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TSgeniuz
post Mar 20 2012, 09:12 AM, updated 14y ago

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Hi guys audio kaki's out there.

How can we improve our sound quality audio? Whether need to install power-amp or change the HU and speaker? If we change HU, any good HU that can support steering wheel control buttons?

Please advice. Thanks

This post has been edited by geniuz: Apr 9 2012, 01:14 PM
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post Mar 20 2012, 03:27 PM

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depends on your budget. You'll need at least RM3k if you want to change the HU, get a decent component set, a 4-chan amp and a sub.

You can setup so the back speakers only drive the mids (driven by HU) and get the amp to power the component set+subs.

Might want to consider sound proofing too, at least the front door. Don't bother with hood/firewall unless you have the cash to spend.
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post Mar 20 2012, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(geniuz @ Mar 20 2012, 09:12 AM)
Hi guys audio kaki's out there.

How can we improve our sound quality audio? Whether need to install power-amp or change the HU and speaker? If we change HU, any good HU that can support steering wheel control buttons?

Please advice. Thanks
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Change HU first also can. Just change and see if you like it, if not, then proceed to speakers.
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post Mar 20 2012, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Mar 20 2012, 03:58 PM)
Change HU first also can. Just change and see if you like it, if not, then proceed to speakers.
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a combo of HU + component set is my recommendation, however if there is further budget constraint, start with the HU first smile.gif

can take it step by step, no need to rush biggrin.gif
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post Mar 20 2012, 05:50 PM

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I think better HU + component set ...can really hear the changes coz sometime HU alone dont hear much difference
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post Mar 20 2012, 05:57 PM

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p80rs, the rest , sound proof
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post Mar 20 2012, 07:18 PM

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A good hu and normal component set first if your budget is limited~
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post Mar 20 2012, 08:00 PM

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The HU of course wanna change it but I worried whether the new HU can support my steering wheel control buttons? That my concern. I dont want to lose my buttons control.


Added on March 20, 2012, 8:04 pm
QUOTE(tHe^CuLpRit @ Mar 20 2012, 03:27 PM)
depends on your budget. You'll need at least RM3k if you want to change the HU, get a decent component set, a 4-chan amp and a sub.

You can setup so the back speakers only drive the mids (driven by HU) and get the amp to power the component set+subs.

Might want to consider sound proofing too, at least the front door. Don't bother with hood/firewall unless you have the cash to spend.
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Actually as per your suggested.... I want to put a 4 channel amp but to driven all my front and rear speaker and another amp just to give a kick to my sub drool.gif

For the sound proofing, later got budget sure do one... biggrin.gif


Added on March 20, 2012, 8:06 pm
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 20 2012, 04:24 PM)
a combo of HU + component set is my recommendation, however if there is further budget constraint, start with the HU first smile.gif

can take it step by step, no need to rush biggrin.gif
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Yeap!! Agreed with u bro... No need to rush coz when I drive my car always rush one biggrin.gif


Added on March 20, 2012, 8:08 pm
QUOTE(newtoapple @ Mar 20 2012, 05:50 PM)
I think better HU + component set ...can really hear the changes coz sometime HU alone dont hear much difference
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At the first place Yes!! But I worried soon 'kena racun' kaw kaw with the shop taukeh then cry.gif


Added on March 20, 2012, 8:10 pm
QUOTE(Johnix @ Mar 20 2012, 05:57 PM)
p80rs, the rest , sound proof
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But have to pair with a good speaker right??

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post Mar 20 2012, 09:12 PM

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Steering wheel control button can retain or not im not sure, it think is depends on hu gua? blush.gif cause my ride don't have steering wheel button blush.gif

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post Mar 20 2012, 09:47 PM

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Changing HU first because most of the drivers like to add in USB or iPod/iPad features.

You definitely will hear the difference already, Saga HU is really just not nice.

As for the steering functions, I think it is not a big issue. Vendors have come up with interface for your steering control to continue to work.

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post Mar 20 2012, 09:49 PM

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get a proper component fix first to have the best effect smile.gif
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post Mar 20 2012, 11:28 PM

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My 2cents worth.
All your budget dump on a decent set of component speakers+decent 4cha amp & decent wirings. (sub+mono if your wallet allows too)
If no difference compare to your current stock, I swallow your 4 tyres+spare tyre. Lol!
HU alone don't do much. Even if you go for ODR with the rest on OEM.
I've tried P99 driving OEM, will fall asleep while driving..

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post Mar 21 2012, 12:11 AM

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p99 got no internal amp how to drive oem speaker?
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post Mar 21 2012, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(howiechoo @ Mar 21 2012, 12:11 AM)
p99 got no internal amp how to drive oem speaker?
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So to speak, when replace HU, it's a MUST to purchase amp together or else can't drive any component???
Wow! Then sales is easy, have to come in package?
In that case, I reckon P99 is not a user friendly HU.

So which are the few that has build in amp? Then purchase those HU don't have to install amps anymore save alot of $..

