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 Proton PrevĂ© V2, Drive it to Believe it

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post Mar 31 2012, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Mar 31 2012, 03:58 PM)
frm the elantra thread seems tht the test drive of the 1.6 is quite disappointing. they say underpower very badly.
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No tebo ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 31 2012, 04:05 PM)
No tebo ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
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?? unsure.gif no understand..
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Mar 31 2012, 04:08 PM)
?? unsure.gif no understand..
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He means no turbo to kick in more power. 1.6 engine isn't enough to carry Elantra body which resulting underpower issue.
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QUOTE(-cmi- @ Mar 31 2012, 04:15 PM)
He means no turbo to kick in more power. 1.6 engine isn't enough to carry Elantra body which resulting underpower issue.
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doh.gif silly me for nt catching tht laugh.gif
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post Mar 31 2012, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Mar 31 2012, 03:58 PM)
frm the elantra thread seems tht the test drive of the 1.6 is quite disappointing. they say underpower very badly.
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Imagine Preve 1.6 NA will be more underpower than Elantra 1.6. Proton should just keep 1 NA variant instead of 2. Sure cannot sell those NA Preve.
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post Mar 31 2012, 04:27 PM

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yup...same 1.6 but no turbo
but need to see how much elantra weight 1st and preve's weight to see the power to weight ratio to determine underpower or not
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post Mar 31 2012, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Mar 31 2012, 04:16 PM)
doh.gif silly me for nt catching tht laugh.gif
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laugh.gif laugh.gif C'mon man, you alwaz hangout at the Waja thread but dunno what tebo is tongue.gif tongue.gif

The Elantra should be slightly lighter than the P321.
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post Mar 31 2012, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Mar 31 2012, 04:19 PM)
Imagine Preve 1.6 NA will be more underpower than Elantra 1.6. Proton should just keep 1 NA variant instead of 2.  Sure cannot sell those NA Preve.
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I think they still can sell that NA variant due to affordability issue but more people will complain about underpower prob.
This isn't good for Proton overall brand image.
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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 31 2012, 04:34 PM)
laugh.gif  laugh.gif C'mon man, you alwaz hangout at the Waja thread but dunno what tebo is  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

The Elantra should be slightly lighter than the P321.
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If that's the case then for those people that is gonna buy Preve without the CFE Turbo, THey gonna face more underpower issue compared to Elantra
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post Mar 31 2012, 05:06 PM

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underpower will result in higher FC is it?
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post Mar 31 2012, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Mar 31 2012, 05:06 PM)
underpower will result in higher FC is it?
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Yes.
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QUOTE(valence @ Mar 31 2012, 03:33 PM)
imo, if front lower skirt in black will better  hmm.gif
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this bright red really stands out, i like the rims

edit: hmm you are right maybe better looking if black on the lower skirt, front , and i wanna see the back bumper with diffuser.

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post Mar 31 2012, 05:29 PM

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Also bear in mind, other than being lighter than the Preve, Elantra's 1.6 Gamma MPI engine also outperforms the Campro 1.6 IAFM+

Gamma MPI - 128hp @ 6000 RPM, 157Nm @ 4,300 RPM
Campro IAFM+ - 108hp @ 5750 RPM, 150Nm @ 4,000 RPM

where as

Campro CPS - 125hp @ 6500 RPM, 150Nm @ 4500 RPM

So yeah, the IAFM+ variant will probably be pretty underpowered.
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post Mar 31 2012, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 31 2012, 05:29 PM)
Also bear in mind, other than being lighter than the Preve, Elantra's 1.6 Gamma MPI engine also outperforms the Campro 1.6 IAFM+

Gamma MPI - 128hp @ 6000 RPM, 157Nm @ 4,300 RPM
Campro IAFM+ - 108hp @ 5750 RPM, 150Nm @ 4,000 RPM

where as

Campro CPS - 125hp @ 6500 RPM, 150Nm @ 4500 RPM

So yeah, the IAFM+ variant will probably be pretty underpowered.
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but 1 uses 6 speed and 1 uses CVT
it will be underpower but it won't feel underpower due to CVT's smoothness
but the 6 "actual" gear...u will feel underpower
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post Mar 31 2012, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 31 2012, 05:32 PM)
but 1 uses 6 speed and 1 uses CVT
it will be underpower but it won't feel underpower due to CVT's smoothness
but the 6 "actual" gear...u will feel underpower
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That remains to be seen.

And why the heck does Proton's 1.6 Campro has so low hp compared to other 1.6 engines?? vmad.gif vmad.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 31 2012, 04:34 PM)
laugh.gif  laugh.gif C'mon man, you alwaz hangout at the Waja thread but dunno what tebo is  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

The Elantra should be slightly lighter than the P321.
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i havent had my lunch tht time.. i was thinking wat no tebu.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 31 2012, 05:48 PM)
That remains to be seen.

And why the heck does Proton's 1.6 Campro has so low hp compared to other 1.6 engines??  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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outdated engine is like that
those korean engine are way newer
thats why campro need a replacement which will come 2015
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post Mar 31 2012, 06:10 PM

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preve CFE only output 138hp (103kw)
so does it consider as average output?

the elantra 1.8, i was quite impress with it. was thinking of topping up to get it.
coz my colleagues say "proton ah? why not get vios? why not get import car?"

edit: 1.8 elantra output 148hp...

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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Mar 31 2012, 06:10 PM)
preve CFE only output 138hp (103kw)
so does it consider as average output?

the elantra 1.8, i was quite impress with it. was thinking of topping up to get it.
coz my colleagues say "proton ah? why not get vios? why not get import car?"
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If you care too much with your colleague perception, the only choice left is only Honda and Toyota.
But those car especially Toyota always come with lame spec. So it really depend with your personal preferences.
Anyway if you plan to top up for Elantra 1.8, i don't think it fair to compare with Preve. Price different is just too much.
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post Mar 31 2012, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Mar 31 2012, 06:10 PM)
preve CFE only output 138hp (103kw)
so does it consider as average output?

the elantra 1.8, i was quite impress with it. was thinking of topping up to get it.
coz my colleagues say "proton ah? why not get vios? why not get import car?"

edit: 1.8 elantra output 201hp...
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the CFE focus mostly on torque(pickup)..not HP(top speed)
pickup fast is more important than going higher top speed...how fast can u go actually when the road is full of corners/turns
plus..top speed on exora already proven can go 200KM/H ++
topping up for elantra?...thats quite a BIG topup isn't it?
and ask your colleague..whats go great abt vios?....4AT?...great FC?..pretty much thats it...no improvement whatsoever in many years
and it cost 91k for that vios somemore
ask him to drive the preve and say again

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