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post Jan 28 2013, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(komputer @ Jan 28 2013, 11:26 AM)
Does Papago give you live traffic info and advises on reroutes based on traffic conditions? tongue.gif
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MFM was supposed to launch TMC with Papago. The project faced too many variables. Controlling and broadcasting traffic was a major setback. First there is a need to address the information. where the traffic jam is, and to what extent that it requires rerouting. then there's the question of when. Traffic jam on that road, starts when ? ends when ? who's gonna update that information. Then there's also the question of which rerouting should it bring you to ?
Also the question arises, which road should we take care of . Nobody can take care of every single road in Msia. So if you just concentrate on major roads such as highways and expressways, what can be done to ensure that the re-routing is more efficient ? nobody is looking at smaller roads hence traffic is unknown.

i highly doubt Waze can provide you an efficient TMC. MFM has more followers and data flowing in than users of Waze. IF MFM can hit and surpass that glitch, i believe Waze will have a chance. But as of now, MFM and papago has hit that wall, and i bet you Waze cannot even answer the questions above nor do they know of the indication.

As report, even hitz.fm traffic report only reports the major roads. Does not even give you a bypass route.

Waze users rely on each other. Who updates the live traffic nobody knows. And how reliable also nobody knows. Wrong or right info also nobody knows. Bypass routes also nobody knows. whether the bypass routes are as jammed up also nobody knows.

I dont think its wise to use such tech when its not implemented properly.



And TMC is an old tech. It's so old, nobody really bothers about it. Papago and MFM should be in the midst of a breakthrough project currently. i think should be halfway done by now. The project should serve ppl much better in ways i cannot reveal.
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post Jan 28 2013, 12:03 PM

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Damn why papago don't wanna update for 4.2.1 ishhhh

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how about M11, just release couple of days ago....

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?....papago.M11SGMY

anyone try it ?
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post Jan 28 2013, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(2uk3y @ Jan 28 2013, 12:18 PM)
how about M11, just release couple of days ago....

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?....papago.M11SGMY

anyone try it ?
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hmm.gif is this suppose to replace m9?
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post Jan 28 2013, 12:39 PM

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Two screenshots I got from M9 after I input "leisure mall" into the search into POI :-

Can someone tell me what is this screen below is all about ?

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This is the result I got :-
( Only Johor result is coming back )

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Why lar like this ?


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post Jan 28 2013, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jan 28 2013, 12:39 PM)
Two screenshots I got from M9 after I input "leisure mall" into  the search into POI :-

Can someone tell me what is this screen below is all about ?

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This is the result I got :-
( Only Johor result is coming back )

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Why lar like this ?
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looks okay for mine tho.

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puchongite
post Jan 28 2013, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(fisherman10 @ Jan 28 2013, 12:44 PM)
looks okay for mine tho.

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What is the meaning of the first screen anyway ?

What is "SPACE" and the '1/1' and the grid all about ?

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post Jan 28 2013, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jan 28 2013, 12:39 PM)
Two screenshots I got from M9 after I input "leisure mall" into  the search into POI :-

Can someone tell me what is this screen below is all about ?

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This is the result I got :-
( Only Johor result is coming back )

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Why lar like this ?
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already update your maps? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jan 28 2013, 12:49 PM)
What is the meaning of the first screen anyway ?

What is "SPACE" and the '1/1' and the grid all about ?
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no idea about that tho. never bothered about it. Just straight tap on "Search" at the bottom.
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post Jan 28 2013, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(fisherman10 @ Jan 28 2013, 12:55 PM)
no idea about that tho. never bothered about it. Just straight tap on "Search" at the bottom.
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The gridbox which has the word "SPACE" on it is clickable. If you click on it (maybe accidentally), the screen will change to like mine.

Then you do a search, you will get only 'Johor' result coming back.

That's what have been confusing me. LOL.


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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jan 28 2013, 01:00 PM)
The gridbox which has the word "SPACE" on it is clickable. If you click on it (maybe accidentally), the screen will change to like mine.

