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post Jan 17 2012, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(CyntrixTech @ Jan 17 2012, 11:28 AM)
It's not a step backwards. The 7970 is literally the best GPU AMD every created. There's only "one" gpu in the 7970 as opposed to the 6990 which is 2 x 6970 (crippled), and the 590 (2 x 580). An OCed 7970 is very close to a 6990. The benefit of 7970 is that you can run 4 pieces of them which is equivalent to almost 8 pieces of 6970's performance. On the 6 series card, the best you can to is 2 pieces of 6990 and that is only equivalent to 4 pieces of 6970.
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I know what u meant, but as it turns out, I don't do benches nor do I play games just because of the need for higher frame rates to appear...All the games that I 'play' runs smoothly and ditch my current card and fork out money on 1 or maybe 2 pieces of the 7970 card which might only better 10-30 fps doesn't really floats my boat...

Sure if I currently am on a mid range 2 generation back GPU I might think of getting 7000-series GPU but it turns out, I'm getting more than enough frames on my games, I'll probably skip the 7970 and either fork out for the 7990 or some other card after the 7-series...

7970 is probably the best single GPU out there nonetheless...
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post Jan 17 2012, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jan 17 2012, 07:16 AM)
Bought 2pcs of this beasty card from CyntrixTech recently.
will grab another one for tri-fire + wb wub.gif  wub.gif


Added on January 17, 2012, 9:00 amKoolance 7970 block is now in stock: Link

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Great, hope we can see your OC results for both cards. dont forget to update us on 7970s CF & TF performance as I am looking forward to add 1 or 2 more of this beast and then watercooled them...haha I'm so excited!

btw bro Kevin, do we have any reviews on those 7970s WB in the net? so far couldn't find them.
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QUOTE(shepard @ Jan 17 2012, 07:08 PM)
Great, hope we can see your OC results for both cards. dont forget to update us on 7970s CF & TF performance as I am looking forward to add 1 or 2 more of this beast and then watercooled them...haha I'm so excited!

btw bro Kevin, do we have any reviews on those 7970s WB in the net? so far couldn't find them.
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afaik no review yet & i think i'd grab the EK plexi-Ni blocks coz i like see-through.
i will switch to 7970 right after CNY. now i'm very2 busy with CNY preparation etc lol.
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post Jan 18 2012, 12:55 AM

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Alright,

here's some update on the 7970's OC potential and performance gain OVER STOCK that we could get in some of the latest/old games once we OC'ed this card.
Resolution:1920x1080
AA: 4x MSAA
Anisotropic: 16x
Graphics Details: All Maxed out except for unigine 2.5 with Normal tessellation.

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FPS gain plotted in pareto:
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Another chart for Vantage and 3DMark11 results:
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Performance gain(%) pareto:
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So I would say that we can easily achieve 20% more performance out of this card ONLY IF we are lucky enough to get a good 7970 chip. I'd say this because I read a lot of complaints from 7970's users in the net on how their card cannot OC'ed beyond 1100/1150 and heck, some cannot even past 1070MHz neither at stock nor higher voltage. It's like a lucky draw I guess, and maybe this is the reason why AMD set their 7970's stock core clock as low as 925MHz even though most chips can go beyond 1250MHz stable on air.

By watercooled this beast, i think we can even get a 30+% performance gain out of this beast, amazing!! flex.gif thumbup.gif

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post Jan 18 2012, 10:42 AM

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Give some good cooling to it sure can oc more n stable!
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post Jan 18 2012, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(shepard @ Jan 18 2012, 12:55 AM)
Alright,

here's some update on the 7970's OC potential and performance gain OVER STOCK that we could get in some of the latest/old games once we OC'ed this card.
Resolution:1920x1080
AA: 4x MSAA
Anisotropic: 16x
Graphics Details: All Maxed out except for unigine 2.5 with Normal tessellation.
Nice reviews again smile.gif Btw, what are the temps like at 1275/1675 during gaming?
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 18 2012, 08:42 PM)
Nice reviews again smile.gif Btw, what are the temps like at 1275/1675 during gaming?
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Thanks bro Alvin, I love to spend time play around with GC biggrin.gif . max temps when I play crysis 2 and metro 2033 at 1275/1675 is 71degC but I am in A/C'ed room(22degC). I set the fan profile to inrease the speed in linear from 40deg=25% to 70Deg=60% but 7970 stock fan was less audible compared to my previous 6970. furthermore I always play games with loud speaker or headphone so the fan's sound is not a concern here smile.gif.

