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post Feb 4 2013, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(zeese @ Feb 4 2013, 09:11 AM)
MFM just provides a free map. You still needs to buy the hardware or software.
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You missed my point.

MFM claims it's a community effort and providing free map.

But MFM only works with non-commercial GPS vendors and feeding them with the free map.

There are other free GPS software around, but none of them are not able to use the MFM free maps.

What's the meaning ?
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post Feb 5 2013, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 4 2013, 09:57 AM)
You missed my point.

MFM claims it's a community effort and providing free map.

But MFM only works with non-commercial GPS vendors and feeding them with the free map.

There are other free GPS software around, but none of them are not able to use the MFM free maps.

What's the meaning ?
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the meaning is simple. Nobody uses those free softwares.

We at MFM provide free maps and try to cater to malaysians. Majority of malaysians use Garmin and Papago. Tourists that come in uses igo, tomtom and others.

With the little manpower that we have, since everyone works for free, maintaning and making maps for each and every brand out there is ridiculous. too time consuming.

You don't get to complain what you get for free. You dont even contribute nor do u spend the time to help out the community. If you really want to make maps for the community for another navigation software, i am more than happy to help you out. I will teach you how to map, so u maintain it, and distribute it for free. But it is very time consuming. There are other stuff u will need to fulfill as well but then again, if you're willing to start, then i'm willing to teach. Just make sure u keep your pet project alive and completely give it out for free.

Otherwise, stop complaining and don't tell me what MFM should do or should not do. You want to start a project for a navi software, go on by all means. We at MFM might help you out. Just make sure u dont give up and quite halfway through. And dont charge a single cent nor do u get to pocket any profits as there will be none.



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QUOTE(UpCar @ Feb 5 2013, 10:50 AM)
the meaning is simple. Nobody uses those free softwares.

We at MFM provide free maps and try to cater to malaysians. Majority of malaysians use Garmin and Papago. Tourists that come in uses igo, tomtom and others.

With the little manpower that we have, since everyone works for free, maintaning and making maps for each and every brand out there is ridiculous. too time consuming.

You don't get to complain what you get for free. You dont even contribute nor do u spend the time to help out the community. If you really want to make maps for the community for another navigation software, i am more than happy to help you out. I will teach you how to map, so u maintain it, and distribute it for free. But it is very time consuming. There are other stuff u will need to fulfill as well but then again, if you're willing to start, then i'm willing to teach. Just make sure u keep your pet project alive and completely give it out for free.

Otherwise, stop complaining and don't tell me what MFM should do or should not do. You want to start a project for a navi software, go on by all means. We at MFM might help you out. Just make sure u dont give up and quite halfway through. And dont charge a single cent nor do u get to pocket any profits as there will be none.
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QUOTE(UpCar @ Feb 5 2013, 10:50 AM)
the meaning is simple. Nobody uses those free softwares.

We at MFM provide free maps and try to cater to malaysians. Majority of malaysians use Garmin and Papago. Tourists that come in uses igo, tomtom and others.

With the little manpower that we have, since everyone works for free, maintaning and making maps for each and every brand out there is ridiculous. too time consuming.

You don't get to complain what you get for free. You dont even contribute nor do u spend the time to help out the community. If you really want to make maps for the community for another navigation software, i am more than happy to help you out. I will teach you how to map, so u maintain it, and distribute it for free. But it is very time consuming. There are other stuff u will need to fulfill as well but then again, if you're willing to start, then i'm willing to teach. Just make sure u keep your pet project alive and completely give it out for free.

Otherwise, stop complaining and don't tell me what MFM should do or should not do. You want to start a project for a navi software, go on by all means. We at MFM might help you out. Just make sure u dont give up and quite halfway through. And dont charge a single cent nor do u get to pocket any profits as there will be none.
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was about to reply the same thing!

here is the short draft that i saved in my gmail

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there is no hidden agenda behind all these.

GPS navigation system first started on these navigation hardware before they were available on smartphones as installable softwares.

Logic wise, MFM just supports these systems because there user base is very big. it is only natural to support the widely used systems in Malaysia.

would things be different if there were free or open source system that is widely used since years ago? yes it would. i love free softwares too, esp open source ones.

you can download the maps and modify it to work for your free software choice, there are guides on how to do it icon_rolleyes.gif


that being said, puchongite, which free software are you using? how good is it? if more people use it, then it'll be a good MFM project thumbup.gif
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to map the whole of malaysia was very time consuming, labour intensive and costs quite a fair bit.

stimix and i had a tough time but we enjoyed and delivered.

i dont know about stimix but my contribution towards MFM has reached its milestone. Nowdays i'm not very active anymore but i still hand in a few notes and pointers and poi's. i think stimix's contribution also has declined very much. we both peaked out a long time ago. but we never left and we still contribute the data and pointers every now and then.

stimix dei u still got contribute in there ka ?
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post Feb 5 2013, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(UpCar @ Feb 5 2013, 10:50 AM)
the meaning is simple. Nobody uses those free softwares.
Oh really ? People don't use it, it is because they are not using free software, or it is because the maps are not available ?

