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nnq
post Oct 15 2012, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(storm88 @ Oct 15 2012, 05:15 PM)
Rostock looks good to me too smile.gif
but i don't think can mod...
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Now, the dev trend is shifting to Rostock Max. Using aluminium extrusion for frame. Very interesting indeed.
Burgerlim
post Oct 20 2012, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(nnq @ Oct 15 2012, 08:44 PM)
Now, the dev trend is shifting to Rostock Max. Using aluminium extrusion for frame. Very interesting indeed.
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how much i wonder this printer is..
black_azim87
post Oct 31 2012, 05:10 PM

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Hye,i m new here,so i really need you guys help...

I own a Printrbot Plus n i assemble it already. I m using Slic3r n Pronterface,the problem is,when it start to print,it wont stick to the bed,i see that people use kapton tape n glass,is it really necessary?

I got a lot of question bcoz i m new to this world n i like to learn it very much,please help me...
nnq
post Oct 31 2012, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(black_azim87 @ Oct 31 2012, 05:10 PM)
Hye,i m new here,so i really need you guys help...

I own a Printrbot Plus n i assemble it already. I m using Slic3r n Pronterface,the problem is,when it start to print,it wont stick to the bed,i see that people use kapton tape n glass,is it really necessary?

I got a lot of question bcoz i m new to this world n i like to learn it very much,please help me...
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I am assuming you're using ABS, then yes it is necessary. Kapton + Glass + Heatbed at 110c. It will stick like glue. PLA just blue painters tape will work fine.

Good luck!
black_azim87
post Nov 1 2012, 10:02 AM

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Owh,today i will try n get those glass and that kapton tape,really appreciate it,thankz so much,anything i will update here n ask help from you guyz...
Burgerlim
post Nov 2 2012, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(black_azim87 @ Oct 31 2012, 05:10 PM)
Hye,i m new here,so i really need you guys help...

I own a Printrbot Plus n i assemble it already. I m using Slic3r n Pronterface,the problem is,when it start to print,it wont stick to the bed,i see that people use kapton tape n glass,is it really necessary?

I got a lot of question bcoz i m new to this world n i like to learn it very much,please help me...
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hi, there

I think if you go with glass+heater bed, there is no need of Kapton tape.. temperature is the key.. PLA sticks well on glass at about ~65, depending on your glass thickness and accuracy of your sensor.. with glass you get full flat surface at the base which tapes usually you will see joint lines..

HTH.
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post Nov 2 2012, 02:13 PM

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i personally would recommend apply Kaptoon Tape on heatbed.

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post Nov 2 2012, 04:23 PM

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ALright,now i have put the kapton bed and it stick! The problem now is the when i print it,the shape dosent follow the shape that i want,the output is beyond my expectation,can anyone help me coz i really dont know how to calibrate it using slic3r n pronterface...if can,i would like personal tutorial one on one with me...

REALLY NEED YOU GUYZ HELP...
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post Nov 2 2012, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(black_azim87 @ Nov 2 2012, 05:23 PM)
ALright,now i have put the kapton bed and it stick! The problem now is the when i print it,the shape dosent follow the shape that i want,the output is beyond my expectation,can anyone help me coz i really dont know how to calibrate it using slic3r n pronterface...if can,i would like personal tutorial one on one with me...

REALLY NEED YOU GUYZ HELP...
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can you upload the pic to this forum of your current printout?


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post Nov 2 2012, 06:19 PM

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So,basically,this is what happened,that thing actually stick to the board but i remove it,this is the shape of the CROCODILE but is not!!! Please really help me,i m quite a mess here coz i really zero knowledge bout it.

I also try to learn how to calibrate the x y and z axis but seriously,i don't get it how to do it.Then,i try also to learn from other forum but quite hard 4 me to understand it.

Im so sorry for my poor language in English..

Burgerlim
post Nov 2 2012, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(storm88 @ Nov 2 2012, 02:13 PM)
i personally would recommend apply Kaptoon Tape on heatbed.
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smile.gif agree, Kapton tape actually sticks better then glass most of the time and its closer to heat bed, your temperature gap is smaller.. i.e reading vs actual on surface... then there is this joint line issue on your model base...but is generally ok.

Hi, Storm,
do you add glass over after?


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QUOTE(black_azim87 @ Nov 2 2012, 06:19 PM)
user posted image
So,basically,this is what happened,that thing actually stick to the board but i remove it,this is the shape of the CROCODILE but is not!!! Please really help me,i m quite a mess here coz i really zero knowledge bout it.

I also try to learn how to calibrate the x y and z axis but seriously,i don't get it how to do it.Then,i try also to learn from other forum but quite hard 4 me to understand it.

