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TSzeone
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 Jan 11 2012, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jan 11 2012, 07:20 PM) workshop.... the bolts are prollly too tight to remove by hand and might need to use the air gun. Yup, yu're 100% correct!! Tks, Bro!  Me tried with socket wrench with 1ft handle but failed 2even budge the bolt!! Haha!  Giving up on DIY cos no extension pipe to increase leverage...  Bro Chin of Stiff Rings oledi informed re their new Dealer @outskirts near my place. He's contacted Dealer & me will call b4 going...most probably 2moro! Will update after all done....Wish me luck?  |
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huakenny
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Jan 11 2012, 10:22 PM
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must ask mech la....DIY very hard
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TSzeone
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Jan 11 2012, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE(huakenny @ Jan 11 2012, 10:22 PM) must ask mech la....DIY very hard Tks 4good advice, Bro! Gonna get it done @wkshop/Dealer rec by Bro Chin of Stiff Rings. Most probably 2moro.  |
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vr2turbo
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Jan 12 2012, 07:48 AM
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jan 11 2012, 05:34 PM) Hi Bros! Fyi I juz got set of "Stiff Rings" (2 pairs for 2 front subframe bolts) for my Saga FL!! Seems other 2 subframe bolts + holes very well designed/fitted & not need these Stiff Rings...  Bought item via Online order/Courier. No dealers in/near my area. Now prob is whether to DIY or find a reliable understanding mech to install...  What do yu guys think I shld do? If the bolts are well fitted, then they would not have manufactured the stiff rings, right? |
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shinjite
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Jan 12 2012, 08:08 AM
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If there is a gap, no matter how tight the bolts are, it will still move eventually
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amir_tengkorak
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Jan 12 2012, 08:37 AM
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Find a good mech and experienced installing these.
If not,the mech also DIY lah..hahahah
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TSzeone
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Jan 12 2012, 08:43 AM
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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Jan 12 2012, 07:48 AM) If the bolts are well fitted, then they would not have manufactured the stiff rings, right? Clarification from Stiff Ring...Quote fr email : " FYI, for New Saga, when the car jack up you will see there is another subframe bolt, but this 2 not required the Stiff Ring because this 2 subframe hole & bolt is quite well designed and there is near no gap in between subframe and bolt. Thus, this not required any Stiff Ring to correct the bolt alignment." So, as is, only 2 front subframe bolts need Stiff Rings. Half Plus points for Proton engineering?
Added on January 12, 2012, 8:48 amQUOTE(amir_tengkorak @ Jan 12 2012, 08:37 AM) Find a good mech and experienced installing these. If not,the mech also DIY lah..hahahah Was gonna try DIY install after step by step instructions fr Bro Chin of Stiff Ring. However after an attempt, found me kenot DIY myself cos insufficient tools! Now gonna go2 new Dealer rec by Bro Chin 4install. At least they hv the tools... Haha! And, of course, me no   This post has been edited by zeone: Jan 12 2012, 08:50 AM |
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huakenny
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Jan 12 2012, 10:05 AM
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its not hard to DIY provided u got sufficient equipment/tools. and make sure u not fall asleep under the car.haha
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TSzeone
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Jan 12 2012, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(huakenny @ Jan 12 2012, 10:05 AM) its not hard to DIY provided u got sufficient equipment/tools. and make sure u not fall asleep under the car.haha Bro Chin's step by step instructions on DIYing install sounded very straightforward. However, I had probs cos I dun hv metal pipe extension to give leverage to my box wrench...to loosen & tighten the subframe bolts!! Nvr mind lo...can alwaz get help, rite? Best this way cos no Haha! This post has been edited by zeone: Jan 12 2012, 10:19 AM |
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vr2turbo
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Jan 12 2012, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jan 12 2012, 08:43 AM) Clarification from Stiff Ring...Quote fr email : " FYI, for New Saga, when the car jack up you will see there is another subframe bolt, but this 2 not required the Stiff Ring because this 2 subframe hole & bolt is quite well designed and there is near no gap in between subframe and bolt. Thus, this not required any Stiff Ring to correct the bolt alignment." So, as is, only 2 front subframe bolts need Stiff Rings. Half Plus points for Proton engineering? Means for the bolt specified there are no stiff rings for it, then understand that it is well fitted already..... |
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TSzeone
