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post Feb 8 2012, 09:46 AM


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I am currently holding MBA is wish to proceed for either DBA or Phd.

From my understading, Phd will be more towards theoritical (for professor?) and DBA will be more for those people working in non-educational firm.

Is there a private university offering above program with less than RM 30k for the entire course? Which U did you recommend>?
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From my understanding, Doctoral degree is combination of coursework and thesis (research), but for Phd it is completely research.

Correct me if im wrong.
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QUOTE(ron4 @ Feb 9 2012, 12:02 AM)
From my understanding, Doctoral degree is combination of coursework and thesis (research), but for Phd it is completely research.

Correct me if im wrong.
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You are right, most of the U conduct DBA / PhD as you mentioned.

nowadays, DBS is quite popular and like a hot cake in the market....
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what is the DBS.. so the DBA holder also can use the Dr title?
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^ i think i saw some PHD philipine uni offer by local college for around 30k
your mba from which uni ?

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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Feb 24 2012, 01:53 PM)
^  i think i saw some PHD philipine uni offer by local college for around 30k
your mba from which uni ?
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which local college offering?
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Doctorate degree, in any kind of form, usually geared towards academic field. Especially in Malaysia. DBA or PhD or DEng, you'll still be expected to ply your trade in the university.

You increase your market value for each education level you mastered, and it peaks at Masters. After that (phd, post doc), it'll be hard to find jobs, esp in Malaysia, since you're overqualified and will be massively underpaid.

DBA is kinda useless since business theories can only get you so far. Without real-life experience, all your business knowledge is only applicable in business school.


Added on March 4, 2012, 11:38 amas far as I know, DBS is Dublin Business School.

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QUOTE(pusamus @ Mar 4 2012, 11:37 AM)
Doctorate degree, in any kind of form, usually geared towards academic field. Especially in Malaysia. DBA or PhD or DEng, you'll still be expected to ply your trade in the university.

You increase your market value for each education level you mastered, and it peaks at Masters. After that (phd, post doc), it'll be hard to find jobs, esp in Malaysia, since you're overqualified and will be massively underpaid.

DBA is kinda useless since business theories can only get you so far. Without real-life experience, all your business knowledge is only applicable in business school.


Added on March 4, 2012, 11:38 amas far as I know, DBS is Dublin Business School.
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IMO, DBA is for those who have adequate working experience or have run their biz for say 10 years and above, as such the individual will be able to link the pratical experience and thories together.

Dont go for DBA if u r fresh grads or have limited working exp.
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post Mar 16 2012, 12:43 PM


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DBA is a combination of coursework, thesis, and consultancy. (This is in USM). The consultancy is a nightmare for most of the DBA students. If your consulting recommendation for the company is not successful or it does not work, you will fail.

In some other universities, DBA is just a combination of coursework and thesis. So easy easy la....

PhD is usually 100% research but I know there are other universities where the PhD is a combination of coursework and thesis especially those universities from the US. Even locally, UKM and UM's PhDs are a combination of coursework and thesis. In USM, the PhD is 100% research.

So, a choice of PhD or DBA?

If you want an easy journey, take the DBA lo.... I know many corporate managers did that. They just want the Dr title and also for career progression.

I feel nowadays any Tom, Dikk and Harry can easily get a DBA. I have seen too many corporate executives having those DBAs.

If you seriously want to go into the academic line, take PhD. It will hone your research and writing skills.

And...PhD is not just about theory. That's the misconception. If you are doing a PhD, you will have to go out to distribute questionnaires or interview people. Or some doing a PhD in the sociology area, they have to observe the phenomenon of interest. Like I read one thesis of a PhD anthropology student, she went to the Orang Asli village and mingle with them for several months and years just to write her thesis. She recorded the entire journey just like a diary for the PhD thesis.

Or some doing experimental research for their PhD, you really have to do your research hands-on.

