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puchongite
post Jan 28 2013, 11:36 AM

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I have problems with all the GPS software.

I played with these before :-

1. Papago.
2. Sygic.
3. Waze.
4. Google Navigator.

Search wise, the most complete and up-to-date is Google Navigator.
But the tts voice is terrible.

Waze hardly use. Requires to be online all the time, is the major setback.

Sygic seems to have better graphics.
Papago search is rather confusing, some more using wrong name compared to the actual name of the building.

Both Sygic and Papago search is not as convenient and up-to-date as Google.

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post Jan 28 2013, 12:39 PM

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Two screenshots I got from M9 after I input "leisure mall" into the search into POI :-

Can someone tell me what is this screen below is all about ?

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This is the result I got :-
( Only Johor result is coming back )

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Why lar like this ?


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post Jan 28 2013, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(fisherman10 @ Jan 28 2013, 12:44 PM)
looks okay for mine tho.

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What is the meaning of the first screen anyway ?

What is "SPACE" and the '1/1' and the grid all about ?

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post Jan 28 2013, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(fisherman10 @ Jan 28 2013, 12:55 PM)
no idea about that tho. never bothered about it. Just straight tap on "Search" at the bottom.
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The gridbox which has the word "SPACE" on it is clickable. If you click on it (maybe accidentally), the screen will change to like mine.

Then you do a search, you will get only 'Johor' result coming back.

That's what have been confusing me. LOL.


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post Jan 28 2013, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(fisherman10 @ Jan 28 2013, 01:19 PM)
Okay lemme explain. When you type "leisure mall" and then tap search, it'll search the database for "leisure mall".

However when you type "leisure mall" and then tap the word SPACE there, it actually adds a space in the search box. So now it'll search the database for "leisure mall " (notice the space after mall?)

after you tap on SPACE, u'll notice there are other alphabets in the gridbox. Try tap on it and you'll see your search term in the search box with additional alphabets also. That gridbox is actually like a big version of onscreen keyboard.
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Why you tap the SPACE then only Johor result coming back ?

Why got funny alphabets one ?

Haha does not sound convincing to me lar.

I think it's some kind of bug or some kind of corruption somewhere.

And does not sound like a quality software.




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post Jan 28 2013, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(fisherman10 @ Jan 28 2013, 01:42 PM)
haiya. what's so hard to understand. when you tap space, your search term becomes "leisure mall ". Look at your Johor search results. "Giant Leisure Mall Tmn Pelangi", "Watson Leisure Mall Pelangi", "Leisure Mall Parking".

All of the Johor search results have "leisure mall "
Now if you type "leisure mall" (no space after mall) and and look at my results. "Giant@Cheras Leisure Mall", "GSC Cheras Leisure Mall", "Leisure Mall".
All doesnt have "Leisure Mall ".

So if you tap on SPACE, your search term becomes "Leisure Mall ". Of course nothing from cheras comes out because the cheras leisure mall doesnt have a SPACE in the database.

And the alphabets are NOT funny. Try this. type "Leisure Mall". Then tap on SPACE, then tap on P. now tap search.

Go back, then now tap on A. then tap search.

It's actually narrowing down your search results based on what's left in the database. See what I mean?
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Thanks for taking time explaining it to me.

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Anyway it's world of graphical user interface these days.

I could not understand why they have to use such "non-intuitive" way to narrow the searches.
It almost needs a genius like you to understand what it is !

And I happen to be a non-genius. LOL.

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post Jan 30 2013, 01:51 PM

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I always find searching using M9 is a pain in you know where. Lots of places cannot be found but it can be easily found using google map.

Anyone knows what is the best way for me to input search obtained from google map and transfer the coordinates and input to M9 ?

First for the google map mobile, I don't seem to be able to find the GPS coordinate of the place.
On the PC, the google map there is a "where's here" which tells you your coordinate. Can't find that in google map for mobile.

Next if the coordinates are obtained, is there a convenient 'cut and paste' to input to M9 ?




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post Jan 30 2013, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(2uk3y @ Jan 30 2013, 02:20 PM)
Papago is using MFM map, so if u need the place to include in map, u need to contribute to MFM community by sending them the coordinate and place name. So the next map release (1st week every month), your place will be there.

If u find the coordinate, just go to Coordinate option and put it there. after u find it, just save as Favorite.

Hope that help  rolleyes.gif
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Yeah .... But you are not answering my question.

