Why would you even read words from their hypocrite manager?

Evra = black burn shit

accept his apologise and proud there are still many of us still defending him till now.  He should repay back our faith and supports.

For all in the world, Suarez making a public apology, Ian Ayre and KD involved means the entire club and the staff is into this. Pressured? Probably.

The way I look at it (I will always stand behind Luis Suarez in this handshake case) is that Evra and Suarez weren't all that "sincere" in patching things up. Surely but simply, I'll say Suarez's oversight (as how we'll read it from his facebook account) has cost the club some PR damage, and clearly there's a damage control mode on.

Thus I salute King Kenny for apologizing even further, for I feel that he needs not to kowtow to anyone.

The medias have already implied that Luis Suarez, K. Dalglish and Liverpool F.C have "kowtow-ed" but as far as I'm concerned, the club has made its stand, and done good enough in showing soladirity in supporting Luis Suarez's case when he is clearly treated unjustly.

If Ferguson wants to apologize, that is his prerogative. The only thing offensive enough is that he stuck his nose in saying Luis Suarez should never play for L.F.C any more, when that manager had a reputation for defending players who are questionable of their moral standings as well. But again, that's his prerogative.

What Liverpool F.C could do at this moment is to take some lessons and probably employ PR people who thinks for the club first.
@add-on: at this point I see MUFC's official statement says "Apology accepted".

Just wanna use an analogy which all of us understand. If u r in a mamak and said to the waiter :" Ah ne, Kira". Is that racist? U be the judge. While the word in today's modern context may not be a nice word, but we can't deny it is something rooted in the local language and culture and has been in use here since at least 3-4 decades by people from all ranks - our grandparents, teachers, friends,etc. so r they all racist too? Fair enough if someone feels strongly against the word he can voice up and educate the public and correct the wrong. But before that it is absurd to call the person a racist unless there is clear intent or malice. My two cents:)

On another note, when are you in the UK until? Planning to visit Anfield again with my mate at the end of the year. Need to wait for next season's schedule first of course to pick a game. Reckon you can help with tickets?

u still dont know arrrr..FA = m.u father!

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/...-report?cc=4716

Why does it have to be like this. God, this world is so cruel.

IIRC in England sometimes the home team lead the handshakes, sometimes the visitors.. the last saturday was nothing unique (visitor lead the handshakes)

The rest was spot on but the bolded part
Go google gerrard and torres celebrating. or torres celebrating liverpool or find and watch older games where he scored. There's no need to degrade a player for the sake of another, especially ones who've contributed massively to our club. Once a red, always a red

So it is ok to have a blatant cheat on the team just because he shows passion?
As mentioned by sols, I've had a fair few run ins with the rest regarding Suarez prior to us signing him.

And just in case anyone accuses me of favouritism, I've also complained about gerrard and his 'fall down like a sack of potatoes' impression one moment and rant about foreigners diving the next.

Appreciated him for the time that he was here.

Never respected him for the way he left for his 180k per week job at the plastics.

He should never be mentioned anymore.....there are legends and there are moneychasers.

Hoping that the last game's issue will clear out after all the mess that followed through the past few days.

Anyway, there are some major issues to address in the current LFC team. We have had Stevie G out for several months and fans were claiming that when he's back in the team we will be scoring for fun. Now he is back in the team, and will Suarez, Carroll, Bellamy, Kuyt (which is not a bad strike force compared to many teams) we are still not getting the goals. In fact, our conversion rate has gone lower and lower, and currently we are the 6th lowest scoring team in the league.

Despite SG coming back into the team, his performance has not been top notch this season. We have failed to see him doing his bursting runs, robust tackles, far less than seeing his passes being intercepted. Apart from a few good crosses and penalties, SG does look like he's not fit enough to start at the moment and if it wasn't because of Lucas' absence, coupled with the poor form of Adam, Downing & Spearing, I highly doubt he can make it back into the first 11.

Perfect comparison is with our defence, Carra came back from an injury layoff but couldn't force his way back into the lineup as the rest of the defenders are performing well. Defending isn't a problem with the current team, every player seem to be repeatingly saying that the goals will eventually come pouring, but apart from the Oldham game we are still shy in front of goal, and with about 15 games left (and a couple more if we progress in FA Cup) we are running out of time for goals to come in.

Just a few seasons back we scored 100+ goals in a league season, statisticians keep saying that we are creating chances but not converting but stats can be deceiving. Some chances created are almost impossible to score, and some shots are simply rifled from nowhere and head nowhere near the goalmouth. Are the tactics not working, and is the creativity lacking? Unlike Arsenal who are capable of walking the ball into the net (although they usually fail to do so), we are not capable of creating real chances to score in games, even though when we're chasing the result.

There are more worrying concerns that befall the team at the moment, because the table never lies.

We are too reliant on certain individuals. You can tell when some players are on the pitch, we will play with more urgency and higher tempo. When these key players are gone or out injured, new players filling the role failed to step up and produce the performance needed from them, dragging down the team as a whole.