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post Mar 17 2012, 04:17 AM


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Hi all,

My personal view, DBA is a well-structured course as coursework help prepare students for their thesis. (In a way, easier for working adults to cope with)

Just abit info, a typical DBA will consist 12 units (which require Assignment & Exam) and average number of words per Assignment is about 6000words. (12*6000=72,000words). A typical DBA thesis is about 60,000-70,000 words. While PhD is between 100,000-130,000words. [This is HBS course structure for DBA and PhD] .....

Maybe in Malaysia, there is this perception that DBA is academically lesser than a PhD but according to HBS, that's not the case. Most business schools around the world that offers DBA, try their best to follow the structure used by HBS as they are the benchmark. (Even Malaysian Universities, example MMU, UKM, USM, OUM etc)

I guess is safe not to under-estimate the value of DBA degrees.

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post Mar 17 2012, 11:04 AM


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Thanks for the input. For my case, with 15 years of working experience, I m more into the DBA instead of Phd (pure research type). Phd is more suitable for those who like research very much. I hv almost finish my MBA with UM, we hv few lecturers are with DBA qualifications. They can teach better IMO, as most of them who take DBA have industrial experience, and can relates the theory to the real world better than those Phd that hv not worked in private sector. For example how can u teach entrepreneurship subject if u r not an entrepreneur?

Some institution like INCEIF offering their Phd on both coursework and research mode. For coursework mode u study 12 subjects (70%) and then a dissertation (30%), and end of the day u still get a Phd title in Islamic finance.
So the difference between phd and dba is getting lesser.
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post Mar 24 2012, 01:08 AM


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Know any latest 2012 DBA preview?
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post Mar 25 2012, 11:46 AM


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Hi there,

i am planning to persue my studies in PhD or DBA.

is there any uni that provides business manjor in strategic management? prefer cheaper uni.

Please advise.

Thanks.
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QUOTE(cute_miao @ Mar 25 2012, 11:46 AM)
Hi there,

i am planning to persue my studies in PhD or DBA.

is there any uni that provides business manjor in strategic management? prefer cheaper uni.

Please advise.

Thanks.
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usually DBA no majoring.
for PHD u can research in Strategic Managment topic.
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post Mar 25 2012, 03:55 PM


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QUOTE(cute_miao @ Mar 25 2012, 11:46 AM)
Hi there,

i am planning to persue my studies in PhD or DBA.

is there any uni that provides business manjor in strategic management? prefer cheaper uni.

Please advise.

Thanks.
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Any IPTA in Malaysia is always cheaper than IPTS.

If you are interested in strategic management, you can always come over to USM. Or any of the other three research public universities in Malaysia - UM, UKM, UPM. I believe USM is the cheapest among the four research universities.

Another advantage of IPTA is the online journal database. Their online journal database subsribed to is quite extensive compared to IPTS. You will be relying on these database extensively.

DBA is more suitable for corporate executives.

If you intend to be an academic, take up the PhD.
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post Mar 25 2012, 07:03 PM


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For Phd in business related field i will prefer UM, the highest ranked among the public university in Malaysia. World top 200 univesity by QS, and the fee is still within the affordable range.
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post Mar 25 2012, 07:11 PM


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Dun forget UTM bro, the cheapest in Malaysia
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QUOTE(honn @ Mar 25 2012, 07:11 PM)
Dun forget UTM bro, the cheapest in Malaysia
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How cheap??? what abt quality? as it translate into if what u paid is value for money??
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post Mar 27 2012, 10:35 AM


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thanks guys for ur info..i will look into UM.

i really appreciate all your comments.

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post Mar 29 2012, 11:33 AM


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QUOTE(cute_miao @ Mar 27 2012, 10:35 AM)
thanks guys for ur info..i will look into UM.

i really appreciate all your comments.
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Hi, you 'll find a that being a postgrad in a public university to be very different from a private university. Aside from fees differences, you'll find the experience, the expectations, the standards to be different as well.

If fees is a concern, there are a number of private universities, especially foreign branch campuses in Malaysia, that offer scholarships and other financial aid for scholars doing the PhD program. You'll find a good selection of Postgraduate programs at http://www.malaysia-education.com/postgraduate.html. I suggest you check out these private options before deciding.