Anyway bro Alvin, got any plan going Red again? or waiting for GTX680/780? brows.gif


QUOTE(law1777 @ Jan 18 2012, 10:42 AM)
Give some good cooling to it sure can oc more n stable!
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Definitely! no doubt about that nod.gif

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post Jan 19 2012, 10:08 AM

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MSI Afterburner 2.2.0 Beta 11 Released (01/18/2012)

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Changes list includes:
    * Added memory voltage control for reference design AMD RADEON 7970 graphics cards with CHL8228 voltage regulators
    * Now MSI Afterburner displays target VID instead of real voltage sensor reading on "GPU voltage" graph on graphics cards equipped with CHL8228 voltage regulators. These changes are implemented to avoid confusing the beginners and prevent the hysteria about voltage drop on AMD RADEON 7970 series graphic cards spreading across different discussion forums. Experienced users, understanding the difference between target and real voltages, may still unlock the previous real voltage monitoring mode via editing the hardware profiles
    * Core and memory clock limits have been extended to 180% on AMD RADEON 7970 graphics cards in unofficial overclocking mode
    * Now MSI Afterburner's startup daemon routine precaches VRM I2C registers state at the first Windows startup. Precached VRM state is being used to detect default voltage instead of hardcoding default voltages into the database. Please take a note that you may forcibly perform precaching later with command line switch or disable the precaching at all via configuration file if necessary and force MSI Afterburner to use the previous hardcoded database based default voltage detection
    * MSI On-Screen Display server has been upgraded to version 4.3.1. New version gives you the following improvements:
      o Added workaround for AMD OpenGL driver context switching issues causing abnormally low framerate in ID Software Rage when OSD is enabled
      o Added workaround for AMD OpenGL driver PBO issues causing the driver to crash or perform abnormally slow during videocapture


Source & Download

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post Jan 20 2012, 09:22 PM

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Having some funny issues when booting into windows. No did not forget those CF cables laugh.gif

Nvm, needed double reboot to go in. Weird.

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The fan really anoying at 65%++ >.<

I want water block!!!
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post Jan 21 2012, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(CyntrixTech @ Jan 20 2012, 09:22 PM)
Having some funny issues when booting into windows. No did not forget those CF cables laugh.gif

Nvm, needed double reboot to go in. Weird.
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Bro, hope you can share your 7970s Trifire experiences with us soon. If it scales well, I might need to consider for Trifire as well. Last time when using Trifire 5850s it scales very2 nice with performance gain about 2.6x-2.9x over a single 5850. If this card does scale around 2.5x above in games/benches then without hesitation it is a MUST BUILD setup biggrin.gif
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post Jan 21 2012, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(kambing69 @ Jan 21 2012, 09:07 PM)
The fan really anoying at 65%++ >.<

I want water block!!!
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Welcome my friend 7970's owner rclxms.gif . if you going to water cool this card first, kindly share your OC experience later ya? I might need to wait until march to build a fully WC setup due to budget constraint now haha...

btw, there's no need to set the fan up to 65% speed lol...are you doing benching with those fan setting? but yeah, at 60% above the fan start to annoys me.

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post Jan 21 2012, 09:37 PM

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Sure... but i dont know why my 3Dmark score is 0 >.< tongue.gif

Its been about 5 years since im benching my rig ahahahah

help here~

here the pic...


and why my score really low ? icon_question.gif or is it because i max all the setting.....



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post Jan 21 2012, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(shepard @ Jan 21 2012, 09:08 PM)
Bro, hope you can share your 7970s Trifire experiences with us soon. If it scales well, I might need to consider for Trifire as well. Last time when using Trifire 5850s it scales very2 nice with performance gain about 2.6x-2.9x over a single 5850. If this card does scale around 2.5x above in games/benches then without hesitation it is a MUST BUILD setup biggrin.gif
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Yeah will do some benching. Maybe 10% OC on each card to see how well they fair. If someone wanna donate a 3930k + RIVE to me, I can do 4 cards. brows.gif

Oh btw, BF3 ultra everything on the cards with 60fps (vsync on). I'd like to disable a pcie slot to see if 2 cards can do the same. Do you know if I need to remove the CFX cable after disabling the pcie slot?

