cry.gif
i heard this product is quite good
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Highly recommend Nutrilite Double X, sure you can benefit from this as it really helps to energise your body. smile.gif
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QUOTE(demolationz @ Apr 11 2012, 05:46 AM)
Last time, I took Ginko. Fast reaction for alertness in class. But now only take Fish Oil. Seems. Ginko not suit for me afterall smile.gif
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why you got side effect..? please explain
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u may try ginkgo ( blackmore ) <= brand
it helps you on brain memory .
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hi all, my sister asked me to try gingko, and i got Blackmore. I really hate the smell and flavour...
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try one with ginkgo...most of the supplements for brain works by improving blood circulation to brain which help improve memory...
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QUOTE(faezfahmi618 @ Apr 6 2012, 04:48 AM)
hi guys
i wanna ask which supplements is good to improve my memory and can make me more focuse when i study or in the class?
i dont know why my memory is so suck which is to hard to memorize a simple note and also i cant concentrate when my lectrurer is teaching which at the last make me hard to understand what they're teaching..and as usually i always asking the lecturer when im not understand but i must ask the lecturer at least 5 times to make me understand which it make me look stupid in front of my friends  cry.gif
i heard this product is quite good
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hey, u may click this link n look into it. My family and I have been taking for 2 years and i strongly recommend this supplement smile.gif. Hope it may suit you too...

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Smile-Usana/...pp_138996027389

Then, it is categorised under 'Nutritionals'
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QUOTE(faezfahmi618 @ Apr 6 2012, 04:48 AM)
hi guys
i wanna ask which supplements is good to improve my memory and can make me more focuse when i study or in the class?
i dont know why my memory is so suck which is to hard to memorize a simple note and also i cant concentrate when my lectrurer is teaching which at the last make me hard to understand what they're teaching..and as usually i always asking the lecturer when im not understand but i must ask the lecturer at least 5 times to make me understand which it make me look stupid in front of my friends  cry.gif
i heard this product is quite good
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caffeine.
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QUOTE(micksolo @ Apr 18 2012, 10:28 AM)
caffeine.
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what do u mean by caffeine? rclxub.gif
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what do u mean by caffeine? rclxub.gif
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caffeine improves the sharpness of the mind, making you more alert. Plenty of scientific studies done on it.
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Hi, long story short, what supplements or food do u recommend for someone suspected of having mild Alzheimer's (around 75 yr old)?
Based on what u wrote, are u a doctor or some healthcare professional?

Thanks
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For a start :

1. Go to your friendly pharmacy and buy this :

http://www.livewell2u.com/products.php?p=memosential


2. Add coriander and blueberries to his diet. Lemon balm as well.

3. Extract the blue colour from Clitoria ternatea (the Butterfly pea or bunga telang),
and color or dye his rice and porridge with it as often as you can. I'm not sure where
you can buy the flowers in bulk, but the Kelantanese Malays should know.


I'm a life extensionist. If you wish to ask a doctor, there are a few on this board.

The treatment of Alzheimer's is confined to a handful of drugs, if you take
your patient to see a doctor :

1. Tacrine, prototype anticholinesterase. Apparently discontinued.

2. Donepezil (Aricept), first generation anticholinesterase. Costs a bomb,
some $14 for a 10 mg tab. Blocks acetylcholinesterase.

3. Rivastigmine (Exelon), developed from physostigmine.

Blocks both acetylcholinesterase and butyrylcholinesterase. The transdermal patch
costs some $20 each, or at least that was what Sunway Medical Center
charged my brother and sister when they took him there to see some
vaunted geriatrician. It was useless. ( " Oh, your father has Alzheimer's . "
was what I heard he exclaimed, on merely observing him, as any Tom,
d*** and Harry could have said. Nonsense. If he had bothered to find out
my father's stroke background a year or so before that, common sense would
have told him that my father has vascular dementia. )

4. Memantine, NMDA antagonist, also blocks 5HT3 and nicotinic receptors.
Probably your drug of choice if you wish to start him on one. Note that it has
its limitations.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/...20502184706.htm

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%...al.pone.0035185



Check out this thread if you wish to know more about the countless
supplements, herbs and other drugs which can help dementia.

http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/23093...imers-research/


As it is, I am unable to help my father as my elder brother, and secondly the
nursing home environment, has totally taken things out of my hands.









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Thanks for the reply bro.

I read that u recommend other supps too. Just wanna know how does jarrow's neuro optimizer compare with memosential?
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Far better of course.

I had tbought that you, like most others here, were not into ordering
from health food stores, and just wanted to buy whatever you could
find in the local drugstores here.

The fact that you know about Jarrow's Neuro Optimizer indicates that
you have good knowledge of cutting edge supplements.

CDP choline was what I had wanted to get for my father right after his
stroke, but was barred from doing so by my elder brother, who thinks that
supplements are nonsense, has never heard of life extension, and can't
believe that supplements can possibly treat diseases, particularly a highly
complex degenerative one like Alzheimer's which even higlhy trained
"geriatricians" can't do anything about, let alone extend lifespan.

(He's never even heard of homeopathy.)

I can't even get a simple low-potency basic multivit across to my father.