Im so sorry for my poor language in English..
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Hi,

Slowly.... calibration is the key...
you might want to share which make are you using? typically you need to calibrate your firmware to your controller to make sure.. i.e. slicer move 10mm its physically move 10mm x,y and z..
then next is your extruder calibration.. though slicer could do compensation...
then last is your printhead offset from print bed.. typically you need to make sure they are very very level at all point! thus with glass or not will matter..

share more info.. smile.gif


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nnq
post Nov 2 2012, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(black_azim87 @ Nov 2 2012, 06:19 PM)
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So,basically,this is what happened,that thing actually stick to the board but i remove it,this is the shape of the CROCODILE but is not!!! Please really help me,i m quite a mess here coz i really zero knowledge bout it.

I also try to learn how to calibrate the x y and z axis but seriously,i don't get it how to do it.Then,i try also to learn from other forum but quite hard 4 me to understand it.

Im so sorry for my poor language in English..
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From the picture, here is my opinion.

First you need to get your bed level. Right now i see that you're printing directly on top of PCB with kapton tape on it. Well this is not a problem, but PCB is not flat for printing surface. Because of that you might accidentally dig your PCB with your nozzle and damage it. In my opinion you might want to put glass on top of your PCB heatbed and kapton over it. Better to be safe. A spring bed platform might help to level the bed and you dont have to use big clip. Just small clip to clip your PCB and the glass.

Secondly you might need to calibrate your stepper motor, so it move the distance equal to the amount of value you click on the host. I find that this Calibrationvideo really helpful. It gives the idea how to measure, calculate step/mm and keying in the firmware. You might want to have a look. The method is the same for sprinter or marlin firmware. You just have to key in the calculate value in the firmware.

Cheers.




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post Nov 15 2012, 04:31 PM

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post Nov 16 2012, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Nov 2 2012, 09:24 PM)
smile.gif agree, Kapton tape actually sticks better then glass most of the time and its closer to heat bed, your temperature gap is smaller.. i.e reading vs actual on surface...  then there is this joint line issue on your model base...but is generally ok.

Hi, Storm,
do you add glass over after?


Added on November 2, 2012, 8:30 pm

Hi,

Slowly.... calibration is the key...
you might want to share which make are you using? typically you need to calibrate your firmware to your controller to make sure.. i.e. slicer move 10mm its physically move 10mm x,y and z..
then next is your extruder calibration.. though slicer could do compensation...
then last is your printhead offset from print bed.. typically you need to make sure they are very very level at all point! thus with glass or not will matter..

share more info..    smile.gif
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Sorry

didnt saw your post
Applying Glass over after? sorry i dont get you
Burgerlim
post Nov 16 2012, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(storm88 @ Nov 16 2012, 01:14 PM)
Sorry

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Applying Glass over after? sorry i dont get you
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Hi,

I was referring to if you add glass layer on top of kapton taped head bed? wondering if this brings any benefits to printing?

Thanks...


black_azim87
post Nov 19 2012, 10:03 AM

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Hi there,to BURGERLIM,i think no need because i just put the kapton tape and the filament stick to it,but,make sure your heatbed is around 90 above...

So,my problem now is i dont know how to calibrate the printer,i am using slic3r and prontoface,is quite difficult for me to do it and understand it,can anyone teach me,if can,i would like to meet n learn it,coz i think i will understand it more like that but if not can anyone who manage to print to teach me...

REALLY NEED HELP!!!

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Burgerlim
post Dec 9 2012, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(black_azim87 @ Nov 19 2012, 10:03 AM)
Hi there,to BURGERLIM,i think no need because i just put the kapton tape and the filament stick to it,but,make sure your heatbed is around 90 above...

So,my problem now is i dont know how to calibrate the printer,i am using slic3r and prontoface,is quite difficult for me to do it and understand it,can anyone teach me,if can,i would like to meet n learn it,coz i think i will understand it more like that but if not can anyone who manage to print to teach me...

REALLY NEED HELP!!!

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Hi, Azim
not sure why i didnt get notification from your post. haaa..
Yes, typically u dont need kapton tape over glass.

for your calibration, it really depends on your setup.. ill suggest you start with just one host and make it work. though each of them will have its pros and cons. i.e slic3r not handling walls gap too well at this point at least.

you should also need to make sure your assembly is really good, level and stable... ill try pm you so could talk about this seperately.. ya.

thanks.
tanmat
post Dec 20 2012, 01:46 PM

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Are there any local suppliers where we can purchase GT2 belts?


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post Dec 20 2012, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(tanmat @ Dec 20 2012, 01:46 PM)
Are there any local suppliers where we can purchase GT2 belts?
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I got mine from Misumi Malaysia.
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post Dec 20 2012, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(nnq @ Dec 20 2012, 04:31 PM)
I got mine from Misumi Malaysia.
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Have to buy online or do you know if they have any shops that can just walk in and purchase? Need a replacement belt but cannot wait for the US supplier to ship it (too long)

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