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post Nov 30 2005, 01:02 PM, updated 20y ago

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To summarise :-

1) Subscribed to Streamyx online last week
2) By now TMnet assured jumpering already done . I have not activated yet , just wanted to test DSL signal first before activating.
3) However Aztech Modem 600EU does not show any DSL signal (not even a blinking one). Power light is on, Ethernet light is on.
4) Modem is not faulty. Tested it on someone else's Broadband enabled line. DSL light work.
5) No extensions used for my phone line, directly connected to wall socket.
6) Tried both with a splitter/microfilter and without one. Still no signal.
7) Complained to Tmnet but they insist and confirmed jumpering already done correctly.

So the big question. What am I supposed to do next?

This is the first time I am subscribing to any Broadband service, so my knowledge is almost Nil. Please pardon my ignorance.

Anyone can give me advice on what to do next? Thank You very much.

This post has been edited by Ngto: Nov 30 2005, 01:07 PM
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post Nov 30 2005, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(prasys @ Nov 30 2005, 01:06 PM)
go and activate it lah....you need to activate first
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No lah, you crazy ah smile.gif

DSL singal also tada, you want me to activate it ah?

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post Nov 30 2005, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 30 2005, 01:10 PM)
Call TM net to activate. Once activated, it'll start to charge on your bill. tongue.gif

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Don't joke lah, this is serious lah smile.gif

You activate only when got DSL signal indicator on modem right?

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post Nov 30 2005, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(prasys @ Nov 30 2005, 01:18 PM)
one of the stupidest case provided by TmNut..maybe ur area can't get..Just like mine...Phone number says okay , when they come here and test can't get..But after installing RTDSLAM , now if i check , it says i got streamyx installed..thats really stupid

ask TM , how far you're from the DSLAM
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Thanks for your reply. My area sure can get because neighbours also connected before.

Only now this is another batch of New ports opened, so I subscribed.
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post Nov 30 2005, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 30 2005, 02:04 PM)
I didn't joke. Last time, they told me that once activated, they'll start to charge you. Unless as you said, no signal and bla bla ...

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I know that once activated they will charge me. That's why I asked you not to joke because you advised me to ask them to activate my account even when I already mentioned that I can't get any DSL signal.


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post Nov 30 2005, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(khengyi82 @ Nov 30 2005, 06:17 PM)
then u have call 1300 88 9515 choose language then press 1, after press 1 then press 4 . then the operator will speak to u. u try to describe the situation to the operator. they will help u .
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I have already done that before I posted here. If they were much help I wouldn't have come to ask the experts here smile.gif

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post Dec 1 2005, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Dec 1 2005, 09:43 AM)
double check your telephone wiring-is it really direct connection from pole to your wall socket?
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Since this requires the services of a wireman it will be my last resort. Want to see if there are any other reasons for this 'no-signal' DSL problem frist before calling him in.

I still suspect TMnet didn't jumper properly, maybe on purpose, so that I will require and pay for their installation services. Just a thought.
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post Dec 1 2005, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(prasys @ Nov 30 2005, 10:01 PM)
PM me , give me ur phone number , i can see if jumpers are correctly set or not...or u can call 1300 and fire them up
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Before I give my number, mind letting me know how you are able to check if jumpers or correctly set or not? By any chance are you working in TM?

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post Dec 1 2005, 11:23 AM

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For those who keep advising to to call 1300 helpline, I have already mentioned many times that I have already done that and they are no help. The just keep saying that jumpering already done. They can't help further.

So please stop suggesting that line of action smile.gif

But I do appreciate all your replies. Thank You.
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post Dec 4 2005, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(prasys @ Dec 4 2005, 04:57 PM)
no no no , but i got a friend who works in TM..if you just want..can pass along the message for you..But again its up to you

wmfei , register first...then you will know
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Thanks prasys, but I don't think it would be necessary now.

I was passing by a shopping complex yesterday and there was a reseller promoting the Streamyx packages there. And as luck would have it, there was also a TMpoint representative around to help the resellers people to answer technical questions.

So I complained to the guy about what happened, and he asked for my phone number so that he could check for me. After that he said that my line was not done at all, and promised he would solve the problem for me first thing Monday morning if I just filled up the forms and registered with the reseller. He also photostated my I.C.

(So much for the 1300 helpline lying to me twice before that everything was already properly jumpered and even giving me the name of the person who did the work. Should have taken down his name)

Anyway, I will wait till Monday to see what happens as he said he would call me once everything was done.