Memosential is probably the best you can do here if you don't get anything
from the States or Europe. Combine it with Co Q10.

Go ahead and get him Jarrow's fast.

Another highly rated supp for the brain is Alpha GPC, but CDP choline has
been given for strokes as a drug in Europe before it became available as a
supp in the States.



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I'll try n get it ASAP then. And I used to take Q10 too and it helped in my running endurance, didn't know it's good for the brain also.

Quite a shame tbh since ur family's being so stubborn on supps

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Coenzyme Q10 Decreases Amyloid Pathology and Improves Behavior in a
Transgenic Mouse Model of Alzheimer’s Disease.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3267988



Coenzyme Q10 in neuromuscular and neurodegenerative disorders.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20017723



Anti-aging Studies on the Senescence Accelerated Mouse (SAM) Strains.

" All SAMP lines (from SAMP1 to SAMP11) are characterized by accelerated
accumulation of senile features, earlier onset and faster progress of age-associated
pathological phenotypes, such as amyloidosis, impaired immune response, senile
osteoporosis and deficits in learning and memory. These SAMP lines are useful for
evaluation of putative anti-aging therapies. For example, SAMP1 line is used to study
the anti-aging effect of the antioxidant containing foods and various anti-oxidants,
such as coenzyme Q10, vitamin C, lycopene. SAMP8 line exhibiting an early onset
of impaired learning and memory is often used for test strategies for therapeutic
intervention of dementia of early onset. "

https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/yakush...0_1_11/_article



Coenzyme Q10 effects in neurodegenerative disease.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P...f/ndt-5-597.pdf



Rational basis for the development of coenzyme Q10 as a neurotherapeutic
agent for retinal protection.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18929135



Alzheimer's disease: the pros and cons of pharmaceutical, nutritional, botanical,
and stimulatory therapies, with a discussion of treatment strategies from the
perspective of patients and practitioners.

http://www.altmedrev.com/publications/15/3/223.pdf


Non-cholinergic strategies for treating and preventing Alzheimer's disease.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12421115



Lipoic acid as an anti-inflammatory and neuroprotective treatment
for Alzheimer's disease.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18655815




The molecular basis of memantine action in Alzheimer's disease and other
neurologic disorders: low-affinity, uncompetitive antagonism.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15974...6409164/related


Dementia of Alzheimer's disease and other neurodegenerative
disorders -- memantine, a new hope.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15519530






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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVmghfnOcP0



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citicoline



Citicoline in vascular cognitive impairment and vascular dementia after stroke.

http://stroke.ahajournals.org/content/42/1_suppl_1/S40.long



Neuroprotective effects of citidine-5-diphosphocholine on impaired spatial memory
in a rat model of cerebrovascular dementia.

https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jphs/1...16_11013FP/_pdf



Retrospective and observational study to assess the efficacy of citicoline in
elderly patients suffering from stupor related to complex geriatric syndrome.


" It has been shown that, even soon after an ischemic stroke, administration of oral
citicoline (500-4000 mg/day) improves the general conditions evaluated with the
Rankin scale and the National Institute of Health Stroke Scale 12. In particular, it
has been shown that the CDP-choline improves the cognitive and mental
performance in Alzheimer's dementia and vascular dementia. "

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmid/22654511



Oral administration of circulating precursors for membrane phosphatides
can promote the synthesis of new brain synapses.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmid/18631994



Citicoline, use in cognitive decline: vascular and degenerative.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20875651



Citicoline enhances frontal lobe bioenergetics as measured by phosphorus
magnetic resonance spectroscopy.

" These treatment-related alterations in phosphorus metabolites were not only
regionally specific, but tended to be of greater magnitude in subjects who
received the lower dose
.

Citicoline supplementation may therefore help to mitigate cognitive declines associated
with aging by increasing energy reserves and utilization, as well as increasing the
amount of essential phospholipid membrane components needed to synthesize and
maintain cell membranes. "


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18816480

http://www.cognizin.com/article-brain-imaging-study.html




" Supplement naturally boosts ageing brain power "

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/02/24/1203788130776.html






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you can try Memo Plus Gold.. they sell it in pharmacies also and recently a lot of advertisement in newspaper about this..

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So basically, jarrow's neuro optimizer has about everything that you've listed here right?

And btw, do u know why the doctor prescribed these 3 meds to someone with an irregular ECG rhythm (Xanax 0.5mg, Luvox 50mg, Cordarone 200mg). The doc also mentioned that its nothing to worry about. My grandpa will visit the specialist again this Monday for further check-up.
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I thought you were familiar with Neuro Optimizer and had checked out
its components ?

If you look at the contents carefully, you wil find that CDP choline, or citicholine,
phosphatidylserine (PS), acetyl l-carnitine (ALCAR), alpha lipoic acid (ALA),
taurine, phosphatidylcholine (PC) and glutamine are there.

Memosential contains ALCAR and PS.

The one lacking is coenzyme Q-10.

You did not say earlier that your father has arrhythmias. I do not know how co Q10
will interact with amiodarone (Cordarone). This is because co Q10 has both positive
inotropic (makes the heart beat more forcefully) properties.