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Jan 12 2012, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Jan 12 2012, 10:49 AM) Means for the bolt specified there are no stiff rings for it, then understand that it is well fitted already..... Yup, Bro...appears that way... Btw 1 issue still nagging me @back of mind... One mech I asked 4help advised me NOT to touch those subframe bolts!!  His reason? Those bolts (if once loosened) may not fit back tightly & well so kenot stay tight for long! Gave example of BMW...their bolts hv sp glue and each removal needs CHANGE to NEW bolts!!! Told me further that threads of those subframe bolts for local cars kenot tahan unnecessary removal ie wears easily! Any truth in wat he said? Sifus arnd, pls.... TQ! This post has been edited by zeone: Jan 12 2012, 12:31 PM |
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huakenny
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Jan 12 2012, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jan 12 2012, 12:29 PM) Yup, Bro...appears that way... Btw 1 issue still nagging me @back of mind... One mech I asked 4help advised me NOT to touch those subframe bolts!! His reason? Those bolts (if once loosened) may not fit back tightly & well so kenot stay tight for long! Gave example of BMW...their bolts hv sp glue and each removal needs CHANGE to NEW bolts!!! Told me further that threads of those subframe bolts for local cars kenot tahan unnecessary removal ie wears easily! Any truth in wat he said? Sifus arnd, pls.... TQ! i removed more than thousand cars....no problems if u r worry...just go back to ur mech after a week to check d bolt if loosen |
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TSzeone
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Jan 12 2012, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(huakenny @ Jan 12 2012, 12:51 PM) i removed more than thousand cars....no problems if u r worry...just go back to ur mech after a week to check d bolt if loosen Ok, Bro...tks a meg 4re-assurance! Helps lessen my worry alot!
Added on January 12, 2012, 4:20 pmHi! Me installed my Stiff Rings liao!! Finally!!  Install'n took less than 15 mins!! Did so @reg SC! UNofficially la! Haha!  First impressions? On drive home? VERY significant lack of vibrations felt @ steering wheel even on very uneven & pot-holed roads!! Generally overall lack of vibrations felt in car...phew! Happy me took the "plunge"... Will give more feedback when make another outstation trip soon...CNY? This post has been edited by zeone: Jan 12 2012, 04:20 PM |
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glitch
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Jan 12 2012, 11:37 PM
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yeah....smart tunnel is the best road to test this collar....
p/s: deym smart tunnel...not 'friendly' for those who use low profile tire + lowered.
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TSzeone
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Jan 13 2012, 08:44 AM
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QUOTE(glitch @ Jan 12 2012, 11:37 PM) yeah....smart tunnel is the best road to test this collar.... p/s: deym smart tunnel...not 'friendly' for those who use low profile tire + lowered. Yup, simple mod but shows its worth under worst conditions! Comes in really "handy" when one needs it most! Moral here : NEVER fear the unknown...AND expect the UNexpected!! |
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torreto
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Jan 13 2012, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(glitch @ Jan 12 2012, 11:37 PM) yeah....smart tunnel is the best road to test this collar.... p/s: deym smart tunnel...not 'friendly' for those who use low profile tire + lowered. Agree 100% smart tunnel is the best place to test out the stiff ring. At first I don't feel any different at all after installed, until I use the smart tunnel I can feel that it reduce a lot of vibration. bear in mind my car is lowered half finger gap front and 1 finger gap rear with the hardest setting on Tein Super Street Coilovers. So 2 thumbs up for stiff ring  This post has been edited by torreto: Jan 13 2012, 07:24 PM |
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TSzeone
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Jan 13 2012, 08:07 PM
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Juz 2share... Pic of set of Stiff Rings for my PS 1.3FL Exec Auto :  Nice & shiny stuff...haha! My ride needed only Stiff Rings for front subframe bolts. So only 2 pairs...  Above pic shows subframe bolt affixed with lower Stiff Ring. Upper Stiff Ring is in upper hole of subframe...not visible. |
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muslayer
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Jan 13 2012, 08:43 PM
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for this ring...at RM 200+ ....i will not install...too expensive
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TSzeone
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Jan 13 2012, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE(muslayer @ Jan 13 2012, 08:43 PM) for this ring...at RM 200+ ....i will not install...too expensive RM200+ only for those which need at least 4 pairs ( 8 pcs )...if me not wrong... Moreover, it's a 1 time payment & install. Also custom made for yr car make & model. This post has been edited by zeone: Jan 13 2012, 09:50 PM |
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mADmAN
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Jan 14 2012, 04:33 AM
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QUOTE(muslayer @ Jan 13 2012, 08:43 PM) for this ring...at RM 200+ ....i will not install...too expensive walauweh.....u think stiff ring is expensive at 2xx?? how about the ORIGINAL ones? the original product....the original brand......Rigid Collar from Spoon... RM7xx. so stiff ring is considered very cheap already. |
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