With the way Japanese Marques are pricing their cars these days, why are you even surprised? Toyota did it with their Camry. Honda lost the plot with both the Freed and Jazz. They keep this rubbish up and more people will go Korean or Conti. The market ain't like it was back in 2004, 2006 or 2008. People actually have more compelling choices these days.

OTR?

The price is ok and pretty good looking. It will sell well because its a Civic. Accept the fact, good quality stuff sell well. Reputation, u gotta earn it. The dashboard might be plasticky but so what. I own a Honda and after 3 years and 80000km, no problem, no rattling. Dont cont come to this thread just to justify why u bought a Korean. If u are happy with ur car, then yes good for u. But not everyone wants to gamble or deal with lousy after sale service.

Just test drove the new civic 2.0 in sumber auto just now!

Power: Not up to what i expected. The previous civic 2.0 felt more powerful.

Steering feel: i think this is the best partof thecar. Feel is superb and well weighted. Compared to the new elantra, the civics steering feel is Lightyears ahead.

Ride and handling: Superb! Just shows how far ahead the Japs are compared to the KoreAns which i recently test drove.

Dashboard might not be to everyones liking but its ok for me.

My wife may be interested if can really get 2k discount for the 1.8s

Yes, its Naza. I've had personal experience with the KIA Spectra and I've also had 3 friends who practically swore off buying a car from Naza because of their bad experience with Peugeot. My wife's end have 2 friends who are Forte owners and 2 Peugeot owners. IMO, I didn't think the feedback about the Forte was too negative but I think she rather just avoid the issue altogether for total peace of mind.

In the end, I think despite her being impressed with the Forte, she personally isn't comfortable with the idea of buying Korean and still prefers the Japanese makes on the whole.

Btw, she's buying the 1.8s so she's not paying 20k more for the high spec. We've gone over the specs of the Civic and we're actually paying for the following with 20k extra:

1. Paddle shifters (not important)
2. HID lights (Nice to have but can live without for her. IMO, this issue can easily be resolved by ordering the 9th gen protector headlamps from Thailand and getting the Phillips Xenon kit, probably won't cost more than 3.5k in total)
3. Push Start Smart Entry (Again appealing but ultimately not important)
4. Leather seats (can wrap outside for 2k)
5. Electric driver seat (the current city also manual so no difference)
6. 2 more airbags (important but what to do? Just deal with it loh)
7. Signal lamp on wing mirrors instead of on the car body (vanity appeal can live without)
8. Cruise Control (not important since never go outstation)
9. Handles chrome instead of body color (not important)
10. 2.0 Engine instead of 1.8 (more power but also pay more road tax)

At RM 133K (OTR), i think the current Mazda 6 2.0L would be a good choice.

if our car industry was an open market, it would'nt be hard. look at the US, koreans sell remarkably there.

civic sound abit thristy with those kind of FC even on Econ mode...

lucky i saw this

might really reconsider getting one as i prefer a lower consp car
what about the hybrid civic? why less demand?

bro, i don't think i have ever seen a new model launched which is priced cheaper than its previous version. the price increase for 2.0 is about 2K. if you averaged out 2K over ~5 years, and factor in the inflation, and some of the features given and also the new 5 years warranty - i dont think the buyers are any worse off. i think the debate between SOHC vs. DOHC will be never ending, but to the normal users - i dont think the difference will be obvious.

btw, i dont understand when ppl debate over if a car is value for money. i always see a car as a lifestyle, and a choice. i've already accepted the fact tht owning a car in malaysia will never be cheap. so the question should always be - how much you are willing to spend? not which offers the best value.. cars that are so called value for money usually have an underlying reason why they are priced lower.. right? haha

Hey last I recall, years ago you bought the Honda city right?