Anyway, it should be safe to give him a low dose of co Q10. Note that the Q-Gel
in the Livewell product is liposome-bound, and 3 times more potent than ordinary co Q10.
Thus 15 mg = 45 mg. Try giving him the lowest, 15 mg, say every alternate day for
a start.


Dharma Singh Khalsa, who runs an Alzheimer's treatment center in Tucson,
sent me an info pack some 15 years ago. He uses ALCAR, PS and co Q10,
among others.

http://www.alzheimersprevention.org/dr_dharma.htm


Added on July 28, 2012, 7:31 am



Put him on some magnesium, which supports both his heart and Alzheimer's.

Good ones are magnesium orotate, taurate or glycinate.


http://www.evitamins.com/magnesium-orotate-200mg-kal-895

http://www.iherb.com/Cardiovascular-Resear...-Capsules/23527

http://www.iherb.com/Magnesium-Glycinate-4...ggie-Caps/21315



Note that magnesium interacts with amiloride (Moduretic) and should not be taken
if your father is on it.

http://mdheal.org/articles/word2/drugsuppl....htm#_ednref111



Magnesium depletion and pathogenesis of Alzheimer's disease.

http://www.mgwater.com/dur16.shtml


Mechanisms of Action on the Nervous System in Magnesium Deficiency and Dementia.

http://www.mgwater.com/dur30.shtml









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I did, just trying to reconfirm the ingredients again.

He's already taking this Q10 (100mg)
http://healthmedica.ca/services/nutritiona...ed-coenzyme-q10
And this too
http://marketamerica.com/product-2217/isotonix-opc3.htm

Used to take this too
http://www.shop.com/Isotonix+reg+Calcium+P...800352-p+.xhtml

Also, do u know of any supps that can greatly ease sleeping difficulties? Sometimes, he'll sleep only 4 hours on the 2nd night if he didn't sleep on the 1st night. The xanax & luvox aren't really helping now, he used to take zopiclone last time to sleep but the doc only gave 4 and it's not so good to depend on sleeping pills la.

Thanks.

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GHB, the so-called "date rape drug" against Alzheimer's.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-Hydroxybutyric_acid

http://www.life-enhancement.com/article.aspx?ID=76




Sporadic Alzheimer's Disease: The Starving Brain.

" A reduction in cerebral glucose utilization is one of the earliest signs of
Alzheimer's disease.
Although the exact cause of this reduction is not known,
gathering evidence suggests that it is part of a complex metabolic adaptation to
oxidative stress during which glycolysis and oxidative phosphorylation are turned
down, glucose metabolism is shifted to the pentose phosphate pathway
to generate antioxidant reducing factors such as nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide
phosphate (NADPH) and glutathione, and the gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA)
shunt is activated to provide glutamate as an alternate source of energy.

In the face of these adaptive metabolic changes, the Alzheimer brain runs short
of energy and begins to digest itself.


Evidence is presented that gammahydroxybutyrate, a natural product of the GABA
shunt, can provide the necessary energy, carbon, and antioxidant power and that
its use may be able to delay the onset and progress of Alzheimer's disease. "


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22571985



Alzheimer' s disease, oxidative stress and gammahydroxybutyrate.

http://www.ncbi.nlm..../pubmed/1683710


Neurodegeneration, sleep, and cerebral energy metabolism: a testable hypothesis.

http://www.ncbi.nlm..../pubmed/9100156






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Melatonin comes immediately to mind.


Some of these sleep formulas has melatonin, magnestium, L-theanine
and lemon balm, all ol which help Alzheimer's.


http://www.iherb.com/Search?kw=MELATONIN+M...ALERIAN&x=0&y=0


This looks good.

http://www.iherb.com/Irwin-Naturals-Power-...-Soft-Gels/8068




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My late mum used to pick lemon balm leaves from our garden during my
childhood days to steam with egg yolk as a remedy for cough.

I never realized this lowly common plant was so versatile.

You will find time and again, members of the mint family being studied for
their potent therapeutic properties, such as rosemary, oregano, sage, basil,
lavender and thyme.


You are very lucky to get the full text of this study. Nature magazine normally
does not allow free access to most of their publications.


" These results suggest that doses of Melissa officinalis at or above the maximum
employed here can improve cognitive performance and mood and may therefore
be a valuable adjunct in the treatment of Alzheimer's disease.

http://www.nature.com/npp/journal/v28/n10/full/1300230a.html "



Lemon balm -- Melissa officinalis; also known as lemon balm, bee balm,
garden balm, Melissa, melissengeist.

http://www.rnzcgp.org.nz/assets/documents/...sonJune2011.pdf



Modulation of mood and cognitive performance following acute
administration of Melissa officinalis (lemon balm).

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12062586



Medicinal plants and dementia therapy: herbal hopes for brain aging ?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22070157



Effect of plant extracts on Alzheimer's disease: An insight into therapeutic avenues

http://www.ruralneuropractice.com/article....;aulast=Obulesu



The role of phytochemicals in the treatment and prevention of dementia.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21639405/



The psychopharmacology of European herbs with cognition-enhancing properties.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17168769


Salvia lavandulaefolia is Spanish sage, which has a minimal content of the
toxic essential oil, thujones, found in common sage, Salvia officinalis.