Then you do a search, you will get only 'Johor' result coming back.

That's what have been confusing me. LOL.
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Okay lemme explain. When you type "leisure mall" and then tap search, it'll search the database for "leisure mall".

However when you type "leisure mall" and then tap the word SPACE there, it actually adds a space in the search box. So now it'll search the database for "leisure mall " (notice the space after mall?)

after you tap on SPACE, u'll notice there are other alphabets in the gridbox. Try tap on it and you'll see your search term in the search box with additional alphabets also. That gridbox is actually like a big version of onscreen keyboard.
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post Jan 28 2013, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(fisherman10 @ Jan 28 2013, 01:19 PM)
Okay lemme explain. When you type "leisure mall" and then tap search, it'll search the database for "leisure mall".

However when you type "leisure mall" and then tap the word SPACE there, it actually adds a space in the search box. So now it'll search the database for "leisure mall " (notice the space after mall?)

after you tap on SPACE, u'll notice there are other alphabets in the gridbox. Try tap on it and you'll see your search term in the search box with additional alphabets also. That gridbox is actually like a big version of onscreen keyboard.
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Why you tap the SPACE then only Johor result coming back ?

Why got funny alphabets one ?

Haha does not sound convincing to me lar.

I think it's some kind of bug or some kind of corruption somewhere.

And does not sound like a quality software.




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QUOTE(2uk3y @ Jan 28 2013, 12:18 PM)
how about M11, just release couple of days ago....

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?....papago.M11SGMY

anyone try it ?
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i may give it a try. i was using m9 for a while, but constant crashing made me switch to sygic. ill wait for more reviews first.
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post Jan 28 2013, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jan 28 2013, 01:27 PM)
Why you tap the SPACE then only Johor result coming back ?

Why got funny alphabets one ?

Haha does not sound convincing to me lar.

I think it's some kind of bug or some kind of corruption somewhere.

And does not sound like a quality software.
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haiya. what's so hard to understand. when you tap space, your search term becomes "leisure mall ". Look at your Johor search results. "Giant Leisure Mall Tmn Pelangi", "Watson Leisure Mall Pelangi", "Leisure Mall Parking".

All of the Johor search results have "leisure mall "


Now if you type "leisure mall" (no space after mall) and and look at my results. "Giant@Cheras Leisure Mall", "GSC Cheras Leisure Mall", "Leisure Mall".
All doesnt have "Leisure Mall ".

So if you tap on SPACE, your search term becomes "Leisure Mall ". Of course nothing from cheras comes out because the cheras leisure mall doesnt have a SPACE in the database.

And the alphabets are NOT funny. Try this. type "Leisure Mall". Then tap on SPACE, then tap on P. now tap search.

Go back, then now tap on A. then tap search.

It's actually narrowing down your search results based on what's left in the database. See what I mean?
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post Jan 28 2013, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(fisherman10 @ Jan 28 2013, 01:42 PM)
haiya. what's so hard to understand. when you tap space, your search term becomes "leisure mall ". Look at your Johor search results. "Giant Leisure Mall Tmn Pelangi", "Watson Leisure Mall Pelangi", "Leisure Mall Parking".

All of the Johor search results have "leisure mall "
Now if you type "leisure mall" (no space after mall) and and look at my results. "Giant@Cheras Leisure Mall", "GSC Cheras Leisure Mall", "Leisure Mall".
All doesnt have "Leisure Mall ".

So if you tap on SPACE, your search term becomes "Leisure Mall ". Of course nothing from cheras comes out because the cheras leisure mall doesnt have a SPACE in the database.

And the alphabets are NOT funny. Try this. type "Leisure Mall". Then tap on SPACE, then tap on P. now tap search.

Go back, then now tap on A. then tap search.

It's actually narrowing down your search results based on what's left in the database. See what I mean?
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Thanks for taking time explaining it to me.

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Anyway it's world of graphical user interface these days.