But it could also be a case of the guy purposely tricked me to register with the reseller so that they would get the commission. But I would like to think he could really help to set things right on Monday (tomorrow).

Will post an update tomorrow.



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post Dec 4 2005, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(wmfei @ Dec 4 2005, 09:34 PM)
I did not register yet. I know the DSL light should not turn on before I register, but I though it should at least blinking to indicate that the modem is looking for the signal? Pls correct me if I am wrong. I am confuse here. Furthermore, how do I get the username & passowrd thru on-line registration?

Can some body list down the activities that need to carry out for the first time registration user ?
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wmfei,

1) register online. Among others they will ask you for you preferred user ID and password.
2) Along the way if you keyed in everything required , there will be a confirmation slip that you can print out. Keep this as a record of the registration particulars.
(If there is no port available, there will be some sort of funny 'error' message when you check your application status online. If there are ports available, the status screen will say something like "Service Available. Installation in progress")
3) After about one or two days, call them up to see if they already jumpered the line.
4) If so , then just connect your modem to the line jack and power on. No need to switch on the computer yet.
5) If they have done things properly, you should get a blinking DSL signal and shortly later the light will stabilize (that's what I was told). Also don't know if it's the same for all modems).
6) After that you can set up the modem in Windows and if you are sure there are no problems, you can call the 1300 line to activate the account.

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post Dec 4 2005, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(europology @ Dec 4 2005, 11:10 PM)
nowadays, when i call the 1300 hotline, the automated-sound recorder told me to dial the 03- numbers. my area dial-code is 04, so if i dial the 03 numbers, how would it charge? local charges or 'from 04 to 03 charges'?
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I don't know how true it is, but some people say even the 1300 lines are not free.

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post Dec 5 2005, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(Mika @ Dec 4 2005, 11:59 PM)
High possibility: They don't do Jumpering Properly.

They got do Jumpering but didn't do it properly.

Normally DSL Light blinking is not yet set Jumpering but your case is totally no DSL Light. So either Jumpering Problem or Line Problem.

You need to pay for 1-300-88-9515.....It's not FREE.

Call the above no & get a Complain Report No "Very Important"

If they deploy contractor to fix for you, there could be a installation charges involved....so make sure they fix at the Jumpering site & not at your house.
Because Jumpering problem is their problems & their duty to fix it up. You already paying for RM75 Activation Fees.

You can do Cancellation within the 7 Days Activation Period. So, be smart to Cancel it if still no DSL signal.

With the Complain No.....you can write a letter & Fax to their Management or Call Direct Complain No. This way much Faster then keep on Calling 1-300-88-9515....because most of the time....they are hopeless...
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Thanks Mika, it has been over 1 week already but I have still not activated my account yet. Anyway they told me before that those who subscribe without modem(without installation) won't get auto activation within 1 week. They will activate only when the customer has informed them to activate. That's what they told me.

Is it true you will still get a blinking signal even if jumpering have not been done yet. If I connect to any phone line without broadband, will I get a blinking light. Can you please clear my confusion?

If that is the case, then it's likely my phone line got problem? since there is not even blinking signal. btw I am using this current phone line for two years already for normal dial-up and there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the wiring.

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post Dec 5 2005, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(Mika @ Dec 5 2005, 12:32 AM)
Wrong, you will get Auto-Activated anytime after 7 Days Auto-Activation. This is the new rules which running since 5 Months ago.....

I can check for u....is your line is activated or not.

Yes, it's true. You get DSL light blinking in any ppl house phone that didn't apply for streamyx. DSL light blinking means no Streamyx Signal. DSL light stable means got Streamyx Signal. No DSL light at all means either the station doing the jumpering not fixing it properly or port problem or line problem.

So, it's TMNet duty to fix that kind of problems.

It's not your phone line problem.
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Then those people at the 1300 are actually cheating by saying those who apply without modem (RM44/- package) won't need to worry about auto activation and will only activate when I give them my permission.

Question about the jumpering. How can a bad jumpering job cause a complete loss of DSL signal on the modem when even a non-jumpered non-streamyx line can at least get a flashing signal? Pardon my ignorance. I am complete dummy in these technical things.