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Thanks again. I added the free melatonin tablets into my order list.

Just not sure where to find the lemon balm leaves, never seen before even though I used to work in the kitchen sleep.gif and Spanish sage too.

And where can I get GHB? I read from ur links that they're present in salts too? Good for insomnia & Alzheimer's too huh?

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How can you not have seen lemon balm before ? It is such a common plant.

I've seen it since I was a few years old. There was even a pot or two
in this Golden Age Nursing Home in Jalan SS3/39 where my father
stayed in a couple of years ago.

The leaves are maybe two inches long, thick and embossed, somewhat furry.


http://herba.herbal.my/?p=553


Melissa is also a virus fighter, including herpes and HIV.

Aqueous extracts from peppermint, sage and lemon balm leaves display potent anti-HIV-1 activity by increasing the virion density.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2288616


If you look again at this product, the inclusion of melissa extract was
why I selected it.

http://www.iherb.com/Irwin-Naturals-Power-...-Soft-Gels/8068



Lemon balm, raw.

http://www.iherb.com/Planetary-Herbals-Lem...-Capsules/40749

http://www.iherb.com/Oregon-s-Wild-Harvest...ggie-Caps/42968


Just Life organic shop, one of which is along Jln SS2/24, has lemon balm tea.

http://shop.justlifeshop.com/ProductDetail...de=780746058137













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Lol maybe I wasn't paying attention on those herbs before.

I'll drop by that organic shop la since its quite near my place, thanks for the heads up.
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The old thiamine (vitamin B1) derivative, sulbutiamine, which you can
buy as Arcalion in most drugstores, has some benefit in dementia, especially
when combined with a standard anticholinesterase drug like donepezil.

So if your father is already on Aricept, adding in Aracalion helps him
with episodic memory and attention.

By itself, Arcalion helps with attention, so no harm in giving him say one
200 mg tablet every other day or so.


Sulbutiamine can cause headache in some people, including my father,
when I gave him some years ago, before his dementia.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17675917/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulbutiamine








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I think I mentioned somewhere before that it's my grandpa, not my father that we're talking about.

http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/health-topics/topics/af/

One more concern for us is how he's managed to get Atrial Fibrillation. He's quite fit I would say for a 70+ yr old. Doesn't smoke/drink, goes for daily walks, has normal blood test results, normal HR & BP levels.
Yet the article above says AR patients have a HR of more than 100/min while my grandpa has only 70+/min.

Do u have any ideas on this?
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" Some older people have slow transmission through the AV node due to disease
within the AV node. When these people develop atrial fibrillation, their heart rates
remain normal or slower than normal. As disease in the AV node advances, these
people can even develop an excessively slow heart rate and require a permanent
pacemaker to increase the rate of ventricular contractions. "

http://www.medicinenet.com/atrial_fibrillation/article.htm


Added on August 3, 2012, 1:02 am


Magnesium is the first mineral you should think of in arrhythmias.

Just another reason to take magnesium for your grandpa, which as
given earlier will help his Alzheimer's as well.

The forms which come to mind would be :

Magnesium taurate
Magnesium orotate

Since taurine helps both his heart and his brain, magnesium taurate is
a good one.

The late and highly respected Dr Hans Nieper advocates magnesium orotate
exclusively for heart diseases.

Eastern European doctors know the value of magnesium orotate.


Magnesium orotate in severe congestive heart failure (MACH).

" After mean treatment duration of 1 year, the survival rate was 75.7% compared to
51.6% under placebo. Clinical symptoms improved in 38.5% of patients under
magnesium orotate, whereas they deteriorated in 56.3% of patients under placebo. "

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19367681



Magnesium orotate in myocardial and neuronal protection.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15523949


Response of the senescent heart to stress: clinical therapeutic strategies
and quest for mitochondrial predictors of biological age.

" We recently have devised a regimen of therapy to protect the senescent heart
against stress, combining metabolic therapy (coenzyme Q(10), alpha lipoic acid,
magnesium orotate, and omega 3 polyunsaturated fatty acids) with physical
exercise and mental stress reduction. "

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15246998/


" An Atrial Fibrillation Cause That You Haven't Been Told "

http://www.easy-immune-health.com/atrial-f...tion-cause.html


"Anyone in A-Fib is almost certainly magnesium deficient."

http://www.a-fib.com/Treatments.htm



" I am 72 years young and have had A-fib for about a year. It wasn't until I
started taking magnesum, potassium and taruine that I stopped having
A-fib attacks and flutters. "

http://www.dailystrength.org/c/Atrial_Fibr...404-supplements


Twinlab's Cellmins would be a good choice for the guy above.

Twinlab claims their aspartate HCL salts outperform the orotates and aspartates.

http://www.hollyhillhealth.com/shop/produc...ivate_product=0


Now and Jarrow.

http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Magnesium-P...20-Capsules/701

http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Magne...olv-Tablets/261


The acetyl l-carnitine in Jarrow's which you are going to get him
will support his heart as well. However, the more active form of
carnitine for the heart is propionyl l-carnitine.

http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formulas-GPLC-...-Caps/3305?at=0

http://tsangenterprise.com/news71.htm


This is likely taken from one of LEF's older protocols for arrhythmias.

http://www.preparemd.com/conditions/protoc...l-fibrillation/










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Thanks again for all the very informative links.

