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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V21, GASAK KUASAAAAA

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davidke20
post Apr 15 2012, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 14 2012, 11:09 PM)
Saga is Drive-By-Wire, stepping on pedal before car starts does nothing.
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Bro, comes to think of it, if user manual against pressing accelerator, meaning DBW actually functioning after ACC. Use your common sense and think why they against stepping on pedal during ignition. Mechanical wise, I have not dismantle a GAGA before, but from what I heard from the ball bearing starter, there is an auto cut off function that prevent the starter being crank under 2 condition:

1) When the main shaft of the starter is still spinning, meaning if you fail to start your engine, your starter main shaft could still turning. If you try to turn your key, nothing will happen. This is to prevent your flywheel pull back your starter that causes damage to both starter/flywheel. The cut off will wait until the main shaft of the started totally stopped before it allow to crank again.

2) As same as condition 1... some sohigh.... blush.gif me blush.gif 1st time took the car... blush.gif Because haven't been driving a NORMAL car for a long time, have forgotten how a standard car SHOULD sounded/feels like. When I got on the car, I didn't even know its started! Its "soundproof" is soooooo damn good to me! laugh.gif I didn't even bother to look at the tachometer, and start turning the key! blush.gif

So, I believe DBW is NOT cut off before engine start. I think it follow the ACC instead wink.gif

NOT provoke you, discussion only smile.gif

QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 14 2012, 11:46 PM)
u say one ah.

White Tom Yam
Yin Yong Mantis Prawn (Salted Egg & Gong Poh)
Mango Chicken
Thai Style Tilapia Fish
Kerabu Chicken Feet
Stir-Fry Pucuk Ubi with garlic

all on your bill. whistling.gif
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Can la, but you only smile.gif Cannot afford to buy meal for whole team right now la. But I promise Curry Laksa on me next time if we able to arrange Melaka outing, I'll buy lunch at Jonker88(1 of my favorite) for the whole team.

QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 14 2012, 11:49 PM)
To narrow down the problem, start your car as usual, then disconnect the battery.

If the car dies, then the alternator is at fault.
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That too, iron out the weaken battery suspicious. Volt meter show 12V doesn't mean the battery is still healthy. When apply load(spin the starter), the voltage could drop down to 11/10. If apply load and it drop to 8V, normally your car wouldn't start flex.gif
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post Apr 15 2012, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 15 2012, 12:04 AM)
hmm.gif

Could be the cause of some bloody weird noises i hear whistling.gif
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What bloody weird noise? No understand blink.gif
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post Apr 15 2012, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 15 2012, 12:09 AM)
Some weird rubbing noises of sorts if the engine doesnt start
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blink.gif I go try again tomolo. I write that base on my past experience with my BLM. It does cut off when the starter is still spinning.
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post Apr 15 2012, 09:14 AM

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Gud Moaning Ebibody!!!! Curry Laksa, Durian Cendol, BABi Pongteh, Satay Celup, here I come! rclxm9.gif Am NOT going above 110kmh this time! flex.gif

Anyone in Melaka? Care for a TT?

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post Apr 15 2012, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 15 2012, 01:33 PM)
Kenjilew, so your oil leak problem solved? Gasket or rocker cover?
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At PC fair earning commission to overhaul after lastweek u guys all went back, we head kesas to try out the freebies,also ditched a few Plotong Wila laugh.gif
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post Apr 15 2012, 02:31 PM

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Yes. He said he'll test the flashlights, I will test the racing filter. I drive, he hooked his leg on the wiper, extend his arm infront to accumulate direct beam from the headlamp for the solar power flashlight. Due to bad alternator, I had to drive faster only the headlight will be bright enough to lite up the flashlights. At the same time accidently provoked a few Plotong Vila. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
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post Apr 15 2012, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 15 2012, 02:40 PM)
If you dont mind sacrificing, then do double layer, like mine brows.gif

Thicker tint = harder to smash
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Double tined on GAGA or BiBA? Or u did it to both of them blink.gif my factory tint already peeled off for B7 inspection sad.gif
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post Apr 16 2012, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Apr 16 2012, 10:13 AM)
dunno yet... no time to solve it... sad.gif
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No need repair la. Save some money for S4PH CFE swap/Boleh Letak Mivec/SAGALOTION 4G63T
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post Apr 16 2012, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Apr 16 2012, 05:50 PM)
"Vicious Circles" hv been happening as long as me cld rber... brows.gif
Simple.
Someone stole that guy's antenna.
He stole yours.
And...if yu now go & steal another car antenna... rolleyes.gif
Then that "vicious cycle" continues... sad.gif

ps. The cycle might not hv been perpectuated by a car owner...cld juz b a "jaga keta" boy or some1 out 2make a fast MYR...
Many Msians juz dun wanna pay the price of a new part...3rd World mentality! Cari jalan senang/murah...

