Visited quite a few retailers selling Sofa mainly made of leather and Fabric material. Generally most established retailers are providing both the range due to demand and price points with leather being the more expensive option.

Both materials have their positive and negative points. Some prefer fabric being more breathable and washable while others prefer leather being easier to clean, maintain and the looks.

For me, after using quite a few sets of leather and fabric sofa, my personal preference is leather material mainly for the maintenance and durability.

Now for leather, there are many types of leather from Aniline, Semi-Aniline, Corrected Grain, Split Leather and bonded leather, sometimes called synthetic leather. These terms can be googled easily as it is standard terminology of leather used in the sofa industry. However, today almost all retailers (including established ones) in Malaysia use the name Bovine leather and this is a very confusing term. Googled this and you can see that it is not a common terminology used for leather. Bovine is a term meant for hoof animals, which include cattle, the bison, African buffalo, the water buffalo, the yak, and the four-horned and spiral-horned antelopes. So in short cow is a bovine but bovine is not a cow.

In case where the term Aniline or Semi-Aniline is used, you can expect some premium on the sofa.

Last but not least, leather comes in different thickness, generally 1.5mm or 1mm.

Anyone feel free to share your experience about your sofa purchase.

Personally prefer fabric sofa. Coz it can be washed. Second, colour coordination. Thirdly, its cooler and breezier compared to leather. Leather is always more comfy in air conditioned room. And always go for genuine leather which is really expensive. the rest bonded or bovine what not is just crap..peeling off in few years time, hot and ugly.

Just my 2 cents.

I prefer fabric sofa as well. Just bought a fabric sofa recently

Just want to share my experience on leather and fabric sofas.

I owned 2 leather sofa sets. One white sofa set of about 10 years old and another blue set of about 8 years old. Both are in 1 + 2 + 3 seaters configuration. The white set is in my upstairs small living while the blue set is on the ground floor main living room. The blue set sofa is heavily utilized as it is on the ground floor.

Today, the blue sofa set is rather seasoned but wear and tear is rather minimal. The white set still looks quite good despite the age. Of course, both the design are outdated today.

I also find that breathability for both the leather sofa sets to be different too. So leather choices makes quite a big difference to the comfort.

About 10 months ago, I bought a fabric sofa (1 + 1 + 2 + 3 seater) and moved the blue leather set to another room as I felt the living room require something newer, modern and that thinking that fabric is more breathable. Being in the heavily utilized zone the fabric wear and tear is very visible. Not only the colour changes but the wearing of fabric is obvious. For this I have just ordered a new fabric cover for change and it cost me RM800. This is rather costly considering it is only 10 months in used. Not to mention whenever I have visitors on a hot day, the thought of sweat being absorbed through the fabric into the cushion. For this I need to sun the cushion which is rather cumbersome. Also, the thought of dust mites and allergy is something to consider as well.

That's why in my earlier posting, I prefer leather due to the durability and low maintenance.

Anyway this is only my feel. Others may feel otherwise.

I prefer leather as well and agree 100% what you said. One more thing I might add, fabric stains easily and also retains smell. Only problem with leather sofa is they are mostly too chunky for small living rooms

Btw i have a leather set for sale if you are interested. It's too big for my living room.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=220&t=2176416

This post has been edited by idoblu: Jan 8 2012, 07:45 AM

leather - easy maintainance
fabric - homely feel

Leather = dead mammals skin.. aiyerrrr

Fabric feels more comfortable and i can sleep on the sofa.

Leather if felt asleep, wake up sweat.

thanks for the info! i was searching what grade is bovine leather
Is Aniline the best leather? is semi-Aniline better since it's less stain absorbent compared to Aniline?
what thickness should i choose? @ milano haus there is cat 1,2,3 , cat 1 being the thinnest. the salesgirl also said that cat 3 is thickest n softest
Can you recommend me shops to check out? im planning to get either a 3+3+2 or 3+2+1 set @ RM 10-15k

so far ive only checked out Milano Haus which quoted 3+3+2 for RM12+k [Aniline , Cat 1]
the salesgirl said the leather is from italy but the sofa is manufactured in shanghai
6 yr warranty but 3 month waiting

thanks in advance!

at least leather skin is better than some 9-year-old Filipino kids who worked their fingers bloody for 12 cents an hour

eh u hang out here?

what i would like to say is the items sold in milano haus are highly marked up...too expensive...i already visited them few times to compare the price...same item but they sold almost 20-30% more than other shop..i dont dare to buy anything there even promotion because i afraid to become "stupid water fish"..

leather sofa will crack. true story.

what sofa was that then where would you recommend?

