same to u mate on the second car for the family
i like the dedication in presenting the comparison table and of course we can do research as much as we want
but in the end of the day what the missus like thats all that matter

why dont we have the configurator like others got outside?
i mean got the basic price and people want what they want then add up la.
then add up sure got price increase
this system may cost more but in the end we pay what we want, and it also can give better definition 'value for money' according to personal specific

market size is a problem? i dont think so.

i would say yes. but, just.

the premium over the basic spec 1.8L is nearly 5k. and with all the gadgetry i.e leather seats (outside install maybe 2k average), push start button keyless entry keyless start ( another 2k? if install outside ), etc, however the best bit the hybrid is CBU which means quality should be top notch.
a new powerful engine is another new stuff but i dont quite agree with the price tag actually.

people keep asking about test driving the hybrid, but so far i dont see any branch offering it

been reading through lots been said about resale value is not important. which absolutely not true. yes buy car has never been an investment and nobody saying it is an investment in the first place. so save the argument 'investment buy house blah blah blah'

except for maybe very rare ones. which surely not a single people here can afford.

resale value is actually a summarization of a brand strength. and confidence. some of the time yes demand plays a part but most of the time people just buy what they have confidence in. resale value is a good indicator whether one particular brand doing good over here or not. and mind u great resale value is not something u can have by doing business in 2-3-4-5 years. it is a product of perhaps 10-20 years of GREAT services.

we got to admit the japanese done good. except maybe for mazda but they are coming back. you may buy what ever u want but discarding resale value IS NOT WISE


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the car is already in honda sg petani. and they will sort out the documents, NCD, blah blah blah. if not next week then perhaps next week of the next week. i guess this will be it - buy without test driving.

This post has been edited by mokhzaini: Jul 20 2012, 11:49 PM

said rate is by promotional, how much DP is irrelevant. its on going only until dec this year between rhb n honda malaysia

zweimmk, the 2 litre u tested, was it fd or fb? U put it 2.0 S, i forgot fd or fb. Hehe.

If fd i think okay la.because the double cam sure bit quiet.but fb got single cam which is going to be a bit noisy.i hope they insulate the cabin well no excessive sound can go in.

Gone to possibly all SCs i familiar with in the northern region.apart from Formula Venture butterworth - they got one unit running, it is on trade plate, wonder why but crazy que - i cant find any test drive cars.

I hope everythings well. Hows the missus car? Arriving soon?

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Added on July 21, 2012, 9:49 amselling the car doesnt necessarily an indication of it is not a good car. For example, upgrade. Family members adding up. Keeping with times. Downgrading. Etc etc. Actually it has never been any relation between selling a car (with good resale value) and that car is not good. If that car is no longer good, thats another story lah.
So when the time come for whatever reason of getting a new vehicle, of course resale value does matter (unless u are keeping the car)

If it is not a good car then dont buy it in the first place .

But it is a bad omen in my close circles to talk about selling something even before u buy it. That i agree on fully.


This post has been edited by mokhzaini: Jul 21 2012, 09:49 AM

indeed an interesting strategy from Kia. which means i think from now on Kia will reduce model lifespan from normally 7 or 8 to maybe 5 or 6. say they launch this year end, so maybe take 2 or 3 years top to CKD malaysia. looking at forte launched back in 2010 so this means... forte life cycle is 5 or 6 years.

i hope they dont screw up the current forte as well as the other models. but shorter model life cycle means faster can becoming ... old?

bigger question is: are we getting the facelift as they confirmed in the US?

can u confirm this? or this is hot hot chicken shite?

very fast.
booked in april get only this week.

anyway congratulation on the new civic!



and for those who still undecided about the colour, this is the white

it is still at the shop.
i am doing retention on the number plate, the old car needs to undergo puspakom
that may take a day or two nowadays puspakom u need to book first no more go direct
we are looking at maybe thursday or friday

blessing in disguise also these little niggling delays, so that my loan date becomes later.

thats the thing. he told me jpj having problem as well.
why is that happen?

i am itching! u know la the feeling, right. hehe.
nevermind, i told him in no uncertain way, do not go beyond this week

he took 2 days to clear the NCD thing. i thought it can be done just by click this-that, and thats it? no?


realllyyyyyyyyyyy impatientttttttttt

havent. but it is at the showroom. he gave me the frame number...? the thing they stick on the windscreen?
paid everything on sunday but till now havent got any clue when it is coming out
i told him in very specific way this cannot go beyond this week. and this week means working days saturday sunday are not included

i have been patient to see whats going on although we both know what it feels about waiting.
if he does exceed friday then i'll made hell out of him. rain the fire.

there were a lot of trucks on the road yesterday, they carried civics. no other models just civic
it seems they are pushing for delivery in the nearest time. but i saw them in penang mostly
dont forget to check car that allocated to u. just to please the heart hehe

if the SA is pretty quick maybe tomorrow can clear the documentation. just wait on monday or tuesday.

congratulation mannn!

the other thing included in my case is i am doing number plate retention.
which means the old car needs to undergo puspakom. i asked him to do everything as i dont really have the time and patience to go wait there. furthermore puspakom nowadays u need to book first the time and date to send your car there. i wouldnt dare to pay the rest of the downpayment if i wasnt sure the car is there.

last sunday i paid the rest of DP for the car
then monday he said take back NCD and tuesday confirmed everything about NCD solved
then both of us stopped contacting each other and to be honest i dont want to because i want to see how things go first. i strictly told him not to go beyond this week and i am giving him all the time and all the spaces he (might) need to do these stuffs.

so if he has to go beyond this week, maybe after some smiles and sure the keys are in my possession, i definitely WILL RAIN THE FIRE on him. maybe official complaint.

see. this is what i like dealing with human. we can kautim and everybody sui sui

but only with the RIGHT human.

my NCD took 4 days to be upload or online or whatdaF.
i just bashed him on the phone just now.
no more dream this week. now next week.

this getting ridicolous. how on earth something online took a few days to settle?

and he mentioned about whatever jpj tax this that i dont bother to listen at all.
are those true?



i will rain him the fire next week. an official complaint letter. in japanese.
to report about japanese brand, u got to write in japanese so that the SA and the dealer owner know where the letter is heading to and how dead serious u are.



google translator?

This post has been edited by mokhzaini: Jul 26 2012, 08:41 PM

he just texted me about kastam excise duty?
i was like ... whaddafcuk?
kastam excise duty? jesus christ whats going on

and as for NCD, he told me last sunday when i put all the DP he was going to handle it the very next day, and by tuesday when i texted him he said done about NCD. so it was about 2 days? 3 days maximum how do i know he bluffed me or not. and he was going to handle those number plate retention thing. then i decided not to contact him until just now when i bashed him kaw.

i asked him how many f days he needs and he told me next week latest tuesday. this time i took it like he said nothing considering the earlier promise about friday and i insisted do not go beyond this week. he should have comeback and update me on this. instead i need to contact him then only he told me these shite.

i am drafting the letter is english tonight and maybe convert to japanese later. will check again with my japan educated friends

kastam excise duty.. really? and if it does, 5 days and not cleared? sweet lord.

2.0L non navi. hybrid was a close second option but decided 2.0L.

i am buying from a dealer at sg petani.
theres only one there. look it up.