Where there's demand, the thefts will continue...


Added on April 16, 2012, 5:59 pm
Nope. It works juz as well if mp3 files are NOT in any folder. tongue.gif
Juz that yu kenot select/skip folders. Juz play & skip song by song. icon_rolleyes.gif

ps. Above true for HU in my FL. smile.gif
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Last time I lost my pretty RE雨官 badge on my RX-2 cry.gif . Few days later it appeared on a HONDA EX5 near my house. At 1st I doubt, people can buy it anywhere. After I got down my car and inspect on the badge, on the lower part middle of the 官 wording has a halfmoon chip that causes by an accident when I was pulling a nut from my work desk, the badge was hit by my spanner. shakehead.gif Anyway, you don't wanna hear the rest of the story... shakehead.gif

There is no morale on this story, but its pathetic that they rip my RE badge to put on a HONDA, besides its a motorbike. I won't be surprise if I see a BLM antenna appear on somebody's helmet icon_idea.gif
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post Apr 16 2012, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(koh_424 @ Apr 16 2012, 06:39 PM)
Just now on the way goin home only realise my brake creating rubber scratching around the brake pedal. Any1 face tis problem b4?
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On the pedal?! shocking.gif
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post Apr 16 2012, 07:56 PM

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Found R3 BLM!!!
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in the police station blink.gif

QUOTE(koh_424 @ Apr 14 2012, 02:51 PM)
Seat custom made with special holes. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 14 2012, 02:52 PM)
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
Next time I follow a Saga SE got shit drop out from bottom of the car then I know it's you.
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Spot on! Very responsible, he clean up first after parking.
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 14 2012, 11:53 PM)
that Thai restaurant very CIMB one.

Cina India Melayu Benggali also come and eat one.
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Let's go Banting, all in your car! Got special parking place for your car


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QUOTE(koh_424 @ Apr 16 2012, 07:52 PM)
I mean step on the pedal then it's got rubber scratching sound lo.
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Tomolo if able to meetup then you explain to me on the spot la.

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post Apr 16 2012, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 16 2012, 08:02 PM)
Should I be afraid to ask you what you were doing there?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

This uncle very free today...
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Nothing to be afraid of, "TT" went wrong tongue.gif BLM maxxed out 190kmh(ady full throttle, but it won't go further), WAJIA can actually go beyond that shakehead.gif
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post Apr 16 2012, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 16 2012, 09:36 PM)
You not going this weekend?
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No wor
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post Apr 16 2012, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Apr 16 2012, 10:29 PM)
sorry sorry ! my bad my bad ! sad.gif
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This time you kena putih² tongue.gif So, let me take the blame. I started all this. Kenji trying to point out to me he actually tried beyond my limit. Eric was right too, as he went through such trauma and now understand road safety & cherish life. It's all my fault. I drove 190, I deserve to die, and I hope I die all by myself. Enough? I already had my ticket for that and thanks for Eric's concern. I will die when I'm god damn ready. Besides, if some arsehole jump his head out on a 6 lane freeway whilst I'm having my speed test with a WAJIA(sorry I didn't know it belongs to the fuzz), that arsehole deserved it. On top of all that, if the car lose control, be it 90kmh or 190kmh, I see you all in hell. Your car rated 3 star on a 64kmh crash test. Try to drive below 64kmh on a S16 import version of GAGA, you may have better chance to survive. Remember the love one, dont drive above 64kmh!

I think there is piece of unfairness. Eric survived a traumatized accident, and now he's a road safety lecturer, I don't blame him that. Come on guys/girls, how many of you drive according to speed limit? I'm not promoting drive above speed limit.