We have brilliant individuals, but our teamplay still have a lot to work on.

so next FA cup match against Brighton, should be Monday midnight isnt?

NEZAHUALCOYOTL, Mexico — Well, so much for soccer as an instrument of world peace.

International relations, at least those between Scotland and Uruguay, took it on the chin here Friday afternoon.

What happened on the Neza '86 Stadium field during the teams' 0-0 World Cup tie was bad enough. What happened during the postgame press conference was nothing less than astonishing.

Omar Borras, Uruguay's coach, wasted no time in attacking referee Joel Quiniou of France, calling him a "murderer" for having ejected Jose Batista when the game was only 56 seconds old and forcing Uruguay to play nearly the entire match with just 10 men.

Borras then delivered an impassioned defense of the negative tactics and thuggish play his team used to earn the tie that advanced Uruguay to the next round and eliminated the Scots.

"You have to understand what it means for a team to play one man short," Borras said. "We got a slap in the face in the very first seconds, and this affected our mental condition. Yet, we did try to win in spite of everything, and I think we could have won."

Borras also blasted anti-Uruguayan "propaganda" that he claimed has been aimed at his team throughout its World Cup stay in Mexico but declined to specify the form it has taken or its source.

Those remarks, plus the free-for-all that developed in the interview room as dozens of Uruguayan reporters fought to gain admittance to a room far too small to accommodate them all, were too much for Scottish Coach Alex Ferguson.

When he got his chance at the microphone, he fired more shots than the Scottish team had been able to produce all afternoon.

"I'm sitting here and I'm saying to myself, 'What the hell is going on?' " he said. "Look at this here. It's a shambles, a complete shambles.

"I mean, it's not just a part of football, it's the whole bloody attitude of the nation. You can see that attitude there. The whole thing. They (Uruguayans) have no respect for other people's dignity.

"I think what happened today, after the traumas that have happened to world football in the last year, the debacle out there today--I tell you, I'm glad to go home, believe me, because it's no part of football as we have been accepting it for years and years.

"For Borras to try to defend his team today, he doesn't have the talent that great men have, the ability to look at themselves. He's sitting there lying and cheating. He mutters a lot of rubbish about his country here.

"It's a disgrace what they did. Their behavior turns the game into a complete farce. As far as Scotland's concerned, it's all right to say you're playing 10 men; as far as Uruguay is concerned, they're used to that.

"It's a difficult situation playing against 10 men. Our players were completely upset, and I have great sympathy for them. It's a tragic day for them. I would not criticize one of them.

"But there you are, we're out of the World Cup. I can't even say good luck to Uruguay because I don't think they deserve it."

And that torrent of emotion was just in answer to the first question.

Later, Ferguson snapped back at a Scottish reporter who had asked if he did not think that, technically, Uruguay's players--specifically Enzo Francescoli and Venancio Ramos--are not "light years" ahead of the Scots.

"If they're so great, why did they not beat West Germany and Denmark?" Ferguson shot back.

The truth is, Uruguay, which tied with West Germany, 1-1, and lost to Denmark, 6-1, is not so great. It has two highly talented players in Francescoli and Ramos, but the rest of its team is too prone to kick or shove or slap first and worry about the consequences afterward.

That's what Batista did in the game's opening minute, savagely bringing down Scotland's finest player, flame-haired Gordon Strachan, with a tackle from behind.

Referee Quiniou's decision to expel Batista might have been a trifle harsh, but his intent was clear: To immediately establish his authority. He succeeded to a degree, but Uruguay was not entirely prevented from fouling, nor from employing time-wasting tactics in the final minutes.

Strachan was the target of the Uruguayan defenders' less-than-gentle behavior more often than not, having proven himself Scotland's most dangerous offensive threat in his team's earlier losses to Denmark and West Germany.

Although Francescoli was treated with reasonable respect by the Scottish defenders, Strachan was the target of constant fouls by the Uruguayans.

"Gordon Strachan, in terms of technical ability, is as good as any of the Uruguayan players," Ferguson said. "But was he allowed to demonstrate that technique and talent? Was Francescoli? Was (Francescoli) savagely treated in any part of the game?"

Ferguson also pointed out that Uruguay had the advantage, needing only a tie and therefore being able to drop back on defense and rely on the counterattack.

"It's a much easier thing to do, to defend than to attack," he said. " . . . There's all the room in the world to play, there's always spaces to run to. We were up against a barrier at the edge of the penalty box all the time."

Unable to penetrate that barrier--largely because of a total inability to play the short-passing game and atrocious finishing--the Scots today must fly home, their World Cup bid ended.

Uruguay will play its next game Monday afternoon at Puebla against its greatest rival, Argentina, the nation on the other side of the River Plate. International relations may again take a beating, but Ferguson no longer cares.

"It's not my problem any longer," he said. "It's FIFA's problem. It will be Argentina's problem Monday."

And that, as well as anything, sets the stage for the drama to come.