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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Liverpool 2-1 Everton- FA CUP FINAL NEXT

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Rotuham
post Mar 30 2012, 02:17 PM

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For those drawing parallels between ORN and kenny,orn was 45 when took over while kenny came in at 60.
There must be a reason why John Henry wanted a younger manager like AVB.That probably explains why they took some time before giving kenny a permanent contract.

For me,kenny has done the ''steadying the ship'' job that woy was supposed to do.
It still remains unclear whether he is the man to take us forward.His tactics this season have been suspect and his purchases have been anything but spectacular though i can't deny the football has been positive.

Kenny won the league with blackburn but not without jack walker's dole.Can you say that he has the same backing now?
I think not.FSG are not sugar daddies like jack walker because they are a business franchise.Without massive investment you cannot expect us to improve in the league next season.Do you think only we will improve?Arsenal,chelsea,man city and united will spend to improve as well.At the end of the day,we won't cut the gap.We are merely preventing it from getting bigger.

Also if we were to go back to kenny's blackburn title winning team,it was predominantly british with the likes of shearer and sutton.Kenny understandably wants to repeat that success formula here but is it going to work?From what we have witnessed this season,it's far from convincing.Kenny's best signings are not even english for that matter.

It's still murky right now but we will be able to assess our achievements this season and it's still too early to tell if we have progressed or regressed.I absolutely loathe it when players come out and tell us we have progressed at the back of insipid performances.Please don't get me wrong and i apologise if i have been disrespectful lately but i only have the club's best interests at heart.

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post Mar 30 2012, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Mar 30 2012, 10:44 AM)
who would be in your 5 a side team.
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If in 2000's then its gotta be agger,gerrard,alonso,suarez and torres.

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post Mar 31 2012, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(Adryan @ Mar 30 2012, 08:24 PM)
Yeah, that was a decent target but it is not happening this season. The main problem in the squad at the end of the day, this season, was the lack of goals. I don't think you can blame Kenny for Kuyt and Suarez missing their penalties or Martin Kelly missing a sitter or Suarez to head to Friedel from 3 yards and so on.

If we had been more clinical in front of goal, especially in the first half of the season at Anfield, we'd certainly have at least 15 points more and we wouldn't be discussing this and maybe the year 2012 form would have been different.
We won't improve if we're always selling players (not the deadwood ones) and buying players after that. We're merely replacing, not improving! I mean, if we were to sell the likes of Carroll, Downing and Adam .. to get Martinez, Lavezzi and Neymar (just examples), we would have lost three and gained 3 only. It's different to just buying Martinez, Lavezzi and Neymar alone (while Adam, Downing and Carroll would make good squad players). And this process of selling and then buying has happened in the last 5 years or so.
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I concur.That's what i meant too.not on adam though tongue.gif

We need the martinez,lavezzi and neymar types to come in straight into our starting 11 not as squad players.Without CL we are going to find it really difficult to persuade them to come here.You have to also consider the fact that we pay lower wages compared to chelsea,city and united.The only way is to win the FA cup,get a respectable top 6 finish and offer higher wages(this depends on the owners) to attract those players here.Finishing 6th with two cups will help minimise the effects of being out of the CL.

At liverpool the goal scoring burden lies heavily on suarez and carroll.At united hernandez,welbeck,rooney mainly and berbatov & owen get the goals for them.
I know we don't like united but considering they are 1st in the table,they are undoubtedly the benchmark for success.

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post Mar 31 2012, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(Adryan @ Mar 31 2012, 07:33 AM)
Yes, it will be difficult to attract players with the lack of Champions League as well. I know there are players who are willing to come even though there is no Champions League for us but not everyone is like that. Also, I pretty much want players who want to play for us, not just because we offer Champions League.

United's got a poacher in the box who will get the goals in Hernandez - something we lack as well.

But honestly, though our forwards are not exactly firing on all cylinders, the midfielders have to take some of the blame as well. Only three Premier League goals from Henderson, Adam (goals against Wolves and Everton were own goals) and Downing combined. That is not good enough. Even Skrtel alone has probably scored more!!!
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Hmmm,hernandez didn't start many games this season for that matter.If i am not mistaken welbeck plays more than him.But they still win.