Note also that the DBA lacks the research component and strength that a PhD would offer.


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Thanks Sandy90~!

Now i am thinking which uni provides the fast track n easy to go thru phd..hahaha
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QUOTE(cute_miao @ Mar 31 2012, 11:15 AM)
Thanks Sandy90~!

Now i am thinking which uni provides the fast track n easy to go thru phd..hahaha
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Which majoring/ area you intend to do?
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Hi guys... I just finished my MBA and considering whether should go for DBA or PHD as well.

But mind anyone can advise me the course will be in full time or part time?

I think its hard to find local college or uni providing overseas DBA. Except one, (http://www.itd.com.my/itdphp/business/itd_business.php) University of South Australia.

Anyone heard of this University?
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QUOTE(IanLeeCH @ Apr 1 2012, 07:16 PM)
Hi guys... I just finished my MBA and considering whether should go for DBA or PHD as well.

But mind anyone can advise me the course will be in full time or part time?

I think its hard to find local college or uni providing overseas DBA. Except one, (http://www.itd.com.my/itdphp/business/itd_business.php) University of South Australia.

Anyone heard of this University?
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Which uni for your mba?
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Which uni for your mba?
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University of Sunderland. Why?
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University of Sunderland. Why?
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Just askin so I can check out the cost for this uni.
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Just askin so I can check out the cost for this uni.
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You want to study MBA?
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You want to study MBA?
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Not me. My sis planning to go for post grad.
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QUOTE(IanLeeCH @ Apr 1 2012, 07:16 PM)
Hi guys... I just finished my MBA and considering whether should go for DBA or PHD as well.

But mind anyone can advise me the course will be in full time or part time?

I think its hard to find local college or uni providing overseas DBA. Except one, (http://www.itd.com.my/itdphp/business/itd_business.php) University of South Australia.

Anyone heard of this University?
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FYI, the University of South Australia already discontinue the program with ITD..
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Just received an offer letter from OUM for their DBA (May 2012 Intake).

Year 1: Rm14,400
Year 2: Rm14,400
Year 3: Rm6,180
Year 4: Rm6,180
Total: Rm41,160


What do you guys think about OUM ? (Please note: OUM only offers part-time courses)


MMU: Rm61,900 (FT 3years)
UCSI: Rm54,600 (FT 3years)
IIUM: RM48,000 (FT 3-4years)
UKM: Rm44,000 (FT 3.5years)
HELP(U): Rm42,000 (FT 2.5-4.5years)
UUM: Rm36,080 (FT 2.5-3.5years at Razzen Business School)
USM: Rm28,350 (FT 3.5years)



Cheers.

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QUOTE(munhong @ Apr 16 2012, 02:38 AM)
Just received an offer letter from OUM for their DBA (May 2012 Intake).

Year 1: Rm14,400
Year 2: Rm14,400
Year 3: Rm6,180
Year 4: Rm6,180
Total:  Rm41,160


What do you guys think about OUM ? (Please note: OUM only offers part-time courses)
MMU: Rm61,900 (FT 3years)
UCSI: Rm54,600 (FT 3years)
IIUM: RM48,000 (FT 3-4years)
UKM: Rm44,000 (FT 3.5years)
HELP(U): Rm42,000 (FT 2.5-4.5years)
UUM: Rm36,080 (FT 2.5-3.5years at Razzen Business School)
USM: Rm28,350 (FT 3.5years)
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What I think about OUM? The first thing that comes up in mind is this uni is for those working people who can't give 100% focus on their study. Another thing is since it is only for those that do part time, lecturers expectation on their students tend to be lower. These are my perceptions on OUM.
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QUOTE(Mr.Wang @ Apr 16 2012, 08:32 AM)
What I think about OUM? The first thing that comes up in mind is this uni is for those working people who can't give 100% focus on their study. Another thing is since it is only for those that do part time, lecturers expectation on their students tend to be lower. These are my perceptions on OUM.
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Thanks Mr Wang. Appreciate it. smile.gif

I do agree with you, where OUM's students are all working adults and couldn't focus on studying full-time.

