cool looking...





This post has been edited by butthead: Mar 3 2012, 09:55 PM

same builder... 10.8 pounds on a steel bike with hybrid carbon seat stays...


not so much to be said about the price though...


http://www.bikerumor.com/2012/03/02/nahbs-...-project-light/

fairwheel bikes shot at road bike trial stunts...


this one was better... did a backflip at the end...
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you moved the cleats in centimeters? the bont shoes have markings in mm.. CM is a big move of the cleats....

no one has symmetrical cleat positioning... they let you choose your cleat? damn... why didn't i get to choose mine? i had to live with a 4.5 degree float until it worn out (although not long)

ohh... my bad.. thought they let you take the original cleats packaged with your new pedal out to swap...

it is red by the way...

see here... keo grip comes with new pedals.. i am using keo cleats without the rubber thingies.. more slippery but also less burden on my wallet... think it's 20 a pop cheaper...
http://www.lookcycle.com/en/us/route/cales/keo-grip.html

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Added on March 4, 2012, 1:39 amooohhh.. another 10 pounder..




funky carbon material...



nice legs...

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Added on March 4, 2012, 1:43 amlast year's creation... the 11 pounder...




the ever expensive THM calipers...


This post has been edited by butthead: Mar 4 2012, 01:43 AM

just let it be... why spend money on another pair of shoes? you will end up wearing it on most days anyways if you feel the cheaper shoe is not as good...

there are race and training wheels... seldom hear race and training shoes...

the cheapest i think is the fibre glass a-three @ RM380.. A-one is the top tier not counting ctt range and vapor...

most brands have entry level shoes... you can take a look at scott and diadora ones... they have sub RM300 shoes which are quite good and value for money... shimano's are good as well.. think rodalink carries them..

gaerne also has a few sub RM300 if i am not wrong...

need i keep on shouting while riding the bike...

yeah.. even the blind people can hear it...

fixie's got no brakes... maybe they jus can't stop in time... jus makin an excuse for them...

This post has been edited by butthead: Mar 5 2012, 12:21 AM

you're wrong... my favorite helmet is the invisible helmet... one that you can't see or feel when you wear it...

this comes 2nd for it's novelty...
http://www.hovding.com/en/how

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Added on March 6, 2012, 6:17 pmchaintool... i think BBS has someone selling @ under RM60.... or you can go buy the more expensive ones...

just find a good brush and that will get the job done... those chain cleaner wastes a lot of degreaser and you can't pour them back into the can after use...

for the degreaser... your bike shop has an entire motorex box that contains degreaser, lube, some grime cutting frame detailing liquid (dunno wats that but saw it being used once) basically all the bike maintenance stuff... if you are wiling to spend the money...

i personally like pedro's oranj peelz.. i had a small 16oz bottle last time which a friend got for me when he went overseas....

too small a bottle my only complaint... can't find it here in KL as well (or i might have not looked hard enough)... i know they sell in 1 gallon bottles in overseas... which is not a lot since you have to apply quite a bit to get the gunk off your chain... 1 gallon will last you a while though depending on how frequent you wash...

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Today came back from Terengganu with a friend...



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the picture looks wrong in many ways

the purple creature look so kesian in the pic ... 1 dude trying to superman over it.. the other 2 at the side... 1 look like it is trying to stick a 10 inch thick pole up it's bum bum and the other trying to hold it down so it doesn't escape...

is it jus me or i am mentally sick

This post has been edited by butthead: Mar 6 2012, 06:17 PM

buy myself the ability to resist to buy more upgrades... bike performance goes up... personal financial performance goes down...

and yes i agree.. if you have a set of terrible wheels... wheelset... and if you have the financial freedom and don't plan to sell your current wheel.. a set of lighter wheels + race tyres + a lightweight cassette (red)...

but RM2k is a little less for a meaningful set of wheels... at least aim for FR1 or FR0 in the RM3 - 4k region... RM2k will get you FR3 with a bit of change... only 2 notches up from what you have now...

best to save up for more before you do anything... RM2k is really not a lot considering to upgrade from a 105 equipped bike... you will find yourself ending up in no man's land... and that is not what you want...

anything else like groupset is either lots of money or you see too little gains.. cockpit components, also expensive and you might not see much gains.. you will be left with things like headset, BB ( think chris king )... but also you won't appreciate much and pricey for that matter..

then comes the ultimatum... the frame... you'd be better off pawning your bike away and get another one... so, RM2k... is really nowhere to aim for...

