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post Jan 30 2012, 12:10 PM

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myvi 6 pieces hw much arr??any1 test b4
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post Jan 31 2012, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(bodybuilder @ Jan 30 2012, 12:10 PM)
myvi 6 pieces hw much arr??any1 test b4
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Me not use MyVi...sorry, Bro...
However, feel shld b arnd RM200+/-....
Try emailing Stiff Rings... info@stiffring.com wink.gif
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post Jan 31 2012, 09:43 AM

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I'll get them in the near future, but I'll have to make sure those rings are installed by someone authorized. Imagine the mechanic unsure on what to do when he tries to figure out what it is sweat.gif
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post Jan 31 2012, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Jan 31 2012, 09:43 AM)
I'll get them in the near future, but I'll have to make sure those rings are installed by someone authorized. Imagine the mechanic unsure on what to do when he tries to figure out what it is sweat.gif
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Try browse their website or send an email to them (ref earlier post) for info re nearest dealer/wkshop. smile.gif

In my case, a first-timer mech cld install w/o prob cos clear instructions c/w pic & diagrams come enclosed with items. No worries. smile.gif

UPDATE @6:24pm : Juz chk-ed their FBk pages....Price for MyVi is RM220 per set.

This post has been edited by zeone: Jan 31 2012, 06:25 PM
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post Jan 31 2012, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Jan 31 2012, 01:52 PM)
Try browse their website or send an email to them (ref earlier post) for info re nearest dealer/wkshop. smile.gif

In my case, a first-timer mech cld install w/o prob cos clear instructions c/w pic & diagrams come enclosed with items. No worries. smile.gif

UPDATE @6:24pm : Juz chk-ed their FBk pages....Price for MyVi is RM220 per set.
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Including installation? If it's so then it just jumped my list of priorities biggrin.gif BTW zeone what car are you driving?

edit: oh seems you have a Saga FL. ditch the question then

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post Jan 31 2012, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Jan 31 2012, 10:57 PM)
Including installation? If it's so then it just jumped my list of priorities biggrin.gif BTW zeone what car are you driving?

edit: oh seems you have a Saga FL. ditch the question then
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Nope. Install NOT incl.
However, charges vary. My friendly mech only asked for RM10 but me felt RM20 more reasonable cos he did install sp'ly for me!
Expected charges arnd RM20-30. wink.gif
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jan 31 2012, 11:37 PM)
Nope. Install NOT incl.
However, charges vary. My friendly mech only asked for RM10 but me felt RM20 more reasonable cos he did install sp'ly for me!
Expected charges arnd RM20-30. wink.gif
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Well, mind introducing to your friendly mech and his location? biggrin.gif
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post Feb 1 2012, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Feb 1 2012, 12:04 AM)
Well, mind introducing to your friendly mech and his location? biggrin.gif
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So sorry, Bro...
But yu kno la, it's a "personal" thing & the mech is @Proton SC sumore (UNofficially done)!! blush.gif

Fr wat I was told, install shld b max RM30 by most wkshops. Kinda fast simple job nia. wink.gif


Added on February 1, 2012, 4:11 pmps. If in2 DIY, a possible project! I cld not do so cos not hv enuf leverage 2loosen subframe bolt with std socket wrench... sad.gif

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post Feb 4 2012, 01:23 PM

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bad news..today went to get the stiff rings to be installed on my myvi..however, got problem in centering the subframe chassis hole to the main chassis hole while installing the stiff ring.. the whole piece of subframe chassis needs to be moved to correct the centering for all 4 holes..could only install the stiff rings for 2 holes, then the another 2 holes hard to center it for stiff ring installation..in the end, abandoned the stiff ring upgrade, all removed..

anyone experienced such situation in myvi? can the whole piece of subframe chassis be moved in order to correct the centering of hole for all positiion??

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QUOTE(taaron @ Feb 4 2012, 01:23 PM)
bad news..today went to get the stiff rings to be installed on my myvi..however, got problem in centering the subframe chassis hole to the main chassis hole while installing the stiff ring.. the whole piece of subframe chassis needs to be moved to correct the centering for all 4 holes..could only install the stiff rings for 2 holes, then the another 2 holes hard to center it for stiff ring installation..in the end, abandoned the stiff ring upgrade, all removed..

anyone experienced such situation in myvi? can the whole piece of subframe chassis be moved in order to correct the centering of hole for all positiion??
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So to say your subframe has been misaligned from the factory
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post Feb 4 2012, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Feb 4 2012, 02:13 PM)
So to say your subframe has been misaligned from the factory
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any advice what should be done? do you think it is possible to realign the whole piece of subframe? I really want to try out the stiff rings.. blink.gif
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post Feb 4 2012, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(taaron @ Feb 4 2012, 05:45 PM)
any advice what should be done? do you think it is possible to realign the whole piece of subframe? I really want to try out the stiff rings.. blink.gif
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Sorry 2hear re yr subframe so badly misaligned... sad.gif

Somehow feel, if all points were properly fitted b4 try install Stiff Rings, mayb NOT tighten ALL points until ALL bolts & Stiff Rings are in place FIRST.

Then only...tighten each bolt bit by bit in diagonal sequence while checking proper seating of Stiff Rings.
Repeat till ALL bolts done.