I could not understand why they have to use such "non-intuitive" way to narrow the searches.
It almost needs a genius like you to understand what it is !

And I happen to be a non-genius. LOL.

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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Jan 28 2013, 12:37 PM)
hmm.gif is this suppose to replace m9?
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not sure about it, but since M9 never reach Google Play, i think M11 is the stable version (hope so) sweat.gif

QUOTE(archinkent @ Jan 28 2013, 01:28 PM)
i may give it a try. i was using m9 for a while, but constant crashing made me switch to sygic. ill wait for more reviews first.
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hope u can give some feedback after try it. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jan 28 2013, 01:46 PM)
Thanks for taking time explaining it to me.

smile.gif

Anyway it's world of graphical user interface these days.

I could not understand why they have to use such "non-intuitive" way to narrow the searches.
It almost needs a genius like you to understand what it is !

And I happen to be a non-genius. LOL.
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LOL. you're welcome.

I think they use that grid way of narrowing coz it's based on the standalone gps version where people want big alphabets in grids to make it easier to tap while driving or while it is mounted on the windscreen.
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QUOTE(UpCar @ Jan 28 2013, 11:45 AM)
MFM was supposed to launch TMC with Papago. The project faced too many variables. Controlling and broadcasting traffic was a major setback. First there is a need to address the information. where the traffic jam is, and to what extent that it requires rerouting. then there's the question of when. Traffic jam on that road, starts when ? ends when ? who's gonna update that information. Then there's also the question of which rerouting should it bring you to ?
Also the question arises, which road should we take care of . Nobody can take care of every single road in Msia. So if you just concentrate on major roads such as highways and expressways, what can be done to ensure that the re-routing is more efficient ? nobody is looking at smaller roads hence traffic is unknown.

i highly doubt Waze can provide you an efficient TMC. MFM has more followers and data flowing in than users of Waze.  IF MFM can hit and surpass that glitch, i believe Waze will have a chance. But as of now, MFM and papago has hit that wall, and i bet you Waze cannot even answer the questions above nor do they know of the indication.

As report, even hitz.fm traffic report only reports the major roads. Does not even give you a bypass route.

Waze users rely on each other. Who updates the live traffic nobody knows. And how reliable also nobody knows. Wrong or right info also nobody knows. Bypass routes also nobody knows. whether the bypass routes are as jammed up also nobody knows.

I dont think its wise to use such tech when its not implemented properly.
And TMC is an old tech. It's so old, nobody really bothers about it. Papago and MFM should be in the midst of a breakthrough project currently. i think should be halfway done by now. The project should serve ppl much better in ways i cannot reveal.
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Your ignorance shines through. Tell your bosses at Papago and M3 Asia that their product are about to be made irrelevant by free to use apps such as Google Maps & Waze.
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i dont work for papago. i am attached with MFM, the makers of malaysian maps which take for free and give back for free. we serve as a community for the community. not a single cent was ever paid, and not a single cent was ever received.

google maps is good. i like google maps. very innovative. however routing from them isn't excellent as our country is just to small for them to pay attention on.

Waze still has a long way to go. i'm not saying they aren't good but they are just not there yet. Waze contacted MFM offering to buy the route and data plans that we own. We do not sell therefore they have to start from scratch like how we started from scratch.


standalone units will never be irrelavant. It will always serve its purpose. battery life on your mobile device will not last long. sure you can argue that you have powerbanks and car chargers. however, there are situations that require you to roam freely without them. And furthermore, those apps require data. lets see you roam the whole of malaysia without having a signal loss on cell and data.

if you do not believe i am attached with MFM, please feel free to pm this user and ask him instead.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=6065

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Plz dont argue which the best. if u dont like, just dont use it. that it, full stop.

each got pro n con, so just search and judge it by yourself.

so now back to the topic.

so i got a question, is it true about the new M11 that release in Google Play?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?....papago.M11SGMY

can it truly use MFM map for X8.5 or X9 ?

TQ

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