However, Professor's expectation does not change compared to most Private Universities in Malaysia. (I have spoken to DBA Professors from MMU, UCSI & UUM on their course structure, exam format, assignment and pass-rate)
Most Universities are offering DBA with 10-12 modules (50/50 assignment & exams, some modules requires presentation) and thesis (averaging about 65,000words).

In terms of high quality expectation, UKM & USM requires all DBA students to maintain a minimum 3.0CGPA in order to graduate from their course.

To maintain 3.0 CGPA in a doctorate level degree is quite tough. (But I'm sure some students are capable of doing so)

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Another thing is since it is only for those that do part time, lecturers expectation on their students tend to be lower. These are my perceptions on OUM.


Please be reminded, doctorate studies either DBA or PhD-BA offered at OUM specifically designed towards working adults. This means it is more structured, flexible as for these adult learners to plan & manage their doctorate studies without having to sacrifice their careers.

OUM already have doctorate students graduated in all 5 PhD (Business Admin / Education / Science / Engineering / IT) courses offered at the University. Yes, it is all research basis that required thesis dissertation.

My personal view, irregardless of any University in Malaysia, if you're willing to sacrifice valuable time, finance in order to pursue doctoral studies, deserve a salute. Because many pursuing PhDs always either make it or break it halfway.

But, the fact some adult learners willing to juggle family, work, personal life with studies at the same time, earn more respect from me.

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QUOTE(munhong @ Apr 16 2012, 03:55 PM)
Thanks Mr Wang. Appreciate it.  smile.gif

I do agree with you, where OUM's students are all working adults and couldn't focus on studying full-time.

However, Professor's expectation does not change compared to most Private Universities in Malaysia. (I have spoken to DBA Professors from MMU, UCSI & UUM on their course structure, exam format, assignment and pass-rate)
Most Universities are offering DBA with 10-12 modules (50/50 assignment & exams, some modules requires presentation) and thesis (averaging about 65,000words).

In terms of high quality expectation, UKM & USM requires all DBA students to maintain a minimum 3.0CGPA in order to graduate from their course.

To maintain 3.0 CGPA in a doctorate level degree is quite tough. (But I'm sure some students are capable of doing so)

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That might be true. But don't 100% believe what those professors told you. They tend to market their uni and wants more students to enroll, especially private uni.

QUOTE(Protoculture @ Apr 16 2012, 05:46 PM)
Please be reminded, doctorate studies either DBA or PhD-BA offered at OUM specifically designed towards working adults. This means it is more structured, flexible as for these adult learners to plan & manage their doctorate studies without having to sacrifice their careers.

OUM already have doctorate students graduated in all 5 PhD (Business Admin / Education / Science / Engineering / IT) courses offered at the University. Yes, it is all research basis that required thesis dissertation.

My personal view, irregardless of any University in Malaysia, if you're willing to sacrifice valuable time, finance in order to pursue doctoral studies, deserve a salute. Because many pursuing PhDs always either make it or break it halfway.

But, the fact some adult learners willing to juggle family, work, personal life with studies at the same time, earn more respect from me.
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Sure the more doctorate they can produce, they better they are. Though I'm not sure about the quality of those thesis. I know lecturers from local uni that admitted they don't really expect much from those doing part time doctorate due to their focus on work. And those that ask me a favor to analyze their research are mostly part timers.




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QUOTE(Protoculture @ Apr 16 2012, 05:46 PM)
Please be reminded, doctorate studies either DBA or PhD-BA offered at OUM specifically designed towards working adults. This means it is more structured, flexible as for these adult learners to plan & manage their doctorate studies without having to sacrifice their careers.

OUM already have doctorate students graduated in all 5 PhD (Business Admin / Education / Science / Engineering / IT) courses offered at the University. Yes, it is all research basis that required thesis dissertation.