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Added on March 6, 2012, 10:04 pmthere is also a very un-conventional route for RM2k wheel upgrades.. might be a bit risky

like this set of gigantex carbon rims laced to novatec hubs for USD550...weighs in at under 1500 grams for a 50mm set of high profile wheels..uses Sapim CX-Ray spokes to lace up the rims and hubs...
http://bdopcycling.com/Clearance.asp#WHEELSWHEELPARTS

or, if you can get your bike shop to build you a set of wheels.. you can order your build kit here..
http://www.bikehubstore.com

they have kinlin niobium rims, gigantex carbon rims, some very fancy lightweight taiwanese hubs with normal enduro bearings and almost full range of sapim spokes and wheel build accesories...

less than RM1.5k should be able to get you a set of sub 1500 gram alloy wheels... if you are light enough.. you might be able to get away with 16 spokes front and 20 spokes rear and creep closer to 1400 grams for a set of 30mm deep alloy wheels...

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Added on March 6, 2012, 10:06 pmyeah.. i admit it...

i gotta go see a shrink soon before i become a serial killer

This post has been edited by butthead: Mar 6 2012, 10:06 PM

yes FR0 and FR1s are still alloy wheels...you do get a carbon hub shell on FR0.. but no a full carbon rim like racing speed's...

the most important thing is to know what you want... so, you won't spend the money going mid-way like a set of racing 3's... then find out that it could not satisfy you and then spend more to get an even more expensive set..

as for 2 sets of wheels... i generally try to stay away from it, unless i am into competition or i have too much $$$ in hand... there are problems that comes with maintaining 2 sets of wheels.. like having to adjust the RD or the shifting isn't going to be accurate and question of brake pads and most importantly.. do you really have a reason to swap wheels when you go out riding... or you will find yourself neglecting one set that you own...

serial bike upgrader... cos you will go broke... and you will be afraid of riding your awesome bike because you will be scared that it will break on you and then you have to go deeper into bankruptcy for fixing it...

serial killer spends no money... you can kill someone with practically anything.. even a tree branch you picked up at the side of the road...and if you get caught... you get a place to live and free food most probably for the rest of your natural life...

you tell me which is worst

hahaha... i know... jus taking my chance to poke fun at someone i have no chance to when riding...

the purple mcdonalds monster still looks like it is in shock... very wrong facial expression....

any brand preferences? RM2k jus bike alone or include other stuff off bike like, helmets, shorts, lighting accessories??

you have to be very careful with the cup and cone hubs... a loose lock nut will result in a loose axle and who knows what else..

too tight and you will end up with a lot of bearing friction and more effort has to be put in to get it up to speed...

unfortunately... wheel choices if you browse the net and compare is superly limited in malaysia... there is not much emphasis being put on quality lower priced wheelsets... it is all about branding or carbon wheels...

why don't you build a set yourself... since parts are so accessible in the US...

"nothing more to upgrade"??? you wish... it depends on who is poisoning you...if you find a expert master sifu of level 255 in brain wash - mind poisoning ... you better kiss you bank account bye bye...

if you ask me... you have to think further ahead... once you get a cadence capable unit... then would HRM come next? then would you consider elevation an importance in your training? do you need data loggin capabilities?

there is no point getting one with an extra function then thinking, why didn't i get the one with HRM? or this and that function... you jus spend more getting it right sometime down the road...

not asking you to go nuts and get the best of the best out there... but think and analyze if it really is an importance to you and not jus from people's mouth... most importantly is that you understand the need of the function or part and if it is of any meaningful use to you... if not, it will be called kena poisoned into buying it...