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post Dec 5 2005, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(boonping @ Dec 5 2005, 12:47 AM)
I also got such problem..after they fixed the jumpering, i switch on the modem and called the 1300 to activate my account... i was put on hold for sometime and finally some1 picked up the phone..
she asked for my detail then asked me whether the dsl light blinking or not..i said no and i was asked to unplug the splitter and connect directly to the modem c whether the light got blink or not..
in the end, nothing happened so called her again n was put on hold again..later she asked me whether wanna book a time and ask the agent to come cause nothing can be done at the time..
so i jus agree on tat lo..
few days later the agent came..tried many times but the dsl light still no bliking, then he called the telekom people to do the jumperin again..after the telekom people go do the jumperin again, i finally can c the light blikning liao...
so i think the best way for u is to ask an agent come or ask telekom people to do the jumperin again.Jus my opinion
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Boonping, they conned you. They purposely made your modem no DSL signal, so that you have to agree for them to come to your house and then charge you for installation fee.

That what I think they are doing to me and lots of other people.

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post Dec 5 2005, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(M H z @ Dec 5 2005, 01:14 AM)
TM workers wont charge you if they come your house to check your jumpering. Only those contracters are not TM's company will charge you. Get it ?
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From what Boonping described they arranged for an agent (maybe a contractor) to check for the problem. There is always a possiblity the TM guys get a cut from the contractors they arranged with.

Anyway it's stated in the agreement that if those who do their own installation if they require assistance later on, they will charge an installation fee (maybe charge to Streamyx bill).

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post Dec 5 2005, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(boonping @ Dec 5 2005, 08:12 AM)
Erm i think i got no choice at the time..it seems like the agent used to be a telekom worker cause he knows the telekom guy who did the jumperin..i hv received the 1st month bill.not sure they got charge me or not.these are wat writen in the detail:
CREDIT ADJUSTMENT  
   
Rebet Pendaftaran Online  -50.00


REGISTRATION  
  
Streamyx DSL Installation 75.00  
Streamyx One Time Installation Fee 50.00  


  
SUBSCRIPTION  
  
Streamyx G.Lite Home Basic RM44 (04/10/05 - 06/11/05) 48.40  
Streamyx G.Lite Home Basic RM44 (09/10/05 - 08/11/05) 44.00  
Streamyx G.Lite Home Basic RM44 (09/11/05 - 08/12/05) 44.00  
Streamyx G.Lite Home Basic RM44 Adjustment (04/10/05 - 06/11/05) 48.40- 

So do they charge me??haha
1 more thing i would like to ask u all..ani1 here did online payment?i paid it on last sat but till now they still not update the database..hope they will update by today.soli if out of topic
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Yes Boonping they charged you installation of RM50/- They tricked you into asking for their assistance. They agreement says that they will charge you RM50 for their services if you encounter problems and ask for their services. (btw the credit adjustment of RM50/- in your bill has nothing to do with the installation amount. It is a rebate given to everyone who register online - applicable at the time you subscribed to the package).

From what I see, this is their trick (I am not claiming it for a fact, just they way I think is happenning) :-

1) When you subscribe for OWN installation package, they purposely don't jumper or do bad jumpering job so your modem no signal.

2) They then convince you that your side got problems so that you will agree to ask for their services (they consider this as 'Installation services')

3) When you agree, they will arrange for their contractors to come to your place. After that their contractors will call up TMnet and speak to thier 'inside' people and pretend they are doing something to solve the problem. All that is happenning is that the contractors just give the 'ok' signal to the inside people to proceed and jumper properly so that your modem will now have the DSL signal.

4) They then charge you installation fee for your next bill.

After that you can use your own imagination, how much 'share' they get.

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post Dec 5 2005, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(M H z @ Dec 5 2005, 03:00 AM)
those who came for jumpering mostly are TM's workers . Those who come for installation all are contracters
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You still don't understand. They won't tell you it's a jumper problem and claim it's some other problem at your end and then says that you need their 'installation' services.

Another thing is, shouldn't jumpering be done at their end? Why do they need to do jumpering at your house?

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QUOTE(prasys @ Dec 5 2005, 09:28 AM)
You got your problem fixed ?
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Haha not yet. Still too early. Haven't got the guy's call yet.

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QUOTE(prasys @ Dec 5 2005, 09:40 AM)
ZOMG..i know streamyx likes to cheat its customers...Duh , I wish you the best...I hope its jumped correctly....Thats why I'm not a big fan of TM...they just give you excusese..hahahaha..Good Luck

Please keep us all up2date on that matter !
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Ok, will update whether problem fixed or not later.


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