BTW, did any everyone noticed that Sierra 8 is with gate, while for Sierra 1 & Sierra 2 is gate less!!! but I'm sure ioi is replica DPC in Puchong as 16Sierra. FYI SA confirmed there was Raff... international school primary & secondary beside Sierra 8.

Which SA told you this news? Why no such thing in the master plan?

There was reserve land for government school & commercial land for international school which is in pink and beside Sierra 8!!! BTW as you pass by Sierra8 & towards ioi gallery on your left, you can see some construction is ongoing!!!

There was reserve land for government school & commercial land for international school which is in pink and beside Sierra 8!!! BTW as you pass by Sierra8 & towards ioi gallery on your left, you can see some construction is ongoing!!!

nowadays, there are plenty of international school....so, seriously no big deal....There will be one in Bukit puchong too...

It doesnt mean it will be a good investment by just having international school......

Matthew, I read you are fed up with paying maintenance.  I know Lyden has perimeter fencing and a guard house but no guards.  So, if all owners decide against paying, there would be no guards at all right?

Do you think the houses will appreciate to more than a million without security? Just asking as I was interested in 16 Sierra too, but that time was about RM500k only.

Lyden comes with guardhouse and guards ... with home alarm system integrated to guardhouse. ..

It definately not overprice in future, but future, 2 years later, 5 years later or 10 years later? To me 22x75 in this location is definately overprice for now and even the next 2 years. Eventhough they provide good material and quality finishing to the house. To me this definately overprice, at least now and next two years. I am not sure this project got dibs or not but if no dibs probably the cost will be at least 800k, this price better go for other better choice ... U like the area and for own stay yes. But investment, ehhem ... Can sell 1m later?

When you sign up to purchase, all purchasers are made to sign this document stating that you it is mandatory for every unit to pay a certain fee which is to be decided upon by the committee for the services of guards. With that document, it is a legal obligation that the owner or tenant pays his/her share. Let me see tonight if I can find out what is the title of the document. How much of course will be determined later when we determine which security services are engaged. Yes, if all owners decide against paying, then there will be no guards though I think that is quite unlikely. Even cheaper residential areas are doing so. I hope Lyden purchasers are not that stingy lol

I am paying over RM200+ and I heard it will go up further this year. I would say at Lyden, the rate probably would not be that high. Of course the convenience of not carrying a load of stuff up and down a condo is a factor as well.

Their earlier double storey house project which I recall sold for RM448,900, I called one of the agents up, they are asking for RM700k+ sub sale recently. And I noticed they already have guards now that residents have moved in. Not too sure whether the guards are from IOI or not. But I was told we can use their existing guard services or choose our own security firm. Can't remember if I heard it correctly or not.

As for appreciation, honestly, I really don't know. Even for myself who has been working for a developer for the past 9 years, I can't tell. Analyst keeps saying prices will go up a further 10-15% this year. But how sustainable that is, that remains to be seen. All I know is, our upcoming project would be in the region of under RM750k, and the built up isn't as large as Lyden's 22x75. The only plus point to ours is it's freehold and our price in comparison to other developers. That's why it sell.

That news just means bad news for end users like us who wants to buy landed properties without being too far from our ideal location.

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Added on February 14, 2012, 9:25 am
I was told otherwise. Home alarm is stand alone. Not linked to guard house. It comes with guardhouse, but the guards are not provided free. The owners will have to pay for it, be it by using IOI services or by engaging our own security firm.

So the question still remains...... property going higher...or bubble?... i guess most probably the price will go up slightly....cuz bank negara would not let any property buble burst.... i think most of the time the effected areas during recession would be shah alam and those un strategic areas....wheere people do not have holding power....for eg.... 1997/1998 did damansara prices drop?? never.... the price maintains.... the only difference is it  didnt go up

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Added on February 14, 2012, 9:30 am
Well, as for me I bought it not for investment but as a home. Overpriced? Yes when compared to 1-2 years back. If you ask me, all properties are overpriced now coz every developer is following the trend. If it's for investment, indeed, look elsewhere.

If you ask me, all properties are overpriced now coz every developer is following the trend.

110% agreed.

But we must also remember... cost of material is rising....and land is getting scarce...

But we must also remember... cost of material is rising....and land is getting scarce...