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post Jan 21 2012, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(CyntrixTech @ Jan 21 2012, 10:03 PM)
Yeah will do some benching. Maybe 10% OC on each card to see how well they fair. If someone wanna donate a 3930k + RIVE to me, I can do 4 cards. brows.gif

Oh btw, BF3 ultra everything on the cards with 60fps (vsync on). I'd like to disable a pcie slot to see if 2 cards can do the same. Do you know if I need to remove the CFX cable after disabling the pcie slot?
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I am more interested with VSync off tho since it does force the game to run in a constant framerate and can be misleading
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post Jan 22 2012, 02:38 AM

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QUOTE(kambing69 @ Jan 21 2012, 09:37 PM)
Sure... but i dont know why my 3Dmark score is 0 >.< tongue.gif

Its been about 5 years since im benching my rig ahahahah

help here~

here the pic...
and why my score really low ?  icon_question.gif  or is it because i max all the setting.....
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Yes, you cannot manually set the settings or you'll get 0 3DMark score. Just go to option tab and select one preset setting either "Entry, Performance, High, or Extreme" but normally people will use "performance" preset to compare the scores. Try do this first and see how much you can get. Thanks for sharing smile.gif.

QUOTE(CyntrixTech @ Jan 21 2012, 10:03 PM)
Yeah will do some benching. Maybe 10% OC on each card to see how well they fair. If someone wanna donate a 3930k + RIVE to me, I can do 4 cards. brows.gif

Oh btw, BF3 ultra everything on the cards with 60fps (vsync on). I'd like to disable a pcie slot to see if 2 cards can do the same. Do you know if I need to remove the CFX cable after disabling the pcie slot?
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Whoa!!..cant wait to see how those Trifire beasts perform in games/benches. It's even good to know how far it can go when you start to OC all of them. I dont prefer quad CFx tbh because to me it's too hassle and from what I read on QuadCfx of HD58xx last time it scales very bad but not sure how it perform on newer generation of AMD cards though. But yeah, I do need those killer combination of RIVE + 3930k/3960x LOL drool.gif . You think better grab these or wait for ivy bridge later in Apr, any idea?

I wonder why you enable vsync when you're using 3 powerful cards for gaming/benching? rclxub.gif . We wanted to see how powerful your Trifire setup performed so i guess it's good if you just turn off vsync on any games/benches or we might end up with constant 60fps all the time from your setup biggrin.gif sweat.gif .. I'm saying this because my single 7970 can almost do a constant 60fps on ultra settings in BF3 as well maybe in heavy firefight it will drop to <60fps like when there's and explosions etc. I'm gaming at 1920x1080 btw, are you gaming with eyefinity setup? res?

I am not so sure about removing CFx bridge but from my experience with my Trifire 5850s. You just need to disable one of the card if you plan to run only 1 or 2 cards and no need to remove the CFx bridge. That's what I did last time when benching single and dual cards and it works that way. give it a try first and see, i dont really think you need to remove the bridge though.

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vsync is important to prevent screen tearing. My screen is the u3011. I disabled vsync earlier and in huge open areas with lots of effects it was lowest at 58 fps but 95% of the time it is 60-130 fps. Indoors i get about 160+ fps. But i think there is some cpu bottleneck with my 2500k running at stock speed.

Nah don't bother with 3930k, it doesnt perform any better than 2x00k for what matters to most people. It is not easy to get every 3930k core to 5ghz so it performs worse in gaming than a highly clocked 2500k priced 3 times less. Just like e8400 vs q6600 back then. I am waiting for IB or x79 quadcore K series.
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Yeah I know vsync purpose, what i meant is that it is not needed if you want to benchmark your setup to see how powerful it is. Vsync is important if you're gaming though. So are you going to benchmark your trifire say for crysis2, metro2033, far cry 2, warhead, 3dmark11, 3dmark vantage etc?

cant wait to see those scores..thanks for your update
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PC Mark:
http://3dmark.com/pcm7/257420

Stock speed on everything


Added on January 22, 2012, 4:08 pmdid some further test. stock speed on 2500k is bottle necking BF3. There are many areas where I git 100% CPU usage.

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QUOTE(CyntrixTech @ Jan 22 2012, 01:55 PM)
PC Mark:
http://3dmark.com/pcm7/257420

Stock speed on everything


Added on January 22, 2012, 4:08 pmdid some further test. stock speed on 2500k is bottle necking BF3. There are many areas where I git 100% CPU usage.
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WTF with this scores!! tongue.gif


QUOTE(shepard @ Jan 22 2012, 02:38 AM)
Yes, you cannot manually set the settings or you'll get 0 3DMark score. Just go to option tab and select one preset setting either "Entry, Performance, High, or Extreme" but normally people will use "performance" preset to compare the scores. Try do this first and see how much you can get. Thanks for sharing smile.gif.
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Owh ... thanks for the info

Here's the latest OC at 1000mhz


PS: OC'ed @ GPU:1000mhz + CPU:5ghz (i5 2500k)

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