also i fed them with algae wafer but usually the yamato will take it first and hide
will try to squeeze in 3 SAE later this weekend. both SAE and otto price rm2 here in JB. but yamato a bit expensive, rm3 each
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May 18 2012, 08:41 AM
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i've 3 ottos in my 350mm tank. seems ok, not so crowded. and i fed them with normal fish pellet and also betta fish pellet. they manage to swim till the surface to get the food.
also i fed them with algae wafer but usually the yamato will take it first and hide will try to squeeze in 3 SAE later this weekend. both SAE and otto price rm2 here in JB. but yamato a bit expensive, rm3 each |
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May 18 2012, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ May 18 2012, 09:39 AM) which shop? haven seen ottos for a while. my LFS here never stock it... you went to New Oasis before right? i got it from there. so i only use pleco to go the algae cleaning... got 2 for my 4ft tank... not enough hiding place for them though... QUOTE(kurangak @ May 18 2012, 09:50 AM) our brother jctasoga here is in Johor la... QUOTE(shinshishio @ May 18 2012, 09:48 AM) LOL QUOTE(shinshishio @ May 18 2012, 09:48 AM) wow.. RM 3.50 yeah.. sensitive vacuum cleaner HUH... IINM, kurangak also try to breed otto before but failed.. maybe you can share the secret cause i read somewhere, otto is diificult to breed QUOTE(shinshishio @ May 18 2012, 09:48 AM) force them to hungry, and them try drop a slice of already boiled cucumber. they may not interest as long as her daily meal a.k.a algae still available. try it. hope it works for you i prefered kangkung rebus |
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May 18 2012, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ May 18 2012, 10:39 AM) no worries everyone.. you have to ask for it. i also didnt notice it at first..new oasis got ah? I look high and low but maybe missed it. then again to carry them 2 hrs back to BP.. a bit the long drive for them.. ahahaha... i wanted to get some more plants actually... but nvm lah... bring together a battery operate air pump if you afraid it will die. shouldnt be a prob |
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May 18 2012, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ May 18 2012, 02:47 PM) i'm going there tomorrow.. want to get some e tenellus for my crypt tank..QUOTE(shinshishio @ May 18 2012, 08:11 PM) additional ugly pict for those who keep pm-ed me to show this setup at earlier stage base from my previous low tech tank. quoted..» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 4 weeks tank..see i told you. im the lazy one there. even fallen thermometer, i just ignored it. that black-sticking thing on the glass is DIY magnet scrapper. ok.you can laugh at me for those american liberty statue » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « love this pict bakc then. sneaking for food. accompany me tomorrow then? going AE midvalley so jealous seeing your riccia pearling.. make me want to rob it from you |
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May 19 2012, 08:04 AM
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QUOTE(deric79k @ May 18 2012, 09:20 PM) Jalan-jalan cari pokokQUOTE(jctasoga @ May 18 2012, 09:41 PM) my local pets shop qian hu is moving store. store owner said they are going to deplete the aquatic stocks at 10-50% depending on products. some are the filters / medication / sera (at 10-30% off) etc. the eheim normally already on sales (nation wide including kl also got this offer) also available i think 2213 or 2215 is rm400++. can you please survey the price of lighting for 350mm tank?? thx. btw, why must you come JB on monday??anyone looking for some hardware can let me know wat u guys wanna check out. a lot of arcadia lights but still expensive... rm81++ for the 4ft lights... i targetting the 2227 filter... but rm13xx Added on May 18, 2012, 9:43 pm next time ya brother... maybe monday go to JB hehehe... me working lorr.. haishh QUOTE(shinshishio @ May 19 2012, 07:55 AM) nice photo....This post has been edited by kimimaro_kun: May 19 2012, 08:08 AM |
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May 19 2012, 08:19 AM
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QUOTE(sang gemok @ May 19 2012, 08:12 AM) Waalaikumussalam and morning to you SGEarly morning, already got plan huh.. QUOTE(shinshishio @ May 19 2012, 08:13 AM) me blur in the morning..come again??? QUOTE(LuQEE @ May 19 2012, 08:15 AM) bro, still packing up my gear.. jangan sampai putus kawan, pasal berebut DW... huhuif ure still going on ure plan, i want to come la.. but have to go home at 3pm, because i need to go fro my trip |
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May 19 2012, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ May 19 2012, 09:34 AM) kimi : 350mm = 1ft++ wats ur budget? need 1 x 11w enough? what is the light power u need? since it's on sale, so i'm targeting below rm50..Added on May 19, 2012, 9:36 amwah u all really going natural ah... hehe... 1 x 11w confirm not enough. my glosso wont creep. now itself i'm using a 15w energy saving spiral bulb equivalent to 75w. but some said, the plant is so clever. they dont bother either it energy saving or not. they just grow based on the 15w only, not 75w.. |