He's already taking these every morning already,

http://www.marketamerica.com/product-2223/...alcium-plus.htm
http://www.marketamerica.com/sku-13057/iso...ed-bcomplex.htm
http://www.marketamerica.com/sku-13009/isotonix-opc3.htm

http://www.livestrong.com/article/286761-m...otate-benefits/
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IMPROVED SLEEP
Many people will fail to get the deep sleep they require without sufficient magnesium. Charles Poliquin, the Canadian strength coach who has worked with a range of Olympic medal-winning athletes, explains that the mineral provides an inhibitory action on the release of catecholamine hormones such as adrenaline. When magnesium status falls short, these hormones may overstimulate activity in the central nervous system and stand between you and a restful night's sleep. The Poliquin Institute rate magnesium orotate highly, and believe it brings down levels of stress hormones more effectively than other forms of the mineral.`

We went to pantai hospital for a 2nd opinion today, the cardiologist said his a-fib is nothing to worry about after doing the stress test but he hinted that the 'pradaxa' given by the previous specialist should not be taken as its quite 'controversial'. I googled 'pradaxa' and found quite a lot of cases like hemorrhage and gastro bleeding.
Don't know if it should be stopped but warfarin isn't a better choice neither.


Added on August 4, 2012, 2:10 pmBtw is this lemon balm? Found it outside my grandparents house, didn't know they're growing it all this while lol

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So how should it be prepared? Just mash it up and boil with water? They said its usually used for cough only

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I take Ginkgo Biloba because I read that it's good for mental strength, e.g. memory.
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Firstly, there's a contraindication here.

Lemon balm should not be taken if your grandpa has glaucoma,
increase intraocular pressure.

" Lemon grass should not be taken by patients with
glaucoma, as it increases eye pressure. "

http://www.ellenskitchen.com/garden/lemonbalm.html

http://www.livestrong.com/article/98379-si...cts-lemon-balm/


Secondly, why didn't you search for some tea or other recipes ?



http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Lemon-Balm-Tea

http://www.ehow.com/how_4468711_lemon-balm-tea.html

http://www.cooksgarden.com/vegetables/cucu...ticle10100.html

http://www.cooks.com/rec/search/0,1-0,lemon_balm,FF.html

http://www.herbsociety.org/factsheets/Lemo...alm%20Guide.pdf

http://kingshillfarm.com/wp-content/upload...oup-A-Box-4.pdf



Thirdly, sometimes I wonder if you read any of the studies I posted.
Yes, as I mentioned earlier too, about my late mum preparing an egg stew
with lemon balm whenever I had a cough, that is one of the folk cures for this
condition.

But sure the studies would be very clear to tell you that this plant had other
powerful qualities that our old timers did not know about ?

We should respect the folk remedies that our parents and grandparents knew
about from their ancestors, of course, but later scientist found out properties
that the same herb had on other diseases.

If you don't have time to, or understand, the whole study, then read the title,
the introduction or abstract, then the results, and finally the conclusion. That's
what I do sometimes too.


In the meantime, I am having my hands full with another "demented" relative
whom I live with. Or more of a lunatic, rather. You can read it here :

http://www.pjnet.my/Disabled-Kids-Home-Nee...87669#pid387669


From the address I gave in the above post, you would be living not far from me,
since you mentioned that you live not far from the Just Life organic shop, which
means you are at SS2.

It is likely you've passed by my house before, since that narrow road is now used
as a short-cut transit between SS1 and SS3 by main traffic (lots of complaints by
the residents here).

He's just repainted the house a light cream, though. So it's no longer an eyesore yellow.


You could always drop by too, but then I am not at home most of the day, and
night as well (typing this from my office), as nobody wants to be around a person
who I am convinced suffers from overlapping schizoid, paranoid and narcissistic
personality disorders.

Your grandpa may be demented, but I am sure he doesn't behave the way
this sicko does. I am sure your grandpa is more of a joy to be around with,
if you stay with him, that is.

In fact, I'll become demented myself before long if I tolerate this any longer !

I've really had lost my patience with this guy, so am uploading this just to get
a little load of my back, and mind as well.

You may take a look at some of the "notices" and "orders" which he has stuck
on the front of my door over the months and years. I'm sure you or the others
here have never come across something like this before in your entire lives.

My apologies to the moderators if these uploads are out of order, you may
remove them if you wish.







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He has cataract, and the article mentioned lemon grass, not lemon balm, so it shouldn't be a prob right.

I read all the links the you've given to me, I just thought that there might be a special way of preparing the lemon balm, I'll just ask my grandma to boil it with water before mixing with honey.

Actually, we're not too sure if he's just getting forgetful or what, or he's just worrying too much about petty things. We brought him to a few specialists already and they said he might be having some depression, so not sure if it's dementia or not. He still drives around to the market to buy stuff, fixes the lights/plumbing or anything that's gone wrong in the house, just last few months ago, he's managed to climb over the wall from the back of the house coz my grandma accidentally locked the door.