I don't have any shop to recommend...I just share my experience when I visited milano haus...a lot of items sold there that I survey are expensive than other shops even after discount..

I saw your budget 10K-15K...I guess you are looking for high-level sofa...As I know Rozel sell very expensive sofa too...I went in, came out within 5 minutes...

when a sofa can discount more than 50%, what does it mean? depend on how you think...

This post has been edited by tiensong: Jan 12 2012, 12:30 PM

actually the discount 50% is a very common practice for sofa shops lol especially lorenzo always writing sale. I will check rozel out, i checked milano because lots of people recommend, rozel has one complaint on here.

you can easily compare the price because most of them selling same/similar coffee table or dining table.....you can notice who marked up the price more..

about sofa i am not sure lar...milano said from italy...said italy designer....say nia who know is it true or not.....so, i leave it to those sofa expert here to comment...

good luck

Just be aware when you check out Lorenzo sofas. If you check some of the posts in this forum, there have been some complaints. Rozel included. I understand that Lorenzo sofas are now all manufactured in China, hence the quality is no longer the same as previous years.
Might be a good idea to check where the sofa is manufactured and what the warranty will cover.

yeah i've seen a lot of lorenzo n rozel comments. milano (imported range) also makes their sofas in shanghai.. Italy sofas would be twice the price @ about 25k but i don't like them because most designs are classic ones. Any complains on milano besides price?

I bought ikea Kivik sofa.no one has commented on it. Any comments?

they are all made in china. even melandas also made in china. if really made in itali you may have to sell a kidney to buy one. anyway even italian sofas are made in china....LOL

Bovine term is very generic. There are so many different types of bovine leather from corrected to split (bycast) and from cowhide, buffalo hides and other hoof animal hides. Not easy to identify unless one is very experience.

Generally speaking, Pure Aniline leather is a "luxury" leather as they are selected from probably the top few % of cowhides. Selected from top grade hides, they are usually not protected with any pigments.

Protected Aniline on the other hand is different from Pure Aniline where pigment is applied on the grain pattern to ensure a uniformity of colour and resistance to fading. Not to be confused here and my description is not in order of quality.

Semi-Aniline is a very good grade leather after Pure Aniline and easy to maintain being better resistant.

If you are going for Aniline leather, make sure it is of the thick type. This will ensure that the durability of the leather (leather is not warranted, I think), and less crumbly and wrinkly look over time.

The last time I visited Milano Haus they told me there are 5 cat. I think the cat. rating is only used by Milano Haus or rather their Chinese factory supplier as their local supplied sofa do not have such rating. Though they have quite good design on the Chinese sofa, I do not like their construction of just using elastic webbing.

Another issue with imported Chinese sofa is when you have problems. It is a real hassle to get it fix just like the three months delivery.

For your budget, I think you should be able to get decent quality sofa out from some established factories locally. Prices will also be much more attractive and warranty and problems can be resolved much more easily. Just my 2 cents.

how thick is thick? haha the sofa i saw had only 3 cats
whats wrong with elastic webbing? my parents doesnt like local ones because they are using spring..
any shops or factories to recommend? thanks

I bot mine semi aniline leather 1 +2 +3 direct from factory.
check this thread

$$$$$ well spent and is very comfy:)

Pic..

Not necessary to be bothered with the category. In UK some manufacturers uses a different system but very much proprietary. Unlike diamond trade, where there is a standard use internationally. You just need to know what you are buying into.

When I visited Milano Haus, I was amused by one of the sales person telling me that the soft aniline leather is calf leather. I just smile and told him that it is cruel to use a calf for such purpose.

For sofa, 2 thickness is used generally, i.e. 0.7 to 1.0mm (called 1.0mm) and 1.3 to 1.5 mm (called 1.5mm). Go for the 1.5 mm especially for you kind of budget.

For elastic webbing, it depends on the quality used. Personally, I prefer the use of web and non sag spring. I feel better with a firmer base. As to whether the seats uses a spring system or foamed or latex, this depends on the design and sometimes preference.