This post has been edited by butthead: Mar 7 2012, 12:23 PM

my custom builds are not referring to the super expensive ones like wheelbuilder.com that uses CK, Dash, extralite, and the hubs that none of us poor souls can afford...

but yeah... in the US... i take it that they like a lot of the Kinlin niobium and Gigantex carbon rims...

i don't know what you think... but if there is a reputable wheel builder there... the costs should like around USD300-400 for a set of very top notch custom built alloys... maybe USD 700-800 for a set of carbons...

which shouldn't be too steep comparing it to the likes of zipp and mavics....

i jus bought some from bikehubstore.com (they jus revamped their site today) as their price are quite fair.. i went over the board this time with Sapim CX-Rays, spoke and nipple washers and also bought a bottle of rock n roll nipple cream to see if those stuff works and lace them to kinlin XR-270 front and XR-300 rears... i particularly liked the front hub as it is even wider than the Zip 88's... complete build should come in at around 1650 grams for a set of 24f/28r wheels...

that or you can try wheelbuilder as they are very reputable for building quality set of custom wheels... the problem is that they use quality parts too and that is too rich for my blood... the shipping to malaysia is also another killer for me...

like this set of rims for USD595.. USD545 if you get a set of hubs from them.. hubs another USD100-120, spokes another USD 130 or so... only problem is that it is 45mm and not 60mm deep...
http://www.bikehubstore.com/Gigantex-45mm-...her-p/wh071.htm



they even have some fancy 16:8 hubs like Campy G3 and Fulcrum 2:1... and i noticed today.. a lighter carbon shell hub... still not as light as Zipp 188's... but light enough to fall below 200grams.. and they are straight pull..

http://www.bikehubstore.com/UltraLight-Car...ub-p/sp197r.htm

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Added on March 7, 2012, 2:09 pmblimy... now i sound like i am promoting them...

This post has been edited by butthead: Mar 7 2012, 02:22 PM

oh yeah... you own a timex ironman right... if it ain't too expensive...go for it, since it is modular anyways... thought you were planning to get a totally new computer.

even this fella only rides a polygon 300 at the beginning... you had a better start than him...
http://impossibleisnull.blogspot.com/2008/05/new-bike.html

he got a runner / beater bike as a 2nd bike... and then the third, a race bike which is an argon 18..
http://impossibleisnull.blogspot.com/2009/...tt-mercury.html

i think he rides a specialized transition now with DT tri-spoke wheels..

it's never impossible according to him as long as you have the will..

why need to justify... because $ is everyone's concern at the end of the day...if no needs to justify... means you buy any and everything to your hearts content... and that is how people land in massive mountains of debts...


function wise, speed, cadence, alti and HRM would be the 4 functions that defines a more complete cycling computer... GPS is sort of added on as of late...

how the computer utilizes the data is another thing... for example, basic would be HRM showing only your current heart rate... advanced and more complete for training will split it into exercise zones so it will beep and tell you as you enter each zone to warn you not to overdo your limit...

gradient in some way is measure with speed... they will take the current elevation record minus previous elevation record and divide by the distance covered in between 2 records

for example you gain 10 meters vertically in the last 100 meters of horizontal distance, then your gradient will be 10% and this will be a gauge for how steep the climb is..

in recent computers, there is also a new data parameter called climb rate... used to track how many vertical meters you climbed per minute time frame... climb rate will be used to gauge how fast you went up a particular climb irregardless of the steepness... but logic tells you that for the same elevation, you either travel further horizontally witj less steepness or you travel more up a steeper climb with less horizontal distance...

that would be very preferable if it doesn't cost an arm and leg..

furthermore, powermeter are very hard to digest and analyze... it is a truly good tool for very advanced training... but you will have to be into minute details to learn how to use a power meter.. on top of calibration to get it right...

that's why every time... i would try to say "if money is not an issue"... because, if money is not the problem in the first place... then the question (is this upgrade worth it?) does not exist at all.. the question exists because we want to get our money's worth for watever money we have to spend.. if not we can jus upgrade anything we like...

