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Economics PHD or DBA, Course Fees for private Uni in Malaysia

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munhong
post Mar 17 2012, 04:17 AM

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Hi all,

My personal view, DBA is a well-structured course as coursework help prepare students for their thesis. (In a way, easier for working adults to cope with)

Just abit info, a typical DBA will consist 12 units (which require Assignment & Exam) and average number of words per Assignment is about 6000words. (12*6000=72,000words). A typical DBA thesis is about 60,000-70,000 words. While PhD is between 100,000-130,000words. [This is HBS course structure for DBA and PhD] .....

Maybe in Malaysia, there is this perception that DBA is academically lesser than a PhD but according to HBS, that's not the case. Most business schools around the world that offers DBA, try their best to follow the structure used by HBS as they are the benchmark. (Even Malaysian Universities, example MMU, UKM, USM, OUM etc)

I guess is safe not to under-estimate the value of DBA degrees.

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munhong
post Apr 16 2012, 02:38 AM

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Just received an offer letter from OUM for their DBA (May 2012 Intake).

Year 1: Rm14,400
Year 2: Rm14,400
Year 3: Rm6,180
Year 4: Rm6,180
Total: Rm41,160


What do you guys think about OUM ? (Please note: OUM only offers part-time courses)


MMU: Rm61,900 (FT 3years)
UCSI: Rm54,600 (FT 3years)
IIUM: RM48,000 (FT 3-4years)
UKM: Rm44,000 (FT 3.5years)
HELP(U): Rm42,000 (FT 2.5-4.5years)
UUM: Rm36,080 (FT 2.5-3.5years at Razzen Business School)
USM: Rm28,350 (FT 3.5years)



Cheers.

This post has been edited by munhong: Apr 16 2012, 03:00 AM
munhong
post Apr 16 2012, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Wang @ Apr 16 2012, 08:32 AM)
What I think about OUM? The first thing that comes up in mind is this uni is for those working people who can't give 100% focus on their study. Another thing is since it is only for those that do part time, lecturers expectation on their students tend to be lower. These are my perceptions on OUM.
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Thanks Mr Wang. Appreciate it. smile.gif

I do agree with you, where OUM's students are all working adults and couldn't focus on studying full-time.

However, Professor's expectation does not change compared to most Private Universities in Malaysia. (I have spoken to DBA Professors from MMU, UCSI & UUM on their course structure, exam format, assignment and pass-rate)
Most Universities are offering DBA with 10-12 modules (50/50 assignment & exams, some modules requires presentation) and thesis (averaging about 65,000words).

In terms of high quality expectation, UKM & USM requires all DBA students to maintain a minimum 3.0CGPA in order to graduate from their course.

To maintain 3.0 CGPA in a doctorate level degree is quite tough. (But I'm sure some students are capable of doing so)

Cheers everyone.
munhong
post Apr 19 2012, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(Protoculture @ Apr 16 2012, 05:46 PM)
Please be reminded, doctorate studies either DBA or PhD-BA offered at OUM specifically designed towards working adults. This means it is more structured, flexible as for these adult learners to plan & manage their doctorate studies without having to sacrifice their careers.

OUM already have doctorate students graduated in all 5 PhD (Business Admin / Education / Science / Engineering / IT) courses offered at the University. Yes, it is all research basis that required thesis dissertation.

My personal view, irregardless of any University in Malaysia, if you're willing to sacrifice valuable time, finance in order to pursue doctoral studies, deserve a salute. Because many pursuing PhDs always either make it or break it halfway.

But, the fact some adult learners willing to juggle family, work, personal life with studies at the same time, earn more respect from me.
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I guess most people forgotten that doctorate courses requires external examiner from other universities.

All doctoral students required to defend their thesis in the viva voce, where external examiners must attend.
That's how Universities ensure all thesis are at the doctoral-level research.

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munhong
post Apr 20 2012, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Wang @ Apr 20 2012, 03:22 AM)
Even at masters level got external examiner la. Except masters by coursework.
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That's true. Most doctoral courses have external examiner, however for masters, only by research based (Example: MPhil etc).
I didn't know we are discussing master's degrees as well.

Cheers Mr.Wang smile.gif

This post has been edited by munhong: Apr 20 2012, 10:07 PM
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post Jul 12 2012, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(cutiepooh @ Jun 26 2012, 10:06 AM)
Which one is more better in both working and for the future ,if there is a chance to join and lecture in the Uni/College?
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Hi cutiepooh,

To answer your question, if you are 100% certain for an Academic Career, PHD is your choice. DBA might only limits your success in an Academic Environment.

However, to counter argue that statement, the Assistant Professor/Deputy Dean (Business School) from UniRazak holds a DBA degree from Australia. He was recently nominated as the lead writer for the Entrepreneurship Global Report for 2012. (Click here - Dr Roland)

Interms of opportunity and salary scale in the Academic Industry, fresh DBA holders are offer competitive salary.
For example, Swinburne University of Technology (Sarawak) is offering minimum Rm6000 for Doctorate holders (PhD & DBA). (Click here - Swinburne Uni's Salary Scale)
Please note: Taylor's, Monash, Nottingham & Public Universities accept both Doctorate (PhD & DBA) as equal.

All the best. Good luck.

Cheers.


 

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