Any decent player to replace for Altis 2006?

I am having problem with the stock player - most of the time cannot play CD.

Requirement on the new
1. Touch screen
2. USB / any memory card slot

Hi there! I was wondering if you guys could help me out with setting up my in car entertainment unit! I'm rather new in the scene so I have next to no idea on how an in car entertainment should be

My ride: Perodua Viva 850

Prefers SQ/SPL/SQL: SQL I'd like a balance of both worlds, so I'm guessing using the stock speakers are out of the question right? Then again I wouldn't like my bass to be too overpowering yet you're still able to feel it's kick.

File format/medium used for my source: FLAC and MP3 mostly. I'd like a bluetooth or auxiliary jack that I could use. However I think bluetooth and usd should be sufficient for me. Will I get lossless quality when streaming through bluetooth?

Music genre: EDM and any electronic music in general, Jazz, Contemporary R&B. So I guess this means very pronounced mids and lows? Wouldn't mind some clear highs too.

Setup type preferences: I'd prefer a passive setup but I really need more information on this. Anyone mind helping me out. As I understand, passive speakers require a separate amplifier to power it?

Other requirements (if any): Definitely would prefer a head unit with a built-in bluetooth receiver. That was I can mount my phone on the windscreen without another separate auxiliary cable blocking my view. I was looking at the Pioneer HU that isn't that bad looking.

Budget : Since I'm a rather poor college student, something within the range of max Rm1000? Is that do-able?

Additionally, I would like to know the power draw of the entire setup on my car. Would it be substantial? Because my car is a really small and low powered car and I'm afraid the lights will start to flicker when I turn my ICE on hahaha!

Oh and is it necessary to do sound deadening on my car to improve the acoustics and to avoid sounding like an ******* blasting music along a street late at night? If so, how can I go about doing it?


Thank you guys so so much!

This post has been edited by Yamheadyan: Jun 19 2013, 05:43 PM

ok first off, stock speakers are fine if you want to use them, can just use fader function to have their gain/volume reduced so they won't be so prominent in your system.

from bluetooth, subjective, since it is via wireless medium. you can however have a PMP (portable music player) that supports FLAC if you insist on FLAC and connect it to the head unit via a good quality aux cable. if you can settle with mp3, using usb would be best

actually even active or passive would require an amplifier. considering you're starting out/new, with a very restricted budget, passive setup would be recommended. (typically cheaper since you don't strictly need an active xover/processor)

with rm1k, it is do-able, however you'll have to do it step by step.
suggesting getting a HU + reputable brand component set, may require 2nd hand items if your 1k budget is strict, else maybe stretch it a bit to 1.1-1.3k depending on what HU/comp set speakers you're getting.

power isn't an issue if you're not moving up to amp/subwoofer yet. so for not not something to worry about.
in fact, even if you're on amp/sub, entry level items wouldn't be draining much power anyways unless you're going SPL and/or you just simply blast your audio at ear deafening levels then perhaps it'll be a problem.

actually, sound proofing isn't so much about preventing music going out (although this will be a side effect of it), it is more towards preventing noise from polluting your audio experience, and that is achieved by preventing external noise from entering in as well as internal noise such as your car engine, speakers rattling the door panels and so on.
personally, AT LEAST door panel sound proofing is required, however with your budget, it won't be possible and/or it won't be done adequately enough. (if you consider used HU/speakers, that might be very possible though )

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE DETAILED REPLY! Really appreciated that!

I've just noticed a couple of spelling errors within my original post.. haha. It's kinda embarrassing ><"!

Okay got it! So I could just use the faders in my head-unit to bring down the output in my stock speakers.

This lead me to think : If I were to retain my stock speakers, would I need to cut out new ports for the new component speakers and their tweeters?

Because right now, my car has only ports at the sides of my doors (All four sides) but they lack a tweeter port.

Is it better for me in this case to install a coaxial setup in my car? Or should I just strip out the stock speakers straight up as they are pretty bland sounding and don't have much dynamic range and a pretty narrow frequency response. Pretty much sounding like crap.

As I understand that most component speaker setups require a separate crossover while I have seen a coaxial with a build in crossover. Am I right on this?

Do you have any suggestions or recommendations for a brand for my component/coaxial set? Is pioneer a reputable brand in the ICE community?

Also, do you have any recommendations for entry woofers? Preferably a smaller one because I don't have much trunk space to spare. Or do you think it's unnecessary given that I'm going for a SQL setup. How much am I looking at after adding a woofer?

Alright! I totally understood your soundproofing part. This might need more saving up for the foam pads. Maybe I'll find some decent deals around here in the forums! Will keep a lookout for that!


Again! Thanks for your awesome assistance. Really love music and it's one of my life's little pleasure when driving.


Edit : SICK GAMING SETUP YOU'VE GOT THERE MAN! Whoa!

