boy im glad i opened this thread..... you sir i salute

What's the rpm for VTEC to kick in for K20A?

After reading it for sometime.... it still make my eyes rolling hahahaha

Dual camshaft use more fuel hmmmmmm then if i add a few more screws to the cam pulley would it takes more lolssss...

Valve also got 4 for each piston i know the sky drops is called rain and its liquid is called water or what the scientist called H2o

Engine block got racing bred hahahahaha i must get MKA cert for my engine block soon.... maybe my engine block is come from champion line...

i drive both DOHC VTEC & single VTEC,i know FC of both car
dont tok kok here

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Added on April 6, 2012, 10:05 amracing bred=thats laymen term
means the material blok is different from single VTEC one

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Added on April 6, 2012, 10:06 amu dunno some engine got only 3 valve per piston?others even got 5 valve per piston

This post has been edited by e36.hartge: Apr 6 2012, 10:06 AM

What is racing bred? y u called that laymen terms?


What tok kok? tukul ah?
What for you know the FC of the cars, those cars are meant to be spirited driving.
So no FC is not the concern here, how the car perform matters.

u stupid or what?im toking that those cars are high fuel usage & giving reason what make its low FC

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Added on April 6, 2012, 10:24 amI also occasionally drive both my family's K20A & H22A la
of coz the DOHC VTEC realy sucks the much more fuel when ONLY VTEC kicks-in after 4000rpm

but on low rev,still cannot match singleVTEC car's FC

btw,u ever drive merc & bmw together & compare the FC?u know all merc are single-cam & all bmw are twin-cam?thats your lesson for today

This post has been edited by e36.hartge: Apr 6 2012, 10:24 AM

Lolsssss u really make me laugh rolling from Lowyat 5th Floor to Basement.....

Dont you understand how the car works.... go and google wikipedia dude....dont be dildomydude hahahahaha

3 Valve, 4 Valve or 5 Valve does not mean anything about consumption.... it is EFFICIENCY... FC is always depend on the car weight over power ration and the engine displacement.

Single cam Vtec can be as good FC as Twin Cam or vice versa.... depend how you drive but for performance wise Twincam had more benefits where the power band is higher and more efficient than Single cam setup....Why manufacturer dont create all twincam? its the cost and design.

ALL Merc Single cam???? better go n tanam your head dude.....

This post has been edited by mxsteven: Apr 6 2012, 10:45 AM

u stupid wan
merc all single cam la u dam dam
if AMG,not sure,maybe DOHC,never the inner engine in real life

This post has been edited by e36.hartge: Apr 6 2012, 10:50 AM

I bet you are the real idiot in the world.... so Merc V8 is single cam lah HAHAHAHAH

lolssss i really laugh hard now until basement 5 edi

TS edit the qoute back.
Myvi more gengg got Twincam and Dohc

yes its single cam,V8 one,so who is laughing now?so who is gonna tanam his head now?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_M155_engine
this V8 engine not only SOHC,but also with only 3 valves for each piston

but yeah,some others are DOHC as well,but its on V6

i agree that im stupid on some facts,but correct on other facts

This post has been edited by e36.hartge: Apr 6 2012, 11:04 AM

I bet u have to tanam your head lotsa time


W116 (1972)



This S-class flooded the streets in my childhood. Nevertheless, I do not have very fond memory of it, blame to its unrefined design. The W116 was born at a time new safety regulations getting effective. This demanded plastic bumpers and rubber side stripes. Unfortunately, like everyone else, Mercedes had not masterminded the art of integrating these safety features into the body shell, so they looked ill-fitted and at odds to the rest of the car.

Style-wise, the W116 was a brave (an unsuccessful) attempt for modernization. Its body shell was widened and lowered. The radiator grille evolved shorter and wider, while traditional circular headlights were replaced with two large rectangular ones with signal lamps integrated. Weight went up by around 100 kg, mostly due to improved safety. To enhance crash protection, the cabin section was made stiffer, and further research improved the progressive crumpling of the front and rear crumple zones. In the cabin, collapsible steering wheel, recessed switches and padded surfaces reduce the level of injury in collision. Fuel tank was relocated from the tail to above the rear axle. These features made the S-class the safest car in the world. Moreover, in its final year, it introduced the world's first ABS anti-lock brake system.

The chassis was a big departure from the previous generation. While the front double-wishbone setup sounds similar, it got anti-dive geometry and zero Kingpin offset (i.e. the steering axis falls onto the center of tire contact patch). The latter improved its steering response and reduced kickback a lot. At the rear, the low-pivot swing axles finally became history, as they were replaced with semi-trailing arms. This tamed the oversteer of its predecessor, making its handling safer and more predictable.



In the powertrain side, the 2.8-liter straight-six of 280SE/SEL became twin-cam and delivered an impressive 185hp (up 25hp). V8 models finally got proper names – 350SE/SEL and 450SE/SEL. They were good for 200hp and 225hp respectively, more or less the same as the ones introduced late in the life of the previous generation. The automatic transmissions now got torque converter instead of the previous fluid coupling for enhanced smoothness.

Autocar tested both 280SE and 450SEL. They topped 125 mph and 134 mph respectively, and accelerated from rest to 60 mph in 9.7 and 9.1 seconds respectively. The 280SE was praised for sweet revving engine, good handling and ride. Performance of 450SEL was disappointing, partly due to the power-sipping 3-speed automatic (lesser models used 4-speed auto), partly due to its extra weight. However, the British magazine praised it for refined ride, responsive handling that belied its size and superb power steering. The latter was light yet quick and free of kickback. No wonder 450SE/SEL was crowned European Car of the Year in 1974.

Like the previous generation, W116 was offered with a high-performance model, 450SEL 6.9. This will be dealt with a separate article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_M271_engine


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_M272_engine

took this out from links on the Merc W204 page. Pretty common car with common engines, and both are DOHC with 4 valves per cylinder and Variable Valve Timing. So what say you?

bro, just let him be.. he's just trolling.


johnkor dupe I sense...

nah we just having fun lolsssss no hard feel.... that is how we kill our time lols

What nonesense you saying?
I really dun get what are u trying to say.
Low FC? u mean high fuel usage car giving reason LOW FC?

and, what laymen terms are u saying? u havnt answer me that.

and to educate the regular peeps here with proper facts

Once again Another day is screwed by MXsteven.....

jeng jeng jeng.......

hahaha who is mojojojojojojojojo

another thread gunned down by Steven.

Just want to ask Vtec really engage at 4k? Sorry, I never own a vtec car before.

nah not gun down by me....

Vtec engage depends on models... and iVtec works differently.... the old heritage Vtec normally kick in about 4.2k and some 4.8k... B16A if not mistaken 4.2k and B18C and H22A 4.8k.... i cant confirm... u need to google hahaha but im sure B16A is 4.2k coz my civic with my brother is B16A auto.... everytime Vtec kicks in the gear change lololololssss