Let me check with some friends on sofa manufacturers that can do some level of customisation. I will pm you some details when I get it.

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Added on January 12, 2012, 10:26 pmWhen you say Italy sofas, you mean made in Italy or just an Italian branding?


This post has been edited by webby88: Jan 12 2012, 10:26 PM

u can go kota damansara near the qiant there got 1 shop "BIG HOUSE" the price is reasonable n the quality is good . i jusy bought 1 +3 recline chair full leather cost rm3300 leather thickness is 1.1mm

if the leather is corrected grain, what it means?

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Added on January 13, 2012, 7:04 pmWhat is corrected grain leather?

Corrected grain leather is often manufactured from hides that contain lots of imperfections, such as bite marks and scars. These imperfections make the hides unsuitable for use on sofas, so have to be removed first.

To remove these imperfections the leather is first buffed before having an imitated leather grain embossed onto its surface; this embossing gives the leather a more uniform appearance.

Next, the leather is coloured with a pigmented coating that is applied to its surface. The pigmented layer is thick, durable and also helps to cover imperfections further. After these processes are complete the leather is more suitable to be used on sofas.

Corrected grain leather is also referred to as ‘pigmented’ or ‘finished leather’.

What does corrected grain leather look and feel like?

As the process of creating corrected grain leather removes all imperfections resulting in an even appearance, natural characteristics commonly found on leather are no longer visible.

This type of leather is not as soft as other leathers types and can also have a 'plastic' feel to it due to the high amounts of pigment used to coat its surface. The amount of pigment used on corrected grain leather limits shade variation as seen in other types of leather, such as aniline leather, producing a solid colour throughout.

Is a corrected grain leather sofa right for me?

A Corrected grain leather sofa is a great choice if you want a hard wearing, durable and easy to clean sofa. It makes an ideal choice for a busy family home with young children and pets.

A great feature of this leather is that if liquid, such as coffee, is spilt onto your sofa the pigmented coating will resist absorption long enough for you to be able to wipe it down with a damp cloth.

The pigment coating has a great resistance to light and will not fade as rapidly as dyes that are often used to colour unfinished leathers, such as aniline leather.

This post has been edited by tiensong: Jan 13 2012, 07:04 PM

wow looks great semenyih is a little far though

aniline isnt calf leather?

okay great, ill have to ask which cat is 1.5mm then.

my parents said spring will spoil fast thats why ..

yes please do, id like to see more choices

sofas made in italy , my family hired interior designers for our home last time , sofas directly imported from italy if you want modern ones.

Not sure they just "buat tak tahu" or most of those showroom assistants in the reputable sofa shop are not trained/given enough info regarding the product they are selling. You ask them what type of leather, they will just say bovine, u tell explain what bovine is to them, and tell them corrected grain, split, they will insist is bovine again. Not to mention, they don't what system are their sofa made off either.

I'm not blaming on them. Well, how many % of people out there who willing to do so much research on sofa. Most ppl just, "Oh, this shop so big, very reputable, sure won't sell fake/bad things, just find the suitable, pay and go"

A little off topic, Bro webby88, anyhow you are connected to bro prop99? Both of you sound so similar.

The exactly same at Rozel2+3 go for >rm10k after discount so drive half an hour to save few k is worth i guess.

This post has been edited by skng03: Jan 13 2012, 11:04 PM

Aniline leather is not calf leather. However, half of the retailers in town will tell you it is calf leather. Go try google yourself.

Many sofas claimed to be made in Italy (even the reputable ones) may not be true. Take it with a pinch of salt.

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Added on January 13, 2012, 10:03 pmBro pky, you are very knowledgeable on leather and sofa yourself. At least you can safely judge for yourself about the quality.

Prop99 and me have some similar interest. So I know who he is. He helps me procure some sofas to furnish my apartments. And I still owe him some curry fish head.

This post has been edited by webby88: Jan 13 2012, 10:07 PM

Not much knowledge on leather and sofa, i'm just not comfortable parting away with thousand of $$ without knowing what i'm getting. And
all thanks to bro prop99 giving some head start into the leather sofa.

Mine will be comming after CNY and will be the 1st leather sofa ever used.

Did you get the large L shape with thick leather? For me that sofa is really value for $$$.

