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 Nokia N9 - V03 - [Fluidity King For Nokia], Let~~~ SWIPE~~~ all~~~ the~~~ way~~~

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post Apr 16 2012, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(GravityFi3ld @ Apr 16 2012, 11:58 AM)
Perception of the consumers is one thing. Now the perception of its investors are also down the drain.. sad.gif
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My friend been a nokia fan since Nokia 3310 until today the only brand he used is Nokia and now he also disappointed. Camera Nokia N9 not up to par, Lack of applications , Lack of support, Best of all the design identical with Nokia Lumia 800 and 900.

Now the negative perspective is not only on consumers and investors that including apps developers too. Back then symbian gets priority to get the apps first now its always iOS and Android.

If Nokia dont have a consistence future plan and attention of apps developers i dont see how far it can go. I am also disappointed.
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post Apr 16 2012, 02:28 PM

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I understand where you coming from. Yea their plans was doing well but during that process but they keep making mistake over mistake over mistake and until this stage it still continue.

Power of having choice rather than restriction. Those never used Nokia N900 do not understand how it feels. With Nokia N900 it feels having so much power and flexibility just lack of the support it needed. Its like a mobile computer with FM transmistter, wifi, bluetooth, full flash support, true multi tasking, able to load multiple OS, full qwerty keyboard, capable to overclock, infra and etc.

I was hoping the Nokia N9 will be the improved version of of N900 but end up it didnt.

You are annoy because it suppose to be better but in this case its going the other way around. Like android and iOS both keep improving and improving. even now samsung android phones are getting cheaper and cheaper.

Now its like wanna recommend ppl to buy Nokia 808 pureview also scare. later you convince someone buy it later Windowsphone launch with pureview (thanks elop) also then this time kill symbian as well. Only thing i disappointed you pay the full price for testing unit.

Yea like iOS they listen to ppl like back then no 3G they put 3G models , then ppl complaint crappy speakers they improve the speakers ppl say crappy camera they improve the camera, ppl said screen not sharp they fitted their with retina display , ppl complaint no video calls they fit in facetime. Ppl said battery life is crap they improve it.

I get your point so consumer get less and less and less reason to complaint and end up they make an ideal phone for newer generation so developers are certain of their investment into it.

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There always potential for windows phone to leap. Most of us still uses windows so if they can integrate maybe windows phone to windows 8 on desktop it would be amazing.

Just imagine when you reach home you just dock your windowsphone it auto sync and connect to your windows 8 computer. You can access all your phone data , you can play music from your phone, you can send sms/ mms , you can even make phone call directly, act as a modem, continue your games on your phone like playstation. Do your office documents and then continue using it on your phone.

The only thing android do not have control yet and windows does have that advantage if they forseen and plan ahead for it.

Yea get it so your customers are only people that eat porrdige except if you are so famous until everyone knows you aka like iphone then u can do that but not from a new OS that lacking so many things.

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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Apr 16 2012, 03:03 PM)
Actually you can already do all of those mentioned in your 2nd para. You don't need to have the same OS.

A common OS to tie PCs, smartphones and tablets together is over hyped. They are different devices used for different functions so they do not share many common apps. Even the same app has to be re-written for each device due to different screen sizes.

Having a common OS will allow a virus or malware to spread through all your devices. Do users want this?

Microsoft is the prime mover for this common device OS with their Windows 8 philosophy. I suppose this is to help their stumbling WP but it will not work. Users do not need or want the same OS on all their devices. For example there are many tablets running Windows 7 but they are all failures. Aside from the lack of necessity it is also boring to run the same OS on all your devices. Do you want your office, home and car to be decorated in the same style?
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Its like iPhone you notice these days more people using iPhone iPad and also Mac isnt all the same type just they serve different purpose. Its like what asus transformer try to do become a notebook or a tablet. Of course I don't prefer office, home and car the same but what I mean is integration wherever u go. style and design can be customize to suite that individual.

Windowsphone is focus on social intregration now its lacking integration of lifestyle just imagine you can resume your game, work even music anywhere u go.

Something like Playstation Vita and Playstation 3 concept or imagine you remix some awesome music then when you enter club you can just sync your phone to their sound system and share your music



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post Apr 16 2012, 04:10 PM

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Look now even china phone capable to run on quad core and android 4.0
http://www.gsmarena.com/meizu_mx_quadcore_...l-news-4100.php

the price less than 1k estimated. So just matter of time the OS will be overrated and become boring. After run out of hardware to fight it will drop the price unlike iOS the price always stay until next launch because only they have it
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post Apr 16 2012, 04:55 PM

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Nokia Shares will tell their results not what elop (1person) and few consumer says. If apple is not doing good cannot be their shares are sky high right
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post Apr 16 2012, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Apr 16 2012, 06:15 PM)
Ya lah,you know, me know, we all here know. But, Nokia Board of Directors like make dunno. So, end up Nokia .......liao
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sad sad i also lazy comment di.
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post Apr 17 2012, 03:56 PM

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u dont need to backtrack 72 pages to read. U just need type the keywords and search topic to show whether similar topic have been discussed or not
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post Apr 18 2012, 09:55 AM

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Maybe ELOP have its own plans or goal so possibility he trying follow steps of steve jobs but at this stage that plan doesnt looks feasible.

I am just unhappy about the lab rat test only.