My personal view, irregardless of any University in Malaysia, if you're willing to sacrifice valuable time, finance in order to pursue doctoral studies, deserve a salute. Because many pursuing PhDs always either make it or break it halfway.

But, the fact some adult learners willing to juggle family, work, personal life with studies at the same time, earn more respect from me.
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I guess most people forgotten that doctorate courses requires external examiner from other universities.

All doctoral students required to defend their thesis in the viva voce, where external examiners must attend.
That's how Universities ensure all thesis are at the doctoral-level research.

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QUOTE(munhong @ Apr 19 2012, 09:12 PM)
I guess most people forgotten that doctorate courses requires external examiner from other universities.

All doctoral students required to defend their thesis in the viva voce, where external examiners must attend.
That's how Universities ensure all thesis are at the doctoral-level research.

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Even at masters level got external examiner la. Except masters by coursework.
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Even at masters level got external examiner la. Except masters by coursework.
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That's true. Most doctoral courses have external examiner, however for masters, only by research based (Example: MPhil etc).
I didn't know we are discussing master's degrees as well.

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sorry for going out of topic a bit, but do you guys checked the accreditation before signing up for a Masters' or Doctorate programme? hmm.gif

I am thinking of getting a PhD/DBA soon, but when I tried to search for Malaysia accreditation (MQA to be specific), it seems like there are very little to choose from.
to my surprise, UM(or some other local uni like UKM,UPM etc) seems like out of the picture for Masters' and Doctorate. Though they are listed for Diplomas and Degrees or did I get the whole accreditation thingy wrong? hmm.gif
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First and foremost, I do not agree that DBA is less tougher or easier than Phd. In pursuing DBA, students are required to further enhance or contribute to the body of knowledge.

If you want to find cheap fees, then go to local U. However, please be reminded that the failure is rampant, the rates of success applicant is very low due to these factors:

1. Lack of supervision

In local or public U, the lecturers may have to supervise several or many PHD candidates and on top of that, they have to give lectures to thousands of undergrads students. The morale is low, promotion is based on seniority, do you think they care about you??

2. No guidance or the candidate will lost in the middle of the Phd journey

The role of supervisor is undeniable. Even in DBA, a concrete theoretical framework is required in order to do your thesis. This is important for all Phd or DBA candidate and the input from the supervisor is critical.

So, if you want to really earn this degree (Phd or DBA), please go to private u that have links or collaboration with Overseas U. If u think u can succeed with minimal supervision from local U, then go ahead. This is not MBA or masters my friend, bear in mind that DBA or PHD requires a lot of attention and effort compared to MBA, MA or MSC. The gap is too wide.

However, private U, for instance City U in collaboration with Southern Cross U, Australia offers a fee of RM65k for the whole program.
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im interested in getting a DBA, but the problem is, i would like to get an oversea certification instead done locally. and the only Uni that offers this is institute of training and development ( collaborate with university of South Australia, one of 127 business schools accredited by the European Quality Improvement System) and city university (collaborate with university of Ballarat, five-star rating for teaching quality in the 2011).

anyone taking DBA mind to shed some light on the course(which U) taken and the feedbacks? smile.gif
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Which one is more better in both working and for the future ,if there is a chance to join and lecture in the Uni/College?
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If you plan to join the academia, PhD is the better option.

Recently, my institution received a government Form from MOHE for the Dean to fill up the particulars of all of the staff. In one of the questions in the form, the Dean was required to fill in the number of academic staff with PhD qualification. Furthermore, it specifically stated down that those with DBA or coursework doctoral qualifications are not counted. Only those with research based doctoral degrees/PhD are to be included.

I can't remember what's that Form for. I guess it's just some KPI forms for the institution to be sent to MOHE.
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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Jun 26 2012, 09:40 PM)
If you plan to join the academia, PhD is the better option.

Recently, my institution received a government Form from MOHE for the Dean to fill up the particulars of all of the staff. In one of the questions in the form, the Dean was required to fill in the number of academic staff with PhD qualification. Furthermore, it specifically stated down that those with DBA or coursework doctoral qualifications are not counted. Only those with research based doctoral degrees/PhD are to be included.