I have found too many places which I could not use the Papago search. If each place I need it updated I have to send to MFM, I will be too busy. wink.gif

So I would rather use Google map search, get the coordinates and find a convenient way to input into Papago.

I already could do this if I have a PC in front of me, but if I could do everything with only the phone, that will be the best. If it is not possible, then the answer to my question is just not possible. I am not expecting miracle. wink.gif
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post Jan 30 2013, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(zazatel @ Jan 30 2013, 02:37 PM)
papago can be used for offline mode. that's y u need to always update the latest one. google map use online connection. if u dont have mobile data, will be a problem to use google map.
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I think you have not tried to understand what I am trying to say.

I am not trying to create competition between google map and papago, on the contrary, I am trying to make papago useful.

Please re-read my posts again, and if you are still helpful enough and wanting to reply, just say 'yes, it is possible' or 'no, it is not possible' to my questions. That will answer my questions. wink.gif

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post Jan 31 2013, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jan 30 2013, 07:21 PM)
if everyone thinks like that, MFM would not exist by today.
everyone has to get busy and contribute to our local MFM community.
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There are many free GPS software around, MFM should better associate themselves with those free GPS software than associating themselves with Papago. It's will make it more convincing that it is a truely community effort, and it will make sure that the community contributing to it, does not go into contributing revenue/profit for the people who sells Papago.
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post Jan 31 2013, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jan 31 2013, 07:20 PM)
MFM currently provides map for Galactio, Garmin, iGO Primo, Mio Polnav & Papago.
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But .... Any of them is free ?
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post Feb 4 2013, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(zeese @ Feb 4 2013, 09:11 AM)
MFM just provides a free map. You still needs to buy the hardware or software.
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You missed my point.

MFM claims it's a community effort and providing free map.

But MFM only works with non-commercial GPS vendors and feeding them with the free map.

There are other free GPS software around, but none of them are not able to use the MFM free maps.

What's the meaning ?
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post Feb 5 2013, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(UpCar @ Feb 5 2013, 10:50 AM)
the meaning is simple. Nobody uses those free softwares.
Oh really ? People don't use it, it is because they are not using free software, or it is because the maps are not available ?

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You don't get to complain what you get for free.You dont even contribute nor do u spend the time to help out the community.
Oh really ? Is that how Linus Torvalds handles feedback :- "Hey guys accept it, don't complain of Linux bugs or bad quality or whatever, you don't even contribute to it! And you did not even pay for it ! "

I like this attitude so much. smile.gif

Others are snipped anyway. Good luck !

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post Feb 5 2013, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(azrash @ Feb 5 2013, 02:16 PM)
was about to reply the same thing!

here is the short draft that i saved in my gmail
that being said, puchongite, which free software are you using? how good is it? if more people use it, then it'll be a good MFM project thumbup.gif
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A quick search of the net revealed this as the result.

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/top-3-free-of...s-apps-android/

There are a few other very popular ones in China. Baidu and so on for example.
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post Feb 6 2013, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jan 30 2013, 01:51 PM)
I always find searching using M9 is a pain in you know where. Lots of places cannot be found but it can be easily found using google map.

Anyone knows what is the best way for me to input search obtained from google map and transfer the coordinates and input to M9 ?

First for the google map mobile, I don't seem to be able to find the GPS coordinate of the place.
On the PC, the google map there is a "where's here" which tells you your coordinate. Can't find that in google map for mobile.

Next if the coordinates are obtained, is there a convenient 'cut and paste' to input to M9 ?
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I am not sure if this has been mentioned by any posters but I found that it is possible to use google map in a browser, and obtain the GPS coordinates.

When using google map in a mobile phone browser such as Chrome, then the same functionality of obtaining GPS coordianates in PC can be used in mobile. Just visit maps.google.com and one could search, zoom, and so on, and finally press and hold until the "where's here" appear on the screen. The GPS coordinates will then appear in the textbox n in the browser.

Now the Google side of the issues are all solved, the limitation is actually Papago.

There is no way to cut and paste the coordinates into Papago. One has to enter the coordinates using Papago provided keypad. Another example of why I said Papago's GUI is VERY primitive.

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post Feb 6 2013, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(fisherman10 @ Feb 6 2013, 08:52 PM)
well, use another app which allows copy and paste then.
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Yeah Sygic seems to support cut-and-paste. But that's offtopic to this thread.

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