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post May 8 2012, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(jezz12 @ May 7 2012, 08:51 PM)
Hi, I wanna ask the Jazz hybrid owner, is it true that the car can be driven like a normal 1.3 car if the hybrid function is switched off? Does it mean that the car runs solely on engine without using the battery? Or does it still runs with battery even with the ECON function is off? Anyone can explain?  icon_question.gif Thanks!
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visit honda insight forum.
u wil find out more info...

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2200771
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post May 16 2012, 12:54 PM

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PROPOSAL FOR AN OFFICIAL FORUM FOR OUR HONDA HYBRIDS.


I do not have the knowledge to build an official forum.
I would like to suggest, whoever is capable to do this, I think is a good Idea to have an official forum for our honda hybrids to have a official forum. Insight, Jazz Hybrid and CRZ. All in one official Forums. This is a good way to communicates, discussion, trouble shoots and ETC...
Suggestion:

www.hybrids-ima.com.my
www.hondahybrid.com.my

What do you think?



LYN HONDA INSIGHT Owners V5
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2200771

LYN Honda Jazz Hybrid Official Thread V1°°, Naturally Fun Jazzy Hybrid
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2264090

LYN Honda CRZ Hybrid Owners Thread V1 °°, The Hot-Hatch Hybrid
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2094804

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post May 16 2012, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(gid @ May 16 2012, 02:06 PM)
the idea is good.. but when talk about contribution, i guess insight member is doing very well.
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I don't mind to share the fees if we have enough members to support this forum. just need someone who is capable to built this forum and we will have moderator, admin, webmaster and etc.....just like how other forum...
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post May 16 2012, 03:53 PM

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Hm..but facebook in not so practical.
is it better to have a proper sections so ppl wont have a repeated questions and answers. Easy for reader to search for specific topics.

examples sections:-

-General Discussion
-Engine & Performance Modifications
-Exterior Styling & Bodywork
-Wheels, Suspension & Tyres
-Interior Modifications, Security Gadgets & Other Gizmos
-ICE Cold Modifications
-Technical Discussion and Issues
-DIY Projects

another problem, some work place cant access to facebook, like my ofice sad.gif

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post May 18 2012, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(MetalMic @ May 18 2012, 02:46 PM)
Thanks bro.. smile.gif

At this moment, love the driving feel of the car...its Peaceful.. smile.gif

The tyres felt bit slippery though maybe coz its not run in yet.
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Define your slippery incident. Your current tyre is micheline xm1. Good tyre.
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post May 18 2012, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(Achilles @ May 18 2012, 06:04 PM)
why petrol version is giving 185/55 but hybrid giving 175/65? which one is better? I assume 185 is better but what is the different?
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a basic knowledge
the faster a car can go, the wider and bigger tire require. jazz hybrid is lower horse power, and fuel economy. so a smaller and lighter tire is require to archived better fuel saving.

u can change to 185/55, just u will loose abit of fuel saving and slight better handling.

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post May 18 2012, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(Achilles @ May 18 2012, 06:31 PM)
I see.. but the SA told me actually hybrid is equvailent to 1.5l, with IMA, is that true? I remember I tried to google around before I bought the car and somewhere said the same too.. but I can feel pick up is a bit slow, not sure about petrol version.
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no matter what the SA said, the horse power is still smaller than 1.5. A head to head race, jazz hybrid will loose to 1.5 jazz. The whole idea of hybird car is for environment friendly and drive normal to achieved good fuel consumption.

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post May 18 2012, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(Achilles @ May 18 2012, 06:45 PM)
even change to non econ mode?
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lets put it this way, 1.3 + ima, is good enough for daily drive, out station, or even going up genting. u can travel top speed up to 160km/h or even more than that. so no worries on comparing with 1.5 jazz
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post May 23 2012, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(mojo-jojo @ May 23 2012, 12:16 PM)
ya another thing i notice when took deliver of new car ,  remember check the tyre pressure is at the right PSI , mine is @ 280 PSI for all 4 wheels ! , and i only realize it ystd , haizz now dunno got dmg the tyres or not, been driving for 3 weeks liao.

also notice the rattle sound seems to dampen abit , after adjust the pressure to 230/220, will ask honda service center see if they can do anything about it or not. .
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Don't confuse readers. U mean 230KPA and not PSI. standard psi pressure is 32 or 33 PSI.

IF 230 PSI, tire can't take that pressure.
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post May 23 2012, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(kenz002 @ May 23 2012, 02:23 PM)
Am considering whether to get a Jazz Hybrid or a new FL honda city.

In terms of spacious and comfort of the ride what do u guys think? Put aside performance.
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ok..
jazz fully imported from japan, tax free, its a bargain.
check the price of insight, crz or other hybrid cars in singapore. it cost a bomb.

hybrid safe fuel.

honda city fl, local assemble. nothing much to be wow about. but u have bigger space especially boot space. fuel consumption, not as good as hybrid, but better than other cars.

if space and performance is not a problem for u, then jazz hybrid is the choice.
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post May 23 2012, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(kenz002 @ May 23 2012, 05:11 PM)
Test-ed drive Jazz and not too bad afterall. The car may look small but as spacious as city inside i feel.

And one thing good is the height. Yea but too bad the boot space is very limited.

Hows the waiting list currently? Any idea?
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jazz hybrid or city?
city launching june or july and delivery aug or sept
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post May 25 2012, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(xweird @ May 25 2012, 06:56 PM)
Yes but no stock! Crazy!
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Did they loan u their company car while your car in the service centre waiting for the stock?
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post Jun 6 2012, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(ecjl @ Jun 6 2012, 02:04 PM)
I thought it's automatically charged during the ride?
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What he meant was force recharged. By performing this to have your ima full charge. Rav it at 2.5k or 3k, u will see the regen charging the ima. When its fully charge, the regen stop and u will see your ima battery in full.

It was advise to perform force recharge once in awhile to keep your ima in good shape. Found out about this from insight central forum. I trust these guys and have well experience in Ima. They have been around since the first generation insight in 1999.
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post Jun 26 2012, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(xweird @ Jun 25 2012, 10:29 PM)
Something weird after the repair: when engage in D gear, the car doesn't creep forward. At the slightest slope the car will roll backwards unless I press the gas pedal. Anyone else experiencing the same thing? I thought jazz hybrid supposed to have hill start assist function? Could it be after repair my car got problem?
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i think most of the jazz hybrid and insight, owners are new to CVT. Its normal the car will roll back even on a slight slope. U need to press the brake hard to activate the hill start assist. But even if its a very steep slope, with the hill start assist, the car will still roll back. If encounter this, just pull the handbrake.

Previous honda city with CVT, doesnt come with hill start assist, so have to use handbrake when ever come to a slope..

so its normal, nothing wrong with ur jazz hybrid
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post Jun 26 2012, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(xweird @ Jun 26 2012, 12:20 PM)
Hi. I read from Insight forum also to press brake hard enough. Is this the expected behaviour?

Other than the ECU they also replaced for me entire transmission box. So I wonder is it because the box haven't warm up?


Added on June 26, 2012, 12:21 pm
Thanks for the assurance bro. So CVT behaviour is different from normal AT in this aspect?
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Yup CVT Is totally different from AT. Good and bad about CVT.

GOOD
Fuel saving
Good for cruising
Smooth gears
Fast pick up

Bad
Expensive to maintain
Expensive gear box cost more than 10k
Change CVTF every 20k
Low top end (meaning low in top speed)
CVT not meant for high raving and not meant for top speed.
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post Jun 26 2012, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(gid @ Jun 26 2012, 04:25 PM)
the Force we need to apply...
Answer:
One formula for force is Newton's Second Law of Motion: Force = Mass * Acceleration or F = ma

On the earth's surface, F=mg
where
F= weight
m= mass
g= acceleration due to gravity

In fact, force is the rate of change of momentum and is given by:
F = dp/dt

where p is momentum.
F = dp/dt can be expanded to F = v(dm/dt) + m(dv/dt)

where m is mass, v is velocity.
F = m(dv/dt) = ma. This is for constant mass.
F = v(dm/dt) is used when velocity is constant but mass is changing.
In Short, i think it is better to go in to the car and step on it biggrin.gif
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what?
anyway xweird, just step on the brake like how u step on the brake to stop at the traffic light while waiting for it to go green.

try it on a slope. stop the car like how u brake. once car fully stop, apply slightly more pressure on the brake. then let go of the brake. the hill start activated. ur car wont roll back. remember if the slope is too steep, it will still roll back.
even a conventional 5speed AT will roll back if in a steep slope.

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post Jun 26 2012, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(xweird @ Jun 26 2012, 05:55 PM)
using S gear will "disable" Auto Stop from engaging. Anyone can verify this?
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yes correct
u can learn allot more about our ima car ay insight forum
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2200771

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post Jun 26 2012, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(noobling @ Jun 26 2012, 06:08 PM)
haha good reply!


Added on June 26, 2012, 6:09 pm
haha, but this is one of the features of the car to save fuel no?
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If constantly off on off on at traffic jam is bad for your car and bad fuel saving. Eventually u r using more fuel

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post Jun 27 2012, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(noobling @ Jun 27 2012, 11:10 AM)
what logic is that?if hybrid cars consume more petrol with auto stop feature, why put it in the first place?

love to hear your logic on this.
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The auto stop is designed to stop for a period of time. With Econ ON it stop for 90 seconds and Econ Off stop around 10 to 15 seconds. This function is good when stop at traffic light or at a turning junction. If u are caught in a heavy traffic that requires u to move 2 to 3 feet every few seconds and ur engine going off on off on, not only it consume more fuel, it is bad for ur engine mounting, gear box mounting and wear and tear parts. Now, why is honda hybrid cars are recommended to use no lesser than semi- syntactic oil and cant use mineral oil like the non hybrid honda cars use. It is to protect the wear and tear issue that honda hybrid generates more compare to non hybrid cars.

Why I said it consume more fuel, with frequently on off on off for example on off for 10 times within 10seconds and your car rev meter going from 0 to 800 or 1k for 10 times rather than staying at 600 rev give or take in 10 seconds. Technically you are revving your engine for the 10 seconds. Now how is that does not consume more fuel? Not to forget it drains the IMA battery quickly because it uses IMA battery to kick start the engine. Basically you are kick starting your car engine 10 times in 10 seconds. If that is not enough, I have tested myself with same journey, same traffic. It does make a big different. So my advice when u face this, shift the gear to (S) to disable the auto stop.

From your reply, I realized that you only aware that the Auto stop is the only feature in Honda IMA Hybrid for fuel efficient? There are more than that. The exterior, the aerodynamic shape of the car. Newly design engine and tuned for more fuel efficiency integrated with Econ mode guide and with IMA assist system. The car will perform fuel saving the minute you start driving. The ECU is automatically set IMA when to assist, to charge, drive only EV or EV and petrol together or petrol only.

U can always google HONDA IMA HYBRID
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post Jun 27 2012, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(ecjl @ Jun 27 2012, 04:35 PM)
So, would a spoiler make the aerodynamics better/worse/no different(aesthetic)? Because I am considering on putting on one.
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An spoiler is useful for high performance car where u drive fast and fast cornering. It creates a down force pressure when going top speed. It helps allot in turning in a tight corner in high speed without sliding of the track.

As for our car a conventional car, daily drive, driving below 200kmh, a spoiler is just for looks. So no impact in fuel consumption.

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