Kenji, you know how I drive. Only you can judge me and understand me.
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post Apr 17 2012, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 16 2012, 10:19 PM)
Random FC report...

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Apr 16 2012, 10:19 PM)
doh.gif  doh.gif
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FC report? You mean this 1?
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post Apr 17 2012, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(ho yong lu @ Apr 17 2012, 01:29 AM)
what to do with a nut ? seriously , if u dun wanna answer pls dun create tension here and immatured . i am jz asking opinion from those who might had tried it . thanks
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He meant not worthy, as the effect is just as close as adding a nut to the car, nothing much serious.
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post Apr 17 2012, 06:51 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 17 2012, 02:47 AM)
that's what they do

FACT.

"The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is."  Winston Churchill

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post Apr 17 2012, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(cwl_ykh @ Apr 17 2012, 10:33 AM)
yeah it is already warm up.... sweat.gif
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1)Idling speed too low
2)Vacuum instability(if there is a vacuum hose,could be leak/disconnected)
3)Wrong petrol(result in retarded ignition)
4)Low combustian pressure. Gasket leak(ever overheat your engine before? Check the rocker cover surrounding see whether greassy or dry)

Last thing u can check is whether it makes a different with/without aircond. If without aircond no such problem, then its loosen throttlebody result in vacuum leak.

Regardless of your finding, you're advise to go back SC to rectify unless your warranty ady void.
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QUOTE(ho yong lu @ Apr 17 2012, 12:34 PM)
ownself never finish reading dun tembak simply. i said last resort here .  doh.gif  btw ,  u failed to impress me . thanks
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Hi there,

Pls forgive their wordings. Prior to their fierce reply as I guess there're misunderstanding in between. What V12k meant is a truth, it IS a matter between 1 bolt but that's it. There are no magic in trying to flash the ECU & u get a few more horses. Take a look into your engine bay, there is no MESS FLOW SENSOR near the air filter, safe to said the entire engine management is PRESET & locked. The only time u flash a locked ECU is when its fresh from the semicon factory. From my right foot stepping on Kenji's vehicle, I can tell the difference between a factory fresh BLM compare to a NUT bolted BLM, it response much better than usual, however no horse power gain. What I know is there is only 1 nut different. As of what/where/how, I have no idea, but for 1 piece of nut definitely not worth to spend RM250. I guess they're deperately help you to save your money. They're mean to all kind of blood sucker(untruthful claims by other mechanics), so I guess it all started from the NUT replied by V12k. Take the advise & ask for help. The alternative solution can be much cheaper/safer than u pay RM250. Let's not forget, we're not making money here, but the guy who ask for RM250 is. We're the BLM/FL/FLX owner here, we've been through a lot of dipshyt, spending all kind of useless fund in doing idiot mods getting cheated by arseholes.

So, just forget about all the rages. I met these people, namely dares/V12k/kenji/doodleface/huzaifa/koh424/ibnuasad personally. They're all friendly & nice people. They're very knowledgeable in GAGA & I save a lot from spending on unwanted/useless modification. The NUT thing is a real thing. Pls take it with open mind. If u need more help, just come to the next TT & talk to them, see how can they help with a minimal cost instead of spending RM250 & get what similar to a piece of NUT.

Cheers smile.gif
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post Apr 17 2012, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(koh_424 @ Apr 17 2012, 03:08 PM)
Ei uncle, u bery fast free to type tis long story?

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As I always advice pple to practice safety, 2 hands on steering. I replied via tongue instead. Next time we do gymkhana at your factory again I show u how.

QUOTE(Wuakaka @ Apr 17 2012, 03:12 PM)
campro is using tmap,temperature manifold absolute pressure and the sensor is on throttle body,and yes,simple tuning can be done on the butterfly itself to increase the respond...
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Friend, is it safe to said the factory ECU can't be flash unless its unlocked? From my experience with my dad's Plotong Vila 1.3, there is no way I can rewrite the ECU unless I change to imported MMC ECU. to improe performance/tuning this type of machine needed manual tricks to cheat the sensor reading such as an extra vacuum for the MAP sensors so it got confused and spray more fuel from the injectors? However, my previous 4G92 not required to do all those tricks. Plug in machine, we can arrange how many CC of fuel on each region of RPM to achieve lean/stoich/rich mixture for performance/fuel safe purposes.

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