That means we need to find players more guys like bellamy.I will always welcome players who are liverpool fans since their childhood days because you know they are not coming for the money and trophies only.
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post Mar 31 2012, 08:24 PM

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I knew you were gonna say robbie keane.But he claimed that he was a fan of other clubs since childhood as well. laugh.gif

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/co...icle309781.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...-week-deal.html



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post Mar 31 2012, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(Adryan @ Mar 31 2012, 08:51 PM)
I knew you were gonna say about him claiming to be a fan of Celtic as well tongue.gif
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He says that about every club he moves to. doh.gif

If tomorrow he moves to Selangor FC,he will say he was a selangor childhood fan too.
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post Apr 1 2012, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(bitebug @ Apr 1 2012, 01:50 AM)
Meh I don't care for BPL anymore this season. Only game I'm watching is the game at Wembley. Merseyside derby!!
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I actually care about one more EPL game.Against chelsea......Return of torres to anfield brows.gif
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post Apr 1 2012, 06:52 PM

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Just to bring up another issue,the offical liverpoolfc page on facebook has 8,864,597 likes as of now.

Mu have 23,717,996 likes

Arsenal 9,597,250 likes

Chelsea 9,300,191 likes

We are lagging quite badly behind these teams which means the younger generation find liverpool a less attractive franchise.I think it's safe to say that majority of our fan base are old timers.
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post Apr 1 2012, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Apr 1 2012, 07:46 PM)
Liverpool: Reina, Flanagan, Carragher, Skrtel, Enrique, Gerrard, Spearing, Shelvey, Bellamy, Carroll, Suarez. Subs: Doni, Aurelio, Maxi, Henderson, Coates, Kuyt, Downing.

NO STERING?
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liverpool 3-0 newcastle with this formation tongue.gif

I expect shelvey to score brows.gif
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post Apr 1 2012, 10:55 PM

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Just devastated. sad.gif

I didn't expect this to happen.haih...looks like we are becoming the next leeds icon_question.gif
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post Apr 1 2012, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Apr 1 2012, 11:22 PM)
later rafa fakap...bring back KD?
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post Apr 1 2012, 11:26 PM

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Probably no the right time to say this but we need to wait till the end of the season to decide if kenny should stay or not.

I was one for kenny leaving but i had a reality check and i think he deserves until the end of the season to turn things around.

Winning FA cup is more crucial than ever now if we want to ease some pain off our league failure.
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post Apr 1 2012, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(Ken @ Apr 1 2012, 11:47 PM)
they leave before the wigan match end last week rolleyes.gif
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There's a difference between daytrippers and loyals like duke red said last time.You have to be pretty hardcore if you go to away games.I have read that some manchester united oldtimers go to away games only because OT only sings when the team is winning.
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post Apr 2 2012, 12:45 AM

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I think failure to win the FA cup and finishing outside 6th place will most likely ensure kenny's sacking.
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post Apr 2 2012, 12:58 AM

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A lot of people on here saying gerrard did shout at kenny.

http://forums.liverpoolfc.tv/threads/30157...rrard-and-Kenny
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post Apr 2 2012, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Apr 2 2012, 02:44 AM)
20 per cent off in online store

See those replies. It's all over the place now. Not even related to the post. sweat.gif
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Lol. I saw a few comments. ''We should sell our players at a 20% discount''

Another one ''It should be 100% after yesterday's performance.''
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post Apr 2 2012, 01:33 PM

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Hmmm,here's the link for gerrard shouting at kenny.
http://twitpic.com/9498gn

Decide it for yourselves.Personally i think gerrard has been disrespectful to his manager.Who the hell does he think he is? He played like shit as well and i don't think he had the moral ground to shout at kenny.

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post Apr 2 2012, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Apr 2 2012, 01:47 PM)
i think you have already made yer mind up ........how sure are you?
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i thought there was nothing to it the first time i saw it but you can clearly see gerrard waving his hands asking kenny to get off pitch at the end of the video.

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post Apr 2 2012, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Apr 2 2012, 01:53 PM)
Aye.
But that may not be disrespectful because Kenny can get banned for pitch invasion!
Kenny's supposed to stay in the box for managers. 

So i cant say that Stevie's disrespectful............
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You have a point but i don't like what i just saw.Carroll throwing his shirt off in the tunnel also isn't really a good thing to do.
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post Apr 2 2012, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(RyanHo @ Apr 2 2012, 02:02 PM)
kenny dalgish left the tech area which would resulted to cause more problems. gerrard doesnt mean to be disrepectful. ur thoughts overwhelmed u. smile.gif
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I really hope there's nothing to it.

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