Bro pky is certainly very knowledgeable.

This thread now have some good information. At least provides people some basis when they go out to shop for sofa.

Wanna check out the some Sentul development next week so can go for fish head curry. CNY curry Yee Sang!!!! Hahaha................!!!

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Added on January 14, 2012, 9:32 ambro pky got the same set as you through the group purchase. Now I heard prices will be going up very soon from the manufacturer.

This post has been edited by prop99: Jan 14 2012, 09:34 AM

Went out with a friend to window shop for sofas and other furniture. Quite a few sofas on sale claimed to be leather but the does not give a feel like leather. It feels very rubbery. Tried the scratch test, it bounces back like PVC or PU. I think buyers need to be cautious.

Got some good buy in Sentul arh? Share share hor?

For curry Yee Sang, you need to find a shop that serve that lar....... Otherwise, you buy me Pau Yee Yee Sang.

This is also my observation. Under such circumstances, just refrain from buying. If it is leather, my guess is that it is either highly pigmented due to extreme buffing (usually poor quality badly scarred cowhide) or split leather where a PU layer is applied. Worst still, may be faux leather/leatherette/leather bond/recycle leather which sometimes being misled for leather.

I was in an established furniture retailer some weeks back. There was an offer of about RM4k for a 2 + 3 leather sofa. Stated full leather and made locally. The sofa felt like half leather so I ask the sales person to feel. He said they have the same suspicion but when they contacted the supplier, they said it is full leather. So my guess under such circumstances, the back may be split leather or some other poor quality leather.

A word of caution, make sure when buying full leather, ask if the whole sofa is the same leather. Try feeling the back of the sofa to see if it gives the same feel.

I do encounter a salesperson admitting they are using diffrent leather for non-contact area of a advertised full leather sofa. If observe properly can easily see the different in pigmentation and the difference when touched.

Their answer to the difference? "Oh, the larger area we use better quality bovine, those on the body,etc, because those places will be used more often, then back portion, seldom use, so we use other part of the animal like the leg, etc."
Am just wondering if they are train to say so, or these salesperson just simply bla bla bla just to make sales

melandas just told me this - "Our internal Panaline leather is 1.4 to 1.6mm thick leather, instead of standard leather which is normally 0.9 to 1.0mm thickness. "

Do the pinch test by pinching the leather, divide it by 2 and see if you can get at least a 1.4mm. More accurate, get a calliper to test.
But i doubt they will cheat on the thickness, since its easily detectable. If a competitor pay a visit to the showroom and lodge complain, then trouble.

For the price you paid, RM9k, it better be thick leather.
Good luck to your sales.

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Added on January 16, 2012, 6:31 pmwah...................... so detail bro.



This post has been edited by webby88: Jan 16 2012, 06:31 PM

oh i see, who is lying? the suppliers or the salespeople

oh we trust that shop because the owner is italian and we have to ship the couch down ourselves.

A simple google search can easily reveal that Aniline Leather got it's name from the way the leather is processed.
I believe aniline leather doesn't neccessary to be coming from a calf.

Need some pro to correct me. In my opinion, any hide, handle with care to ensure the animal doesn't suffer from scratches/injuries to their skin should have a pretty high chance for their skin to be processed into aniline leather. Afterall, aniline dyes is done to fully retains the hide's natural surface, a little scar is beauty, too much scars, better process it more to hide the scars.

Not all Italian branded furniture is made in Italy. Here is one article. http://www.chinasmack.com/2011/stories/da-...ng-scandal.html

Most cattle is raised for the meat and cowhide is just a by product. By virtue of this, most commercial beef producing countries are major source of cowhides. This is good as leather can be classified as regenerative. As cattle is not purposely raised for the hides, generally scarring is quite natural due to insects, ticks, scratches, barbwires etc.

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Added on January 16, 2012, 9:33 pmThis is quite an eye opener.

This post has been edited by webby88: Jan 16 2012, 09:33 PM

If slaughter calf for leather, many animal activist group will go after the ranch. Also does not make economic sense as well. Leather can be processed to be soft through milling. However, the lower grade leather needs to be corrected through pigmentation or coating, thus making it less flexible and harder.

Although corrected lower grade leather (corrected grain) is less flexible and harder, but it has a lot of advantages...