with $ issues out of the way... you can go straight and get the best of the best in equipment, and if the best of the best fails to satisfy... there will always be another best of the best somewhere down the road.. that means swapping stuff like money is not a concern at all...

i wouldn't say that who has the right to use a particular component... it is just that one might not feel that much of difference between DA and Ultegra for instance and only the purchaser would eventually understand if the extra forked out for the better component is worth it to his enjoyment...

so, it is a question of finding out prior or post purchase that is very integral to forum discussions, i would think... if not we will always come in and say this and this is the best, no questions asked jus buy it...

we are here to share our thoughts and not to keep motivating people to changing stuff...

furthermore, i don't trust my words can change your decision if you have your firm beliefs from the start that what you desire is what you want...

and i am not paying for your upgrades with my money, which makes me having no rights in stopping anyone from any upgrades...

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Added on March 7, 2012, 6:02 pmCXP33 or Mavic Open Pro's make very tough rims... DA hubs are also very good and reliable as long as you take it apart to service the loose ball bearings once in a while... Ultegra FH-6700 would do just as fine at almost half the price if i were to build it...

Sapim CX-Ray would be where i think you will hit a blockade... hard to find in Malaysia... not even possible to get DT Aerolites in length excess of 280mm...

they are dirt cheap to build as well... i build my rear wheel with FH-6600 with Open Pro and DT Champion spokes (32 spokes - 3 cross both sides) for under 600... basically a great whack and bash wheel you can ride with no worries...

This post has been edited by butthead: Mar 7 2012, 06:11 PM

serious cycling is never an enjoyment.. whether you are the beginner who began cycling 2 weeks ago or you are andy schleck... or if you have an old steel frame or a high tech carbon frame... you still suffer when time comes...

important thing is to always savor the moments and enjoy the view and fresh air at the top of a hill after a torturing 2 hour ride...

i have to say "it is not always about the bike" if you are an avid cyclist...

yip is in fact very human.. he jus have an inhuman tolerance for suffering.. or what we all know as a sadomasochist...

i agree with the factory made wheels.. they jus have no soul nowadays and a major proof that bike shops is in it for profit rather than good quality bike products...

as for having a custom set on par with racing 0.. depends on what you are referring to... stiffness wise, maybe and maybe not... but that depends on your builder on whether he dares to wind the spokes onto it's tension limits...

but definitely i can say that it will be cheaper that a set of racing 1's even if it means to import some parts on the net in... weight wise will be comparable as well...

aerolite's i have asked before, orbea might be able to get them in but will have to buy the entire box... and as you know part of wheel building... there will always be 3 different spoke lengths... i am a person who don't mind having spares... but 3 x 100 piece box is going to be enough to build me 7 to 8 set of wheels with spares in change...

edge 500 has no real navigation features if i am not wrong.. i think it can map ride routes and then use them to direct you to ride back the same route the next time.. but not anything like the navigational features of the 800...

the navigational feature shown in real life...


a longer run through on the capabilites.. including courses....


here is andy from competitive cyclist trying to poison you into getting one...

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Added on March 7, 2012, 6:35 pmhe did genting highlands runs, and what he calls ultra marathons ( i think is 100KM of running) ... and he made the interstate bunch look like sissies by riding 1200kilos instead of the interstate route... i dunno wat to make of him...

for handbuilt wheels, 2 ways to this..

if you can get a bunch of people to share the same interest into building the exact same wheels as you... get it in boxes and then split the spokes...

if not, buy it online... like i did mine from bikehubstore... i initially targeted the taiwanese bdopcycling for their pillar spokes... but i thought WTH... jus go with Sapim for that little extra more... buying online, biggest problem is shipping charges for 1.. 2nd, the problem if you miscalculated spoke lengths... no one for you to blame and exchange would be near impossible...

i took my chances... now waiting for the stuff to arrive...

This post has been edited by butthead: Mar 7 2012, 06:44 PM