Wish yu all the very best!!
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post Feb 4 2012, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Feb 4 2012, 09:29 PM)
Sorry 2hear re yr subframe so badly misaligned... sad.gif

Somehow feel, if all points were properly fitted b4 try install Stiff Rings, mayb NOT tighten ALL points until ALL bolts & Stiff Rings are in place FIRST.

Then only...tighten each bolt bit by bit in diagonal sequence while checking proper seating of Stiff Rings.
Repeat till ALL bolts done.

Wish yu all the very best!!
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I think they have tried loosen all bolts with stiff rings on it, but the subframe is too stubborn cant be moved to do the centering..

when u meant to tighten each bolt bit by bit in diagonal sequence, do u mean tighten every bolt in Left,Right,Left,Right (X pattern, similar to tightening rims lug nuts method) sequence??
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post Feb 5 2012, 09:30 AM

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so, the advantage of stiff rings is better handling?
may i ask how do u guys measure it? e.g. during turning?
i don't see how it'lll improve turning, thought it's already pre-set.
sorry i'm noob tongue.gif
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QUOTE(taaron @ Feb 4 2012, 10:17 PM)
I think they have tried loosen all bolts with stiff rings on it, but the subframe is too stubborn cant be moved to do the centering..

when u meant to tighten each bolt bit by bit in diagonal sequence, do u mean tighten every bolt in Left,Right,Left,Right (X pattern, similar to tightening rims lug nuts method) sequence??
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your best bet is to contact stiffrings themselves
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post Feb 5 2012, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(bladekiller @ Feb 5 2012, 09:30 AM)
so, the advantage of stiff rings is better handling?
may i ask how do u guys measure it? e.g. during turning?
i don't see how it'lll improve turning, thought it's already pre-set.
sorry i'm noob tongue.gif
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It reduces/eliminates freeplay between the subframe and and the chassis, therefore it can theoretically result in better steering response and less lateral movement of the suspension arms.
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post Feb 5 2012, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(taaron @ Feb 4 2012, 10:17 PM)
I think they have tried loosen all bolts with stiff rings on it, but the subframe is too stubborn cant be moved to do the centering..

when u meant to tighten each bolt bit by bit in diagonal sequence, do u mean tighten every bolt in Left,Right,Left,Right (X pattern, similar to tightening rims lug nuts method) sequence??
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Yup. smile.gif
Feel the subframe alignment cld not b so far out if it was ok b4 trying 2install Stiff Rings. Logic, rite?

Anyway, Probably best bet is to follow advice given by ThunderGod_Cid as below:
QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Feb 5 2012, 12:25 PM)
your best bet is to contact stiffrings themselves
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Added on February 5, 2012, 2:39 pmAnd to Bro bladekiller...
Yup, Bro dares is correct! notworthy.gif
Steering response is significantly improved. Even more so in an older car, where there's more wear & tear.

This post has been edited by zeone: Feb 5 2012, 02:41 PM
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post Feb 5 2012, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Feb 5 2012, 02:34 PM)
Yup. smile.gif
Feel the subframe alignment cld not b so far out if it was ok b4 trying 2install Stiff Rings. Logic, rite?

Anyway, Probably best bet is to follow advice given by ThunderGod_Cid as below:

Added on February 5, 2012, 2:39 pmAnd to Bro bladekiller...
Yup, Bro dares is correct! notworthy.gif
Steering response is significantly improved. Even more so in an older car, where there's more wear & tear.
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So based on the above, is it safe to say that new cars/cars with good steering response will not need stuff rings?
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post Feb 5 2012, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(bladekiller @ Feb 5 2012, 06:12 PM)
So based on the above, is it safe to say that new cars/cars with good steering response will not need stuff rings?
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Nope. Even brand new cars stand to gain from installing Stiff Rings... rclxms.gif

Fyi my car was only abt 8 mths old when I installed mine. And the difference in feel esp @steering wheel was immediate & of significance.
At installation time, the gap in the subframe bolt holes cld be seen! And that gap was filled up by the Stiff Rings!
Juz imagine the forces at play with that kind of gap...when the car is in motion? tongue.gif

To me, it's a small investment...
Not like a bodykit which is yelling at everyone else on the road!
Stiff Rings are small, not seen BUT felt...
No one knows except the car owner... thumbup.gif icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on February 5, 2012, 8:36 pmps. A good example of how much the subframe bolts & relative holes in the bodyshell could be so MISaligned is that of Bro Taaron's case.

If the subframe holes are well-aligned to fit the holes in the body, then putting in the Stiff Rings wld hv been a breeze! With even spacing in the holes for the bolts? Kinda centralised? Correct?

However, it's so out of alignment that it was practically impossible to juz directly slot in the Stiff Rings to bolt them together!! The SPACE just wasn't there!! sad.gif

This post has been edited by zeone: Feb 5 2012, 08:38 PM
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post Feb 6 2012, 12:18 PM

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Hi all,

Kindly contact Chin 012-670 5167 we will help you to solve this issue. You can come over to us and install at our panel installer in Cheras.

Fyi, some Myvi subframe is really badly misalign but not to worry, we will help you solve it.

Further enquiries, you can contact us via info@stiffring.com

Thank you,
Stiff Ring

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