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 AS1M/ASM/ASW2020/ASN/ASB and other PNB funds V3, lending your money to the government

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doneright
post Jan 4 2013, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(cannavaro @ Jan 4 2013, 03:11 PM)
Quick question.
I took a 50k ASB loan from Maybank back in 2008 or 2009 (10 years term). Now I can afford to pay off the loan (about 30k remaining, current interest is 5.6%).

As far as I know it is better to settle the loan, but I've been getting different answers from the few people that I talked to about this (just small talk nothing deep)... one side agrees with me while the other says it's better if I just top up my ASB instead of paying off the loan because I'd get higher dividends...  hmm.gif
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some people dont like to have debt. but some also think good debt is not a bad thing at all...

the best if to calculate both scenario. then you'd be making a choice backed by fact rather than by emotion smile.gif

my 2 cents
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post Jan 5 2013, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(fahrur_07 @ Jan 4 2013, 09:17 PM)
i have 14k
i plan to use it on march this year for car downpayment
better to put it in ASB or fixed deposit?
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what are the terms of your car loan? can you pay now and if so, will it help you save on interest?

if you plan to use in march, then fixed deposit is good. no point going for asb as its a fixed price investment

or better still, clear your credit card debt. that is one of the best investment you can make

my 2 cents
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post Jan 7 2013, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(duncan880409 @ Jan 6 2013, 12:56 PM)
Greeting folks !
Stupid question here, lets say I have 10k of any of the PNB share, then the dividend rate is 6.5 cent/share, meaning i have RM650.
Meaning after 1 year, I got RM10650 in my acc.. Lets say second year have another 6 cent/share dividend, will this dividend on first year (RM650) get dividend (RM650(or 650units of share, assuming RM1 each) get this 6 cent second year dividend?
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jan 6 2013, 12:58 PM)
yes, same as the Saving and FD account.
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yes, it should work the same. second year dividend (example 6%) will be given based on your 'new' capital: RM10650 smile.gif

for fixed price funds, you dont make any gains from unit price movement (since there is no movement)
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post Feb 4 2013, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(zephyrus9999 @ Feb 3 2013, 05:09 PM)
I think i put 40k in asg, divided to kesihatan and pendidikan. Dont know why the bear such weird names lol.. Assuming return is 6.5% constant per year, i calculated in my spredsheet i will breakeven in ~2 years time..

Also I am wondering is there any fraud cases involved in PNB funds before? Sometimes its too good to be true extra 3% compared to fd without risks
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the bold part, should be careful smile.gif

i'm not writing another post to slate PNB funds, but just sharing my opinion

common perception of risk is to lose money after a period of investment

but many dont realize you can lose money the moment you decide on investing

FD is the best example...

when you put money in FD, you get the comfort of getting 3% return after a period of time. most people are comfortable with that. simply put, to them, they earn 3%. simple

one can look at it from another angle - you dont make 3%, you actually straight away lose 8%, 10% or 20% - depend on which investment vehicle you compare it to. i personally would modestly look at it as a straight away lost of 7% because i compare it with a moderate risk dividend paying fund

to me FD is the worst kind of INVESTMENT

as for PNB funds, some like it, some dont.
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post Apr 17 2013, 01:58 PM

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for those who are either dont know, ignorant or simply stupid. when are you going to wake up and take control of your $? smile.gif
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post Apr 17 2013, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Apr 15 2013, 12:43 PM)
Even if PR becomes the Govt, the PNB will still be around to "ponzi" us
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how to save PNB? no overnight miracle. it will take years of smart investing for PNB to repair itself...

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