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post Mar 21 2012, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(Prince of Darkness @ Mar 20 2012, 11:28 PM)
My 2cents worth.
All your budget dump on a decent set of component speakers+decent 4cha amp & decent wirings. (sub+mono if your wallet allows too)
If no difference compare to your current stock, I swallow your 4 tyres+spare tyre. Lol!
HU alone don't do much. Even if you go for ODR with the rest on OEM.
I've tried P99 driving OEM, will fall asleep while driving..
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The P99 is out of my budget (RM4XXX) sweat.gif and not very keen it to stay in Saga... Better it stay in beemer or others continental cars biggrin.gif Another thing, is very2 dangerous one if fall asleep while driving.. sweat.gif


Added on March 21, 2012, 8:44 am
QUOTE(howiechoo @ Mar 21 2012, 12:11 AM)
p99 got no internal amp how to drive oem speaker?
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If I not mistaken all HU can drive the speaker n components but have to pair with suitable ones.. Even my another car HU ie JVC can easily pump my blaupunkt speaker without amp and can tapau my Saga stock audio. But of course if sub woofer sure have to put amp liou.


Added on March 21, 2012, 8:46 am
QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Mar 20 2012, 09:47 PM)
As for the steering functions, I think it is not a big issue. Vendors have come up with interface for your steering control to continue to work.

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I tried to ask google on that but still failed. Can u suggest a few?? Thanks icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Mar 21 2012, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Prince of Darkness @ Mar 21 2012, 08:37 AM)
In that case, I reckon P99 is not a user friendly HU.
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most high end HUs dont have internal amp, what we call pure decks. its still user friendly, coz the users are high end SQ kakis, they dont want the internal amp and dont need the internal amp, so manufacturers produce what was demanded by this market segement.

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QUOTE(geniuz @ Mar 21 2012, 08:39 AM)

I tried to ask google on that but still failed. Can u suggest a few?? Thanks  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Something like this, not necessary this.

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QUOTE(Prince of Darkness @ Mar 21 2012, 08:37 AM)
So to speak, when replace HU, it's a MUST to purchase amp together or else can't drive any component???
Wow! Then sales is easy, have to come in package?
In that case, I reckon P99 is not a user friendly HU.

So which are the few that has build in amp? Then purchase those HU don't have to install amps anymore save alot of $..
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dude, if u talk like this, i really doubt u use p99 to pair with oem spk or not lor....if u vener done that pls dun misleading other icers...

do google what is pure deck before u consider using p99 to use with oem spk lor....


Added on March 21, 2012, 2:20 pm
QUOTE(geniuz @ Mar 21 2012, 08:39 AM)

If I not mistaken all HU can drive the speaker n components but have to pair with suitable ones.. Even my another car HU ie JVC can easily pump my blaupunkt  speaker without amp and can tapau my Saga stock audio. But of course if sub woofer sure have to put amp liou.
google what is pure deck to know more......

This post has been edited by howiechoo: Mar 21 2012, 02:20 PM
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post Mar 21 2012, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(howiechoo @ Mar 20 2012, 09:49 PM)
get a proper component fix first to have the best effect smile.gif
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For example, the rm499 "hertz" from brother? biggrin.gif sweat.gif doh.gif


Added on March 21, 2012, 7:42 pm
QUOTE(Prince of Darkness @ Mar 21 2012, 08:37 AM)
So to speak, when replace HU, it's a MUST to purchase amp together or else can't drive any component???
Wow! Then sales is easy, have to come in package?
In that case, I reckon P99 is not a user friendly HU.

So which are the few that has build in amp? Then purchase those HU don't have to install amps anymore save alot of $..
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Build in amp? 9887 ? I am very sure this can drive a component, way better then stock hu (of course after tuning) laugh.gif

if you're not a hardcore ice player~ just go for those low-priced hu like sony(two hundred something have aux-in already icon_rolleyes.gif with build in amp rclxm9.gif ) and some"budget" speaker like ameron, mohawk.. Sure you'll feel the difference from stock units d~ laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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post Mar 21 2012, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(howiechoo @ Mar 21 2012, 02:18 PM)
dude, if u talk like this, i really doubt u use p99 to pair with oem spk or not lor....if u vener done that pls dun misleading other icers...

do google what is pure deck before u consider using p99 to use with oem spk lor....
Care to share why is that so that if everything in my car is in stock condition and I just change the P99 HU alone, what will happen? Not workable?
In short, get those HU with "in-build amp" so in future don't have to waste $ for adding amps anymore?

Which phrase of mine makes you say that I'm misleading others?
I'm just sharing(if free speech is allow) the result of changing a HU 1st pairing with OEM speakers - can fall asleep...
Rather i suggest to replace speakers+amps+wirings as 1st step, then HU subsequently, follow by SP and etc.

Puredeck? Hmm.. If I can recaps, processer is build in instead of external?

Not a pro here and hence pls correct me if I'm wrong.
No offense, I wish to learn too.

Cheers!


Added on March 21, 2012, 8:17 pm
QUOTE(will92 @ Mar 21 2012, 07:22 PM)
For example, the rm499 "hertz" from brother?  biggrin.gif  sweat.gif  doh.gif


Added on March 21, 2012, 7:42 pm
Build in amp? 9887 ? I am very sure this can drive a component, way better then stock hu (of course after tuning) laugh.gif

if you're not a hardcore ice player~ just go for those low-priced hu like sony(two hundred something have aux-in already icon_rolleyes.gif with build in amp rclxm9.gif ) and some"budget" speaker like ameron, mohawk.. Sure you'll feel the difference from stock units d~  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Understood and had been through..
Is 9887 with build in amp? Heard the imprint is good?

Nah, I'm just a normal user. My products used are normal ones.
Infact, I'm using one of the cheap range ameron component set. Silver cone material w/o the branding printed on the speakers. $900 which I felt... Haiz! No point crying over spilled milk.

Btw, ever heard of Rave product? Thought of trying thou..

This post has been edited by Prince of Darkness: Mar 21 2012, 09:36 PM

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