I can't remember what's that Form for. I guess it's just some KPI forms for the institution to be sent to MOHE.
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Thanks for your helpful info wink.gif am also aware that there are limited Uni/College to offer PhD course. I plan to take PhD for better secure purpose, if there is one day I no longer working at my retirement age and it could be my interest for lecturing in Uni smile.gif
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QUOTE(cutiepooh @ Jun 27 2012, 10:51 AM)
Thanks for your helpful info wink.gif  am also aware that there are limited Uni/College to offer PhD course. I plan to take PhD for better secure purpose, if there is one day I no longer working at my retirement age and it could be my interest for lecturing in Uni smile.gif
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I don't think it is limited. All public universities in Malaysia offer PhDs.
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I don't think it is limited. All public universities in Malaysia offer PhDs.
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Ya I knew Local Uni offers PhD. I prefer more choices and do look for some private Uni laugh.gif
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Hi there,

I saw on a UCSI University brochure that they offer a DBA course. It said that it will equip you with theory and practical use, aswell as other skills from this programme. Maybe have a look if it isn't on the website.
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Hi cutiepooh,

To answer your question, if you are 100% certain for an Academic Career, PHD is your choice. DBA might only limits your success in an Academic Environment.

However, to counter argue that statement, the Assistant Professor/Deputy Dean (Business School) from UniRazak holds a DBA degree from Australia. He was recently nominated as the lead writer for the Entrepreneurship Global Report for 2012. (Click here - Dr Roland)

Interms of opportunity and salary scale in the Academic Industry, fresh DBA holders are offer competitive salary.
For example, Swinburne University of Technology (Sarawak) is offering minimum Rm6000 for Doctorate holders (PhD & DBA). (Click here - Swinburne Uni's Salary Scale)
Please note: Taylor's, Monash, Nottingham & Public Universities accept both Doctorate (PhD & DBA) as equal.

All the best. Good luck.

Cheers.

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That might be true. But don't 100% believe what those professors told you. They tend to market their uni and wants more students to enroll, especially private uni.
Sure the more doctorate they can produce, they better they are. Though I'm not sure about the quality of those thesis. I know lecturers from local uni that admitted they don't really expect much from those doing part time doctorate due to their focus on work. And those that ask me a favor to analyze their research are mostly part timers.
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I have a friend who just graduated from OUM Engineering PhD programme. The criteria for graduation is very simple: need to have a few journal publications. Not just any journal, but international, cited journals (Thomson, Scopus) etc. He has published 3 journal papers and 3 international conference papers. So now you know the kind of quality expected of their thesis. Even some main stream universities phd grad can't match that. you want proof, just go to here to see their effort in publication (is not exhaustive):
http://academic.research.microsoft.com/Org...sity%20Malaysia
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QUOTE(leeboy @ Jul 4 2013, 10:39 AM)
I have a friend who just graduated from OUM Engineering PhD programme. The criteria for graduation is very simple: need to have a few journal publications. Not just any journal, but international, cited journals (Thomson, Scopus) etc. He has published 3 journal papers and 3 international conference papers. So now you know the kind of quality expected of their thesis. Even some main stream universities phd grad can't match that. you want proof, just go to here to see their effort in publication (is not exhaustive):
http://academic.research.microsoft.com/Org...sity%20Malaysia
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University Malaya ( and other 4 research public universities in Msia) are also the same.
For Science stream, at least 2 publications in an ISI ranked journals.
For social Science/ Arts, at least 1 publication in ISI, or 2 publications in Category A/B journals.
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Hi guy, do u noe how much is the fee per semester to further study at um for the field of engineering?
is there any available scholarship to further study at um?

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Hi guy, do u noe how much is the fee per semester to further study at um for the field of engineering?
is there any available scholarship to further study at um?
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UM published the fees in their website.
you can get mybrain15 from MOHE or bright spark scholarship from UM. All info available in UM website
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DBA is more suitable for MBA holder !
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