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You don't get to complain what you get for free.You dont even contribute nor do u spend the time to help out the community.
Oh really ? Is that how Linus Torvalds handles feedback :- "Hey guys accept it, don't complain of Linux bugs or bad quality or whatever, you don't even contribute to it! And you did not even pay for it ! "

I like this attitude so much. smile.gif

Others are snipped anyway. Good luck !

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QUOTE(azrash @ Feb 5 2013, 02:16 PM)
was about to reply the same thing!

here is the short draft that i saved in my gmail
that being said, puchongite, which free software are you using? how good is it? if more people use it, then it'll be a good MFM project thumbup.gif
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A quick search of the net revealed this as the result.

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/top-3-free-of...s-apps-android/

There are a few other very popular ones in China. Baidu and so on for example.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 5 2013, 03:33 PM)
Oh really ? People don't use it, it is because they are not using free software, or it is because the maps are not available ?
Oh really ? Is that how Linus Torvalds handles feedback :- "Hey guys accept it, don't complain of Linux bugs or bad quality or whatever, you don't even contribute to it! And you did not even pay for it ! "

I like this attitude so much. smile.gif

Others are snipped anyway. Good luck !
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he is just being honest and stating his opinion. again, you are playing the chicken vs egg argument. if someone start porting the maps, then maybe more users would jump in. so why don't you team up with some people and get started?

I personally have started using Waze since M9 is not compatible with my Nexus 4. it seems good so far. might go back to using MFM when M11 is stable enough. MFM is still better for kampung roads etc.

This post has been edited by azrash: Feb 5 2013, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 5 2013, 03:33 PM)
Oh really ? People don't use it, it is because they are not using free software, or it is because the maps are not available ?
Oh really ? Is that how Linus Torvalds handles feedback :- "Hey guys accept it, don't complain of Linux bugs or bad quality or whatever, you don't even contribute to it! And you did not even pay for it ! "

I like this attitude so much. smile.gif

Others are snipped anyway. Good luck !
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cakap banyak takde guna.

i already offered. u wanna start mapping, i teach. just make sure u know what you're getting into and hand your stuff out for free. if u dont even wanna initiate, u just talk only what's the point ?


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QUOTE(UpCar @ Feb 5 2013, 02:54 PM)
to map the whole of malaysia was very time consuming, labour intensive and costs quite a fair bit.

stimix and i had a tough time but we enjoyed and delivered.

i dont know about stimix but my contribution towards MFM has reached its milestone. Nowdays i'm not very active anymore but i still hand in a few notes and pointers and poi's. i think stimix's contribution also has declined very much. we both peaked out a long time ago. but we never left and we still contribute the data and pointers every now and then.

stimix dei u still got contribute in there ka ?
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QUOTE(stimix @ Feb 5 2013, 07:57 PM)
Semi-retire liao.. Damn.. Unker Sunn has yet to update my Dec tracklogs surrounding Brinchang & Tanah Rata  cry.gif
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jan 30 2013, 01:51 PM)
I always find searching using M9 is a pain in you know where. Lots of places cannot be found but it can be easily found using google map.

Anyone knows what is the best way for me to input search obtained from google map and transfer the coordinates and input to M9 ?

First for the google map mobile, I don't seem to be able to find the GPS coordinate of the place.
On the PC, the google map there is a "where's here" which tells you your coordinate. Can't find that in google map for mobile.

Next if the coordinates are obtained, is there a convenient 'cut and paste' to input to M9 ?
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I am not sure if this has been mentioned by any posters but I found that it is possible to use google map in a browser, and obtain the GPS coordinates.

When using google map in a mobile phone browser such as Chrome, then the same functionality of obtaining GPS coordianates in PC can be used in mobile. Just visit maps.google.com and one could search, zoom, and so on, and finally press and hold until the "where's here" appear on the screen. The GPS coordinates will then appear in the textbox n in the browser.

Now the Google side of the issues are all solved, the limitation is actually Papago.

There is no way to cut and paste the coordinates into Papago. One has to enter the coordinates using Papago provided keypad. Another example of why I said Papago's GUI is VERY primitive.

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 6 2013, 08:24 PM)
I am not sure if this has been mentioned by any posters but I found that it is possible to use google map in a browser, and obtain the GPS coordinates.

When using google map in a mobile phone browser such as Chrome, then the same functionality of obtaining GPS coordianates in PC can be used in mobile. Just visit maps.google.com and one could search, zoom, and so on, and finally press and hold until the "where's here" appear on the screen. The GPS coordinates will then appear in the textbox n in the browser.

Now the Google side of the issues are all solved, the limitation is actually Papago.

There is no way to cut and paste the coordinates into Papago. One has to enter the coordinates using Papago provided keypad. Another example of why I said Papago's GUI is VERY primitive.
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well, use another app which allows copy and paste then.
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QUOTE(fisherman10 @ Feb 6 2013, 08:52 PM)
well, use another app which allows copy and paste then.
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Yeah Sygic seems to support cut-and-paste. But that's offtopic to this thread.

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 6 2013, 09:56 PM)
Yeah Sygic seems to support cut-and-paste. But that's offtopic to this thread.

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here, http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2341461/all
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Is there any Thailand map available? I can't find it in MFM, they only have Garmin map. sad.gif

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