This post has been edited by Yamheadyan: Jun 20 2013, 01:22 AM

you're welcome, and don't worry about it.

depending on where you're installing your new speakers, most likely yes.

go with component set speakers better. the old stock ones you can either add at the back doors/just above the rear passenger seats like most stock oem placements do, or just keep in storage/sell if your rear door already have speakers and you aren't keen on pleasing rear passengers.
if you're like me though, i just cut off the wire of my stock speakers and never listen to them ever again

most, if not all component set speakers come with passive cross overs already (not mounted/built along with the the speaker drivers itself)
hence "component set"

pioneer is a reputable brand in head units. speaker wise, not so much unless you're referring to their high end line up. (in the 20-30k upwards)
considering your budget, woofer may not be very possible. brand wise, best if you check the threads in this sub-forum (including this one) and survey around, join gatherings/TT if possible to audition.
woofer with amp, you're looking at probably 1.5-3k depending on what kinda setup you want to run

actually for proper sound proofing, proper products are recommended for specific application. just the door panel alone using reputable products such as STP, you're looking at between rm400-600, more if you want more layers/mid -to higher end models.

don't mention btw, glad to be of help. that's how i deal with the every day jam for many many long years - Music
btw that "sick gaming setup" was awesome 7 years ago lol. now it's just an avg pc

Hi there, been getting tired of the substandard audio system on my car, and am looking for a change up. I think it's great that you guys are offering advice to complete strangers like myself. I'm a complete newbie to car audio, and would appreciate any help in this regard.

My ride: Toyota 86
Prefers SQ/SPL/SQL: SQ
File format/medium used for my source: Bluetooth smartphone (android compatibility is a plus)
Music genre: Jazz / Classical / Oldies (volume normally mid to low with minimal bass)
Budget: ~ RM 3000
Setup type preferences: No real preference. I understand that passive is simpler.
Other requirements (head unit): I need bluetooth streaming with calls, a design that fits the black/red theme.
Other requirements (speakers) : If possible, speakers that can seamlessly fit in the space occupied by the stock speakers as I'm hesitant to make new holes to fit speakers. Is there a standard size for these things? Rear speakers are less important as the rear seats don't hold passengers normally.

Thanks again

This post has been edited by Anon_1986: Jun 26 2013, 12:49 AM

hmm pioneer 80prs + focal mid level component set? your budget may not even be enough

So how much would I need to budget for this? Also, I know this is a bit unimportant, but it seems that the head unit is half the size of the stock. Thanks so much!

if you want an amp you need additional 1-3k more, want better range speakers (or even 3 way), maybe add 1-2k more
want subwoofer and a monoblock/additional amp add maybe 1-2k more for sub, and 2-3k more for amp/monoblock

for HU, if yours a 2din, can just have aftermarket fitting/custom fiberglass.

Wow that was very fast!

Hmm so a minimum spend of 8k? Sounds pretty steep considering I listen to non-bassy music at moderate volume.

Anyway I'm thinking of say the HU + better range speakers + subwoofer, without the amp/monoblock for around 4k. Is that reasonable, or am I being unjustifiably cheap?

take it in steps then, start with only HU and component set
who knows if you're already satisfied, then its the end of your journey.

well my full set entry level costed me about 4-5k including sound proofing, so if you want something better (which you should, considering the stock 86 speakers may be quite decent too) then you'll need to adjust accordingly/scale your budget.

Sadly, the stock speakers seem worse than my relative's camry speakers, so I figure anything will be an improvement

I'll take your advice thanks!

One last thing, how would I go about finding speakers that fit the space occupied by the existing speakers?

hard to believe when both cars are from Toyota anyways.
and you're welcome

you'll have to get the speakers specifications.
if you're not familiar, best is to let an experienced/reputable installer to handle it.
can suggest Howiechoo or carcrazy if you're within KL/Selangor state.

if u are not a bass head, u can go for simple setup that will give u quite some good sound...

a headunit with bt will cost u 600-800 for a good 1
a component set with good and linear response will be 1k++
a active sub to put under seat (if got space) from 500-1k

this will upgrade ur oem sound to another level. a simple setup are easy to maintain and no trouble than u install a lot of things but no time to learn how to use them....

What???

What is bass and volume has to do with price???

general misconception that... too many sub-loaded cars around... giving the impression the more louder, the more money...

doesnt always go that way though...

Ah apologies, to be more specific, I thought that you would only need a high end subwoofer and amplifier if you need high amounts of bass and volume. I do intend of course to buy the best speakers and HU that I can afford, and skimp more on the subwoofer and amp. Please correct me if my thinking is off.

No, car sound system do not work that way.

Actually there is no best speakers or HU. They are only best if it suits your taste.

You might want to consider soundproofing too, then only are you able to enjoy more of your music in the car.

Plenty of ways to get what you want.

Take the ideas from forum, and be present yourself in shops to listen it yourself to decide.

subwoofer do not only "boom boom boom" and loudness is not necessary not good, but depend on how you define loud also lar...

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Anon_1986
highly agree. without proper subwoofer, even for non pop/bassy music, you won't be able to enjoy the cello/drums/low notes from pieces such as these:


if you prefer more main stream pieces:


such pieces would sound pretty bland without the low notes being reproduced properly