A Corrected grain leather sofa is a great choice if you want a hard wearing, durable and easy to clean sofa. It makes an ideal choice for a busy family home with young children and pets.

A great feature of this leather is that if liquid, such as coffee, is spilt onto your sofa the pigmented coating will resist absorption long enough for you to be able to wipe it down with a damp cloth.

The pigment coating has a great resistance to light and will not fade as rapidly as dyes that are often used to colour unfinished leathers, such as aniline leather.

Corrected grain remains a very generic term used in leather. Most sofas in the market are of corrected grain.

For corrected grain, there are so many varying grades in the market. Some heavily pigmented and some less pigmented but the quality remains in the hide. As long as you know what you are paying for, it is absolutely all right. Don't pay corrected grain but given split or leather bond or a combination.

Hi,

Have anyone ever ordered sofa from the furniture mall at Desa Petaling? It's a very big mall full with furniture shops just beside the Sg Besi hiway, the on with a very big 'Chair' figurine. Anyone have any idea on the quality and service?

How many year u din passby the desa petaling?

I know the place. I've been there before and yesterday but never bought anything cause previous visits just to have a look. I mean anyone every bought something from there? Cause I'm planning to order my sofa there, just don't know how's the quality. The show display, of course, looks nice and feel good.

One more thing I had debated with myself.. Soft and firm sofa (fabric sofa), which one is better for our body?

This post has been edited by lowlowc: Feb 7 2012, 11:31 PM

yep.. me too.. soft n firm fabric sofa.. which 1 better?

hei bro..

if you would like to get leather from that area, pls do avoid.

my story was, the showroom unit and the one in my house wasn't the same leather. tear out in a year time

cheers

Anyone has experience with the sofa sold at IKEA ie: Ektorp brand? From the website, it seems like that it has 10 years guarantee on its brand.
I am surveying for the type of sofa to buy for my new house, and its seem like the sofa from IKEA (fabric type) is within my budget..

Go and try if it feel comfortable to your back and bud. Keep the receipt ikea will honor the warranty.

good to hear that IKEA wil honor the warranty. 10 years warranty, so i guess the quality must be quite ok, else they won't dare to offer that long of warranty, right?
will go and try the sofa within these few weeks.

IKEA will fulfil their warranty as per stated in the warranties. As far as I know, for sofa it is a 10 years limited warranty. You need to know what is covered and what is not in the limited warranty. Usually the limited warranty covers defects in material and workmanship like Frame, Base, Legs etc. However the limited warranty will exclude Fixed leather/fabric top and covers, removable fabric covers etc, due to wear and tear. Same like most local sofa provider which usually give up to 5 years.

My experience with sofas is that it the frame or structure will last a long time, but it is the upholstery like leather or fabric covers that will wear out first.

So not much to shout about in this case. However if IKEA gives good value, from material/construction/finishing and does not hurt your pocket much, then it is alright.

My suggestion is to go around other shops as well to understand more on the product before committing.

Many furniture shop along the highway will change name or move after few years. Even give you 5 years warranty will have hard time finding them back.

Anyway, if your sofa don't fail in the first 6 to 12 months, it will not usually crumble. The rest is wear and tear which is not warranted anyway. However, if you know the manufacturer locally, to send back to factory for upholstery is not difficult if you have unusual wear, just in case.

Not really. my In-law sofa leather just after 12 months the skin peel out. The shop they brought was close down. Luck they saw it another place and managed to get warranty.

Bro prop, my friend need to get the same sofa like the one I bought. You still organising the group purchase? http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2045562/+40

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Added on February 12, 2012, 10:33 pmCan you share what do they do with such warranty claim?

This post has been edited by webby88: Feb 12 2012, 10:33 PM

After few time visit, and talk and talk escalate finally they came and take the sofa to redo. Got to pay transport.

Usually leather do not peel unless it is split leather.

Could be. But since it gave 5 years warranty, it should be honor. Just where can we find the shop is another story.

have anyone use FUTURE sofa b4? appreciate yr any feedback.
i know the factory base in Shah Alam, so more convenient for any warranty issue in case in future, right?

i did't went to survey M&D b4, and will drop by this weekend & see.

CASA ITALY - nice on the design & comfort as well, quite cheap, full leather 3+2 seat = 4k (promo price).

Bro, you and your friends seem to like the sofa very much. Wonder why??