Btw I stay at ss23, so its quite near to ss2. And regarding ur case lol, ur brother sounds ridiculous/retarded with all these notes n orders, why not just sell the house, get back ur share and leave.
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With all those mild symptoms you described, he seems pretty much normal.
Why did you think he has Alzheimer's ?

An Alzheimer's patient has much more severe symptoms. It's like trying to
communicate with and take care of a zombie, particularly in the late or advanced
stages.

They will repeat things over and over again, because their hippocampus, which
houses short term memories, has been damaged permanently. Their brains have
shrunk, and the neurons have all become tangled up into one hard mess, coated
with amyloid plaques.

Give him a good multivit for a start, like Livewell's DailySential 45+.


Regarding my brother's case - would you sell your share to him if he despised
and treated you like come worthless stray dog or concentration camp inmate ?

Would you sell your car to some scum who threatened to smash your windscreen
if you did not do so ?



I'm sure that you and me, and the other sane human beings here, have pride or
at least some self-respect. If you read the link I gave you again, he virtually tried
to starve me into submission, by locking me out of the kitchen, disposing of my
fridge not caring less about my knowledge or consent, and then barring me from
keeping even a jar of jam there for some bread after I had come home from a week's
stay at Tung Shin Hospital for a dangerous pleural effusion caused by a bacterial
infection - half my right lung was filled with fluid.

On consulting Richard Yong, the famous clairvoyant in SS2, as to what the hell
was wrong with this guy, he disclosed -

" Serious mental disorders."

" He's crazy. A SADIST. "

" Nobody in Western Digital (where he works) likes him."


How he managed to rise to the level of Principal Engineer (virtually a manager,
$15,000 a month with substantial shareholding rights) in Western Digital is beyond me.


Partly my own folly, when nearly two decades ago, struggling to get thru the third
year of his engineering degree at the University of Tasmania with failures in no less
than three subects (multiple failures in Computer Systems), I wrote several appeal
letters to his Dean and Head of Department pleading for clemency.








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My family is suspecting that it might be happening sooner or later since, like what you've mentioned, he's starting to repeat questions once a while on, for example what supplements & when he should be eating it, getting worried easily, his hands sometimes shake a little, and his facial expression sometimes looks quite tired, especially the eyes. He said he doesn't even have the mood to read the newspapers anymore. He also walks a little slower lately and sometimes we need to repeat ourselves if he couldn't hear/get it the first time

So I'm basically tyring to prepare myself on some knowledge about brain health. And my jarrows & melatonin should be arriving soon.

He's taking usana's multivit & mineral too, but only once a day.

Well, I'm not too sure with all this family feuds, I'm sure u have ur ways of keeping up with it since it's been like this for quite some time already. And I'm curious about ur job, what do u work as since you post between 2-6am most of the time. smile.gif

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Melatonin Antioxidative Defense: Therapeutical Implications for Aging and Neurodegenerative Processes.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22739839


Added on August 11, 2012, 3:45 am



Chyawanprash.

Antiamnesic activity of an ayurvedic formulation chyawanprash in mice.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3137779



Beneficial effect of chyawanprash on cognitive function in aged mice.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20738179


Effect of Sonachandi Chyawanprash and Chyawanprash Plus--two herbal
formulations on immunomodulation.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16295744



"Sona Chandi Chyawanprash"


http://www.emamigroup.com/Sonachandi-Chyawanprash


I took this over a decade ago.

http://www.zanduayurveda.com/products/27/z...esari-jivan.php











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This is a very good website on the brain.

You can select beginner, intermediate or advanced learning,
as well as the level of organization.

I think it is under McGill University.


Short and long term memories.

http://thebrain.mcgill.ca/flash/i/i_07/i_0..._07_cr_tra.html



Alzheimer's.

http://thebrain.mcgill.ca/flash/i/i_08/i_0..._08_cr_alz.html





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omega diet...omega3 to omega6 ratio of 1:4 is for dementia treatment.. please do note that inceasing omega3 however is useless if you dont reduce the abundant omega 6 in our daily "normal healthy" diet
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If you go natural, fish. Cut down on meat and eat lots of fish. Also nuts, nuts are brain food. But not peanuts, almonds are good. Almonds and raisins and dates with milk. Haven't tried ginko but so many people swear on it. Something I have to try. Stay sharp wink.gif
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QUOTE(Madge @ Aug 12 2012, 12:37 PM)
If you go natural, fish. Cut down on meat and eat lots of fish. Also nuts, nuts are brain food. But not peanuts, almonds are good. Almonds and raisins and dates with milk. Haven't tried ginko but so many people swear on it. Something I have to try. Stay sharp wink.gif
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yes go for salmon/any sea fish, almonds are good but still contain more omega 6..walnuts are the best high in omega 3 ..flaxseed also high in omega 3 saw one lyn forumer sell flaxseed forgot his id
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The local Azheimer's Disease Foundation is giving a talk by a neurologist
on vascular dementia at its premises in PJ this Saturday at 2 pm.

http://adfmmalaysia.blogspot.com/2013/09/s...k-vascular.html



Vascular dementia, also called multi-infarct dementia, is different from normal
Alzheimer's in that it tends to occur in the elderly a year or two after a stroke.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vascular_dementia



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I heard from the radio ads, they say Brands Chicken Essence is the best? Some even drink this in college before exam laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Cattitude @ Oct 7 2013, 11:30 AM)
I heard from the radio ads, they say Brands Chicken Essence is the best? Some even drink this in college before exam laugh.gif
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thats bullshit , no offence to anyone.
I drank that the night before my SPM History Exam to study, end up i doze off after 5 mins.

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QUOTE(Azurika @ Oct 7 2013, 03:11 PM)
thats bullshit , no offence to anyone.
I drank that the night before my SPM History Exam to study, end up i doze off after 5 mins.
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Wah so pitiful seems so... Why is it happened? Is it you sit for the exam, and you take the essence first time? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(Azurika @ Oct 7 2013, 07:11 AM)
thats bullshit , no offence to anyone.
I drank that the night before my SPM History Exam to study, end up i doze off after 5 mins.
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That was what happened to me too, way back in 1974, the night before
the Maths paper in the MCE exam.

Worse, it caused diarrhea the next day, and I had to run to the toilet several
times before the paper. That was a day to remember for life.

That stupid product nearly caused me to fail that subject. I've never touched
it again ever since.
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QUOTE(Cattitude @ Oct 7 2013, 03:19 PM)
Wah so pitiful seems so... Why is it happened? Is it you sit for the exam, and you take the essence first time?  unsure.gif
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Is not the first time Im consuming it, my parents used to buy that during my major exams ... but i dont see much effects on it ... maybe for others there is la, but definately not for me. Im on other supplements which i felt the effect at least

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QUOTE(Azurika @ Oct 10 2013, 02:19 PM)
Is not the first time Im consuming it, my parents used to buy that during my major exams ... but i dont see much effects on it ... maybe for others there is la, but definately not for me.  Im on other supplements which i felt the effect at least
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what are the other supplement you take? laugh.gif Intro Intro laugh.gif
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Ginkgo Biloba but just a rumor only.
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How about Coconut oil....?

Coconut oil can boosts brain functions and immune system, lower unhealthy cholesterol, has high antioxidant activity, nourish the skin, help to lose weight, higher energy level (the medium chain fatty acid can be used instantly to generate energy and heat and increase metabolism)...

Coconut oil can be used internally or externally (skin, hair). I even apply it directly to cuts or wounds and it helps to prevent infection, aids in the healing and reduce the pain as well. Can be used for cooking also... but better for sweet-based food, rather than salty food..

The better ones in the market are like Nutiva-Organic Extra Virgin Coconut Oil...
I get mine from iHerb.com.. cost about RM34 for 444ml....
just key in discount code GTJ907 for US$10 discount (above US$40)...

u can check it...
http://www.iherb.com/nutiva-organic-extra-...80?rcode=gtj907

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QUOTE(Tham @ Oct 8 2013, 12:28 AM)
That was what happened to me too, way back in 1974, the night before
the Maths paper in the MCE exam.

Worse, it caused diarrhea the next day, and I had to run to the toilet several
times before the paper. That was a day to remember for life.

That stupid product nearly caused me to fail that subject. I've never touched
it again ever since.
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do u know how/where to purchase Pramiracetam, or similar stuff in m'sia?
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QUOTE(Cattitude @ Oct 10 2013, 02:38 PM)
what are the other supplement you take?  laugh.gif Intro Intro  laugh.gif
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Currently am on Opticberry only smile.gif
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QUOTE(dream.angels @ Oct 23 2013, 03:31 PM)
How about Coconut oil....?

Coconut oil can boosts brain functions and immune system, lower unhealthy cholesterol, has high antioxidant activity, nourish the skin, help to lose weight, higher energy level (the medium chain fatty acid can be used instantly to generate energy and heat and increase metabolism)...

Coconut oil can be used internally or externally (skin, hair). I even apply it directly to cuts or wounds and it helps to prevent infection, aids in the healing and reduce the pain as well. Can be used for cooking also... but better for sweet-based food, rather than salty food..

The better ones in the market are like Nutiva-Organic Extra Virgin Coconut Oil...
I get mine from iHerb.com.. cost about RM34 for 444ml....
just key in discount code GTJ907 for US$10 discount (above US$40)...

u can check it...
http://www.iherb.com/nutiva-organic-extra-...80?rcode=gtj907
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here's some reviews on coconut oil from dr. oz..
http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/coconut-oil-super-powers-pt-1
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Tried a lot of different nootropics over the course of 1 year while I was in the US. The trick is finding those that are easy to get and relatively cheap. So the ones I recommend are:

(1) Vitamin B complex. Can get in any pharmacy.

(2) Coenzyme Q10. Can get in most pharmacies. No need prescription.

(3) Racetams like Piracetam, Aniracetam & Pramiracetam (I don't know how to get in Malaysia, although someone here said can get in any pharmacy. Might also be able to buy through the internet, although it is hard to know whether the content is genuine)

They improved my mood and helped release unlocked energy.

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Hi there,

Saw this thread mentioned on Modalert/Armodafinil

Perhaps my stocks here can help you on this.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3299295&hl=

P.S: I do have modalert if you prefer that. Prices will be slightly cheaper.

TQ
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B Complex Vitamins is good for the brain and keep the brain sharp. My recommendation is Bee Pollen which is complete food and the most nutritious food we can eat and contain over 200 kinds of nutrients and especially rich including B complex vitamins. All in one biggrin.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jul 30 2014, 01:50 PM)
B Complex Vitamins is good for the brain and keep the brain sharp. My recommendation is Bee Pollen which is complete food and the most nutritious food we can eat and contain over 200 kinds of nutrients and especially rich including B complex vitamins. All in one  biggrin.gif  thumbup.gif
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where can I get Bee Pollen? Available at watson/guardian?
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QUOTE(xortz @ Jul 30 2014, 03:26 PM)
where can I get Bee Pollen? Available at watson/guardian?
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brands chicken essence
thomson activated gingko tablets


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May be effective ........

May be effective .........

I hear that a million times from all sorts of products. Everyone's using that phrase just to sell their products.

What they really mean is "We don't really know it's effective or not, but we guess it could be because we read or heard it from someone or somewhere. And it will definitely help us sell our supplements if we just use that magic line " smile.gif

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QUOTE(Ngto @ Oct 28 2014, 04:21 AM)
May be effective ........

May be effective .........

I hear that a million times from all sorts of products. Everyone's using that phrase just to sell their products.

What they really mean is "We don't really know it's effective or not, but we guess it could be because we read or heard it from someone or somewhere. And it will definitely help us sell our supplements if we just use that magic line " smile.gif
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EGb 761 is the ''branded'' or ''original'' standardized ginkgo biloba
on the market -

Tanakan
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Neuroprotective effect of EGb761® and low-dose whole-body
γ-irradiationin a rat model of Parkinson's disease.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23696346/



Quantitative analysis of the flavonoid glycosides and terpene trilactones
in the extract of Ginkgo biloba and evaluation of their inhibitory activity
towards fibril formation of β-amyloid peptide.

http://www.mdpi.com/1420-3049/19/4/4466/pdf




Effect of Gingko biloba extract on scopolamine-induced
apoptosis in the hippocampus of rats.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23828103





Natural compounds and plant extracts as therapeutics against chronic
inflammation in Alzheimer's disease - a translational perspective.



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/25230232




Ginkgo biloba extract (EGb 761). State of knowledge in
the dawn of the year 2000.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10481350/




Pharmacological studies supporting the therapeutic use
of Ginkgo biloba extract for Alzheimer's disease.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/13130383




Ginkgo biloba extract (EGb 761) and CNS functions:
basic studies and clinical applications.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11475535




Pharmacokinetics of bilobalide, ginkgolide A and B after administration
of three different Ginkgo biloba L. preparations in humans.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20041430




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Gingko got effect on brain power?
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TBH, I am really not into taking medicines to sharpen my memory because I'm afraid of some side effects that might result from excessive intake of meds without any therapeutic claims. I'm not saying though that its bad for the health, I'm just more into natural ways of sharpening my memory. Well, you don't need to scrutinize each lessons you have. Take time to read it in order to retain it in your memory, focus and have enough rest in order for you to be prepared well in your exam. The time I usually study is between 4-6 in the morning to start up my day because its the time frame I think that my memory is still fresh and are able to grasp every learnings I take. One thing as well, I have a method which I include in my study habit in order for me to remember lists and that is the mnemonic. Its just simple though, you will actually take the acronyms that you need to memorize specially if its a group or lists of words.
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As a sufferer of adult ADHD and already tried multiple nootropics even including illegal drugs. I'll suggest to start with the basic 1st for study concentration and memory.

1st have to look at lifestyle and foods that you take.
-Nothing beats a Good morning exercise + sunlight. It help with concentration and mood for the whole day.
-try your best to eat healthily with variety. Plenty of vegetables and healthy fats. Try your best to cut junks foods, sugars and carbohydrates.
-cut coffee because of tolerance and it increase cortisol/anxiety instead get a good green tea or chocolate drink(dark cocoa powder and make sure it is not Dutch processed).
-learn to be organised in life and in study.

If all that already implemented, start with basic supplements
For study I'll suggest
-magnesium
-vitamin B complex
-vitamin C
-grape seed extract
-omega 3 (suggest from krill or very good quality fish oil(please keep fish oil in fridge because it easily rancid)
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Fish oil omega 3 - Particularly DHA is helpful when it comes to memory boost. Try incorporating walnuts, avocado and coconut oil to your diet too as these foods contain essential fats that are beneficial to the brain.
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Fish oil Omega 3 is good, besides, u need to have healthy lifestyle and diet as well.
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Brain supplement is Omega3, I recommend Solgar triple strength. Also dr recommend cod liver oil.
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you wont believe this but coffee helps
fish oils always help

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Is fish oil effective for an elderly Alzheimer patient?
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im surprised no one recommended psilocybin + lions mane + cordyceps stack here.

 

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