Hi everyone, went to PIKOM PC Fair last weekend and saw that MSI has launched a whole new range of gaming notebooks with the Nvidia 800M series of GPU's.

But other brands are still launching 2014 models with 700M series. Does this mean something we don't know?

Is the 800M series just a rebadge? Or newer chip?

Sorry for noob question.

no idea. perhaps you can wait for reviews.

A performance summary of the recent Nvidia GPUs, obtained from http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Nvidia...r.114908.0.html

GPU Performances (relative to GTX860m Kepler)
GeForce GTX 880M +65%
GeForce GTX 780M +47%
GeForce GTX 870M +37%
GeForce GTX 860M Maxwell +10%
GeForce GTX 770M +3%
GeForce GTX 860M Kepler Base (Average of 16 games)
GeForce GTX 765M -23%


Newer isn't always better

This post has been edited by [PF] T.J.: Apr 14 2014, 06:16 PM

The current "Maxwell" GPUs are still based on Kepler architecture (28nm). The real Maxwell (20nm) has no ETA yet

What you mean by current Maxwell still based on Kepler?

There's no 20nm GPU this year, so for those that waiting... better stop waiting.

yeah... why u needed it haha

28nm quite good decently man

nanotechnology isnt easy bro. its not like last time, from 65nm to 45nm in a year.

I mean that the current Maxwell, is based on Kepler's architecture, not the proposed 20nm. Not even, the enthusiast cards are higher tweaked rebrands of the previous gen, with the slight exception of the 860m. Slight because there are Kepler variants of it being circulated. Was just a response to a posted a few posts up from mine.

And yes raymond, Moore's Law can only stretch so far.

i think i know what you mean. what you are trying to say is, current generation of potentially Maxwell cards turns out to be Kepler again.
actually, it is a tactic in business. its more like they want to clear out old stocks of the chip, so we cant do anything about it. as a customer, either option is go for AMD or wait.

Doesn't matter if it's on 28nm or 20nm, it still a different architecture. Maxwell on 28nm doesn't offer much performance increase but it does give much better performance per tdp compare to Kepler.

No, both AMD and Nvidia can't jump to 20nm process node because TSMC hit few walls that make them have to delay it this year.

Based on. And also the getting rid of surplus GPU's still ring true. Like I said, a fair portion of them are tweaked rebrands. Like the 870M is a tweaked 780m, or heavily based off it. We might see less of them as the year goes on. As for the 20nm chips, some say that even in 2015, to expect it much later in the year
Doubt I'll be plonking down the cash for a good laptop this year.

Recently cancelled my pre-orders on the Blade 14 for the same reasons. Even with all that R&D, I don't know how it will effectively cool an 870M without having to throttle. May as well buy a half decent laptop and save, wait till next year and splurge on a maxed out laptop worth the money.

But Pascal will arrive in 2016.

Nvlink, stacked DRAM, Unified memory. Much greater feature compare to Maxwell.

Saw the keynote for that and you just reminded me of it. f***sake. Might as well just build a pc :<

this post was just nice.... since im having the kepler gtx860m.. hahah.....

sad that the performance is so much lower than 870m... aiksss....

http://www.lowyat.net/2014/10/nvidia-gefor...m-and-gtx-970m/



This post has been edited by Mr.Docter: Oct 7 2014, 10:09 PM

Whoa. No response yet from ATI?

AMD Radeon R9 M295X on iMac 5K.

Guys..do you think i should wait for 960m laptops? Or go for 860m laptops?

I dont mind waiting, most probably will get it by december....thanks

A lot of nice deals for MSI laptops. N loads of free gifts. Just bought GT72 QD for 6099 n they gave a free bag, Logitech gaming mouse, g17 logitech keyboard n a logitech gaming mousepad. Pretty awesome deal. =D
Was a pity asus did not show their G751 JY laptop. Neither did they have any in stock.

This post has been edited by Roddin: Dec 20 2014, 06:02 PM

Was wondering if the discussion is dead? Anyway anyone can tell me what's the difference between GTX960 and GT960? or GT960 does not exist?