Maybe some of us say Civic new design is fugly in picture.
But the fact is Civic sales volume still higher in US/ Canada although Elantra won North american COTY award.
Same in most part of the world except in Korea.

In real life, Civic design not that ugly. It just safe design. It still have good quality.

Honda Civic get official launching yesterday in Singapore.
Most probably Msian Honda Civic will hav same look. See link:

http://www.sgcarmart.com/news/events_features.php?AID=2514

If Elantra price too high, better get civic rite.

Why Elantra much better than any car in same class like civic?
It won North american COTY award not because it had more gadgets but
1st- Design. More personality and excitement than most cars in the compact segment.
2nd- Spacious interior. wt 110.4 cubic ft it's larger than any competitors in same class. The space same as D-segment car.
3rd- The Elantra's 1.8-liter, 4-cylinder engine gets an EPA-estimated 40 mpg on the highway in any trim. Even 1.6 also rated at 40mpg globally. No need special gadget like competitors.
4th Value for money?

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jan 17 2012, 02:07 PM

I already pay downpayment & book to change my wife car. But thinking to take it back since it's too pricey for local made car. Not worth it I think. Haha..

That's old story. So far it's not Hyundai fault.
It's rated according US EPA standard by US department of Energy not Hyundai.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/how_tested.shtml

Some poll show that EPA rating is true:
http://www.hyundai-forums.com/231-md-2011-...leage-poll.html

Q & A about Elantra fuel economy:

Q: Why am I not getting the rated 29 MPG in city driving?
A: It's simple. There is no such thing as an average city commute, everyone's is different. There is simply no way you'll get an average of 29 MPG while sitting in gridlocked traffic with the air conditioning running on a hot day. If you take a look at your window sticker, you'll see that below the big bold '29' is a passage that reads "Expected Range for Most Drivers - 24 to 34 MPG". If you sit in heavy or stop-and-go traffic or encounter hills, chances are good you'll be at the lower end of this spectