A JLW3v3 for that kinda price? Even at clear stock price it's not that cheap.

I wouldn't buy from this guy if I were you.

I didn't say it's not ori.. but I'd be very careful about its originality.

unfortunately the physical reproduction of the JL subs are almost if not identical and will be impossible to tell apart. The only obvious difference is the sound it makes. JLs are strong thumpy subs, the chinese immitation varient are not.

Honestly - for that kinda money if I do buy it I wouldn't complain about the sound. But if I wanted JL sound, I'd buy original JL from original distributor.

It would help if you did some research before coming in here asking this sort of question.

If you said RM5000 then the answer is sure yes.
If you are saying RM500 that's barely enough to get a decent speaker set.
If you want a complete set for RM500 you probably can with china-mari stuff but if you cannot be 'satisfied' with stock, what makes you think chinese brands will make it any better?

Don't misunderstand. No one is blaming you. We just want you to have a realistic view on things, so no need to apologise dude.

Erm.. how you understood that I have no idea.

If you're willing to spend, then no necessarily true. Those OEM plug adaptors and a Alpine touch screen will set you back quite a lot of $$$$ but no need for cutting.

As for warranty, anything you do to modify your car, service centers can and will blame the modification to not give you any warranty. So it's up to you.

I have a question.

How long does a HU last before it starts to sound off/funny? I've been struggling with my setup for a few months now and I cannot get the sound I've been looking for. Tested with new components, new amps and short of changing the wiring and RCAs (I'm not keen on trying). It just doesn't sound the same anymore and I keep feeling something is missing and doesn't feel 'whole'. I've tried tuning a dozen different ways with EQ, Xover, etc.

I'm starting to suspect my Alpine 9855 is dying on me.

Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions or a spare HU to loan me to test?

Ok. That's gonna be hard. And I honestly did not know HU's have a lifespan.

Anyone got a relatively new HXD2 for sale at a reasonably nice price?

You need to look at your components sensitivity instead of your HU. Most HU's have a pretty decent preout voltage anyway so check your components. The higher the sensitivity the easier it is to drive with low power. And when I say high, I mean >90dB.

I tell you what dude, since you're really newbie to this, why don't you just say how much you plan on spending and we'll tell you what you can and cannot buy.

Personally if you're a basshead, practically almost any speaker set you can find will suite your requirements except perhaps those 'immitation/cheap' brands.

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Added on July 4, 2012, 6:51 amI'm a little opposed to this theory. Perhaps 2ohm and 4ohm setup subs may not sound that different, but I've played around with 8ohm subs and 1ohm setups, very different la. I don't like 8ohm!

This post has been edited by izso: Jul 4 2012, 06:51 AM

It was plenty of power to feed the sub. Just the way it sounds was too 'soft'. Wasn't punchy and too 'smooth' sounding for my liking. 1ohm/2ohm seems to be more punchy.

RM300 subs... LOL.. ok. All the same then.

Not true la. 2k+ budget can get you a decent setup but you need a helluva lot of patience and scout at the right places. Get everything 2nd hand.

Friend of mine did his entire 3-way setup for RM2.5k budget. Everything he bought was either 2nd or 3rd hand.

- Northcreek tweeters
- Hybrid mids
- A/D/S/ midbass
- Cap itik ayam speaker cables
- Cap itik ayam RCA cables
- Alpine 9853
- PHD2200 and A/D/S/ amps
- Helix dark blue + sealed enclosure sub

All for 2.5k, ok what. Not cap ayam ler except for speakers wires and RCA. The installation was DIY though so that's some savings already.

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Added on July 4, 2012, 5:50 pmIf I were you, I'd buy some sound dampening material like Sikadamp, Dynamat Extreme, etc and DIY dampen the areas that are rattling. Meaning you'd have to get down and dirty but at least that'll give you something to do over the weekend (assuming you don't have a girlfriend).

Then invest in a high sensitivity component set like the Rainbow SLX speakers. They work bloody well with stock HU and if you were in KL I could let you hear it in my Myvi (stock HU).

Then finally when you have the time and money throw in a 4-channel amp to whack the front components and a sub at the same time (for $ saving la).

That's the cheapest you can go for decent SQ + bass. Don't rush ICE. If you do it'll cost more to keep upgrading upgrading and upgrading. Been there done that.

This post has been edited by izso: Jul 4 2012, 05:50 PM

HU = Head Unit = your player.

In KL the Rainbow SLX is about RM800 give or take. My Myvi has the stock HU connected to the Rainbow SLX component set and that's it. I recently added an active subwoofer under the seat and that's all I plan to do to the car. My Myvi is pretty much stock inside and out.

DIY installation is quite simple once you understand how things are connected and how they work. Do you know how to strip the interior of your Kancil?

Aisay.. I was just using Rainbow SLX as an example. Just find a high sensitivity component set.

When you survey for components check out the sensitivity, usually measured in decibels (dB). Anything higher than 90 should suffice.

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Added on July 9, 2012, 6:58 amI smell poison. Anaconda level poison.

Morel, Dynaudios, Scanspeaks, DLS all need powerful amps to run them otherwise they'll sound crappy. But I do agree with hans18, buying these 2nd hand and slowly building up your ICE is better than jumping into an entry level setup and upgrading every 2 months

This post has been edited by izso: Jul 9 2012, 06:58 AM

No, I personally think HU is last. But to be honest though, the output is only as good as its source, so HU upgrade should provide a difference in sound. But I suggest to do this last cuz the speakers need to be in place and the amps too, then once that's done upgrade the source (HU) and it'll be like "WHOA" difference in terms of SQ

Yes you can

No I dunno

Dudes, if I were you guys, I'd save the money on buying Mohawks or Lanzar and wait for an opportunity to buy a reputable 2nd hand set instead. Unless you know what it sounds like it's very likely you won't like Lanzar or Mohawk.

Howiechoo is the man you want to see if you're interested in less popular brands or almost considered "cap ayam" brands. He has the knack of mixing and matching these cheaper brands to deliver pretty decent sound.

CV Audio Uptown Damansara is a good place to go checkout too since they have mid-range to high-end speakers to compare with. My Myvi was setup at CV Audio with stock HU at a total cost of RM2.4k give or take and it sounds pretty good.

If you have a way bigger budget and want to go for ultra highend so much so that once you test their systems you'll never want anything lower end, Audio Creations in NZT PJ can do you good too.

Lastly sound is subjective. What I like you may not like. What you like I may not like. Best thing for you guys to do is setup a ICE TT and we can let you test to your hearts content the systems we have in our cars and you can decide what sort of sound you want then it'll be easier to recommend.

Wah.. Taiko.. are you seriously asking this question? You should know better!

And I thought you quit ICE? Now buntut gatal again? LOL

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Added on July 18, 2012, 7:51 pmDude, don't listen to wall demo units only. The accoustics is way different than in a car. The same setup for a Myvi may not sound as good in an Alza. What car do you drive? I suggest checking out Uptown Damansara's CV Audio and ask Peter if he's free to let you audit his Rainbow setup in his Myvi. It's not a super high end setup but it's pretty enough for me to get on by.

Wanna do a ICE TT? Ajak all the sifu sifu to come out and poison your newbie ears kaokao

This post has been edited by izso: Jul 18 2012, 07:51 PM