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post Apr 19 2012, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Apr 18 2012, 02:57 PM)
I fear Nokia may not last long. It has burnt its bridges to Symbian and Meego and fully dependent on Lumia to succeed. Europe's response to Lumia is lukewarm; China, India and the rest of the world are indifferent. Now Nokia's last stand is the U.S. If Lumia 900 fails in the U.S. it will be the end of Nokia.

The core of the problem is that WP7.5 can't compete with Android ICS and ios5. Even Symbian users don't consider WP7.5 an upgrade.

It remains to be seen if Apollo can lift Nokia's fortunes. But it is only due at the end of the year so it may not come in time to save Nokia. There's more bad news. According to a GSMArena report current WP7 phones will not be able to upgrade to Apollo.

This may well be the death knell for Nokia. Sales of Lumia while not great now may tail off towards Apollo.
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That is a rumour. Not official. If you follow that news before that a microsoft spokeman said can upgrade then verge said an unofficial cant.

We have to start believe that they launch the OS but never fully give the full support unlike android and iOS thats the only OS they have and they push it all the way. We see the potential in WP7 question is how far will they push.
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The spokeman was from another blog i read as well and yes the one saying cant was from the verge.

Yeap if they keep quiet its not a good sign
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post Apr 19 2012, 04:26 PM

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Its getting bad to worse
http://www.xda-developers.com/feature/enjo...veloper-unlock/

Apps in marketplace indeed are more expensive.

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post Apr 20 2012, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Apr 20 2012, 06:53 PM)
Wat is the advantage of this over the lumia 800?
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1) get to try new OS aka meego
2) the only phone can pawn android quad core in multitasking with just a single core 1ghz
3) 2.5d effect
4) bigger screen a 3.9inch
5) NFC
6) front camera
7) Bluetooth transfer
8) support adhoc
9) support wifi hotspot
10) mass storage transfer support
11) tv output
12) dolby headphone support
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Apr 20 2012, 08:56 PM)

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doesnt work lol but does have camera
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post Apr 23 2012, 09:38 AM

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they think they are the only OS in the market if they did this 5 years ago might work but with so many OS in the market by doing so its not helping them but will kill them.
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 23 2012, 11:48 AM)
Yup, not big hit, but IMPORTANT to Nokia... it can help to KEEP/MAINTAIN Nokia Customers who haven't jump ship. At least they have a choice and a good device. There're also many N8 owners, or even some older models.

Beside that it also attract some Android/iPhone owners, my friends who's using iPhone and Androids, has never look at Nokia since they jump ship. Now they're interested in the 808 PureView.
Yes, they're not keen with Symbian, when asked Windows Phone or Symbian, all of them straight answer Symbian. ALL, it's not majority, it's ALL.

When there're no more Symbian phones from Nokia, that's when things get worst. Will those Nokia users who are still using Symbian right now switch to Windows Phone?
Or will they go for other platforms.
If they have to go through those restrictions and limitations, most likely they will choose iPhone?
If they want flexibility like their current Symbian, their only choice is Android.
I wonder what will happen when the time comes.
Will Microsoft loosen up their Windows Phone OS?
Can Nokia make any changes or difference? It's critical moment as they're loosing Customers everyday.
You can even see how many Lumia owners are selling off their devices.
Based on LYN forum thread, Nokia N8 thread was so darn hot BEFORE even it was launch. Just look at the reception of Nokia Symbian phones against Lumia phones, it's just so huge difference. Even Maemo and MeeGo thread was better than Lumia.
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yea the response was so good but then apps wasnt the main topic yet. Now everything is about apps. And thats their biggest lacking as well
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post Apr 24 2012, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Apr 24 2012, 06:04 PM)
It gets worse. If your file isn't a format which Zune recognize like MS Office doc, photo, movie or music Zune will refuse to transfer for you. Then the only way is to email to yourself or use Cloud service. How ridiculous is this? Transfer to your own phone also so difficult.


Added on April 24, 2012, 6:23 pm

Yes, it's true iphone has the same restrictions but users don't complain. I don't know why. When it comes to Apple their users are very tolerant. No FM radio also can, This is one of the great mysteries of the universe.
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have u notice that iOS covered your needs and give ease to many people example


-Very smooth UI no lag
- Tons of apps and games
- Amazing virtual keyboard
- Continuous improving OS
- Simplify many tasks on the phone - a 3 year old boy know how to play an iOS device.
- Ease to access to apps

Like my dad i give him Nokia E6 he complaint this complaint that
Let him try Nokia C7 complaint lag la, connect bluetooth hang la, very hard to sms la data plan overcharge when go to oversea la (before belle)

After he use iphone 4S totally no more complaint. Before go oversea he just make sure mobile data is off. The best part my dad call me using viber i was shock as well. No more complaint hang No more complaint lag No more complaint camera cant focus documents.

Since he using the ipad 2 and iphone 4S u see him busy checking mail himself, busy read newspaper and etc
Back then on E6 and C7 the email have issues u see it downloading mail but never download when check the web mail u can see there tons of mails.


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post Apr 24 2012, 08:13 PM

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Yea try tell that to him he got so fed up and finally want to change.

1. My dad dont use mass storage
2. Copy photo just use the cable
3. Flash he dont use
4. Drop he bought casing but what he needs in workable
5. The phone he use no f secure no anti virus and when he pass to me its really lagging
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Apr 24 2012, 08:19 PM)
So with N8 Belle, all you need to to pull down the menu and off the "mobile data" to permanently off data usage? What about the AGPS setting? Need separate setting?

As for N9, what's this 'one touch off' switch located?
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Yea as long as its off any data connection will be block. N9 ill check when i get home

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