Yes the group purchase is still on as quite a few members here are expecting delivery in the next 2 to 3 months due to the schedule of their renovations. Quite a few took delivery before the CNY. Order soon as prices is due to go up slightly soon. Check your pm.

I'm planning on buying fabric sofa, not leather but I'm a bit scare now by your experience. Mind to PM me which shop over there that sold you their leather sofa?

I went to Ikea and sit on their sofa many times. I noticed the foam is a bit soft but when I read online, it's because they use a layer of memory foam. Is that supposed to be good?

I happened to ask about the warranty. The staff told me the warranty is mainly for the frame and the spring beneath, not much on the cushion and definitely not the fabric. Also asked about the transport fees. They said if after checking and found it's manufacturing problem, then it will be waived. But somehow if they think because anyone stand on the sofa and jump around that caused the problem, you'll be charged.

One thing to note, only the cushion's fabric is removable for washing.

the new one Tidafors is fixed cover, cant remove it for washing. This is the only one disadvantage despite it is so comfort to sit.

Thanks bro.

My friends like it after testing it at may place and finding out the prices. Hehehe......... Now someone is going to belanja me "pau yee".

Anyway, I need to order a 3 seater and chaise, Left configuration. Please add another single no arm seat and an ottoman like the one at my place. This one is confirmed. Delivery in 1st week of March.

Please provide me quote for the dining table with 6 chairs with the same leather as per our discussion. Sent via E-mail would be better as sometimes I am unable to check on the pm here.

I got my fabric sofa delivered last month before CNY and i saw a defect/tear on one of the corner. Last week they detached and taken back the fabric, after 4 days they replaced the fabric with a new one. Not bad service.

Bro phoenix, can post picture for us to admire?

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Added on February 15, 2012, 2:06 pmCheck your email.



This post has been edited by prop99: Feb 15 2012, 02:06 PM

Thank you for getting the factory to quote. Looks reasonable for such quality.



This post has been edited by webby88: Feb 15 2012, 09:20 PM

hi i need some advise. anyone tried this sofa bed before? i'm planning to put it at my living room and can be used for my guests since i'm staying in an apartment.



i found the ads here http://www.salepromos.com/20832/home/furni...or-only-rm1780/

the guy said the material is fabric and washable. delivery is FOC too

thanks

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Added on February 17, 2012, 3:18 pmprop99, i wish is there any selection of fabric sofa in the group purchase?

This post has been edited by ladybike13: Feb 17 2012, 03:18 PM

please check your pm.

Hi prop 99,

Mind to pm me the details/design for the group purchase too?

The sizes are fixed?

Bro, can you check if this sofa is available for group purchase?





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This is the famous Barcelona model. You want original or replica?

is this also a sofa bed?

No lar........ not sofa bed. But this is a very famous designer sofa.

Original as in the following:
Created by Ludwig Mies van der Rohe for the German Pavilion at the 1929 Barcelona Exposition, the Barcelona chair features the pure compositional structure that now epitomizes Modern architecture.

Damn nice!!!

Cannot afford the original. Replica can do.

bought a sofa set from gucca italy.from the showroom everything is nice and perfect. each of the sofa is the same size with each other but when i receive it, some of the seat are not the same size. and for the worst part of it is they say I am too strict and minor defect is acceptable.

can you pm me the detail of the sofa and the price too

How much you pay for it?

7k

This post has been edited by noien: Mar 22 2012, 04:03 PM

for 7K you have to be strict lar.........!!!!

that is y
they give me sh!tty excuse say don be so strict.when the not evenness can be seen with naked eye in just a glance.is that ok?sent a feedback to their hq but still no reply from them.

I have pm you the price for the complete set 1 + 2 + 3 + stool. Not sure what configuration you wanted.

can pm me the same too with image please.

pm you already.

Finally have time to take and upload the picture of my sofa...

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry49983518

You have any similar smaller model ??

Hi Prop99, I moving to a new house soon. Now working on the renovation. May I know how the group purchase work? Any picture to see? Thanks!

Bro, when you want to share a photo of the Barcelona?

This post has been edited by prop99: Mar 31 2012, 08:18 AM

Here is a typical Barcelona Sofa.

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Very nice sofa and fine workmanship. Can pm me the price? Interested to have one for my waiting area.