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May 19 2012, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ May 19 2012, 02:02 PM) hahaha... 75w is halogen la.. for me, if the plant is pearling and doing ok, i won't change the conditions with co2 / light / ferts etc. But.. But.. Mine never pearling. Seeing the glooso creeping already make me happy. Dont know how i'll react if my plant pearl.. Huhu |
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May 19 2012, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(LuQEE @ May 20 2012, 02:27 PM) gah~ maybe because of this, i didnt see my plant pearling. my photoperiod is the same time with my working hours..update, SAE still survives from being eaten from my oscar. now looking for big retired SAE. btw, IMHO, pearling depends on your plants, ligthing and your O2 level in your water. the more saturate the o2 level in your water, the easier/faster it will pearl. thats why you dont have instant pearling in the morning. btw, just got myself 3 SAE. this fish should be a peaceful fish right? only the flying fox quite aggressive.. QUOTE(jctasoga @ May 20 2012, 04:39 PM) thx jason.. back from jalan2 just now, just to find out that my light cable burn. lucky nothing else happen. but got some burnt mark at my glass.. FFffffuu.. now i'm just use the 11w clip on light. hope that enough for my plant to survive till my next pay day |
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ May 21 2012, 08:17 AM) got 3 pairs, all are adults already... each month at least 2 of the pairs will spawn. but usually i dun bother them. so next day they gulung tikar... eat their own eggs. yeah maybe today unable to travel liao... see how lah.. QUOTE(deric79k @ May 21 2012, 08:29 AM) i thought you having some anglefish business. then i would like to buy some from you..planted tank and anglefish can be together w/o issue right?? |
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QUOTE(shinshishio @ May 21 2012, 10:37 AM) got 14 cm sae at my father garden pond LOL..want for what? goreng for food stuff? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I think luqee want to put it together with his oscar. but again, the oscar will beat that SAE till death.. Why SAE so difficult to survive in my tank? before i bought 3 pcs, all die within 1 day. later i bought another 3, but 1 die already last night. shouldnt be water condition issue, as my other fish is doing alright. including the otto and yamato i bought together with SAe.... Added on May 21, 2012, 11:10 am QUOTE(flipmode @ May 21 2012, 11:06 AM) damn...too many pages to read...hahaha... maybe the secret is about the pisang kaki and yuzu theory^ nice tank you have there, shinshishio..got mini pelia too..but temperature is my problem...will relocate to office tank soon... This post has been edited by kimimaro_kun: May 21 2012, 11:10 AM |
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QUOTE(flipmode @ May 21 2012, 11:16 AM) aik..that kinda wierd..i think sae quite hardy one...how come it die in one day only..when i bought my SAE it only pencil size..after 3 month..become small marker pen size...hohoho.. thats why.. now just hoping that another 2 can survive.. cant tahan already, buying stuff than gonna die within 24hrs.inb4 QUOTE(Takashi Amano) "Without first loving the smallest creations, one can not claim to stand before Mother Nature." |
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QUOTE(shinshishio @ May 21 2012, 11:23 AM) flipmode food should be an issue i think.. there a lot of algae in my tank to be eaten..» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « sae? i think, acclimate problem. or not enough food? water parameter is the key for aclimate them. maybe you acclimate them by just controlling the temperature. not the water condition as well?? sae is not too difficult to keep in. unless there is not enough food and water parameters problem. just my 0.5 cents oscar? lol. my retired sae already trained to kill other fish. my red tailed shark inspire them to be more aggressive er.. its not pisang kaki. its khaki. its really looks like orange. but more yellowish maybe the prob is with the water parameter.. but still, otto and yamato still ok till now |
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WHO THE H*LL IS MARO????
i bought it at New Oasis, JB.. unfortunately, that the only place i can find SAE.. other LFS prefer to sell flying fox or CAE. but still, in JB, either it flying fox, SAE or CAE, they just call it flying fox. |
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QUOTE(shinshishio @ May 21 2012, 12:08 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « HAHAHA. lol. than, come kl so you can buy all things that u want how many buyer being cheated then? LOL. make a police report then. false selling item » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « go back to your house. your plant is pearling no point i go home now.. i did tell you right, my light burnt last night. now with 11w light (or is it 9w), i'll doubt the plant will pearl.. wait till i get my hand on my new light, will spam the thread with dozen of pearls This post has been edited by kimimaro_kun: May 21 2012, 12:43 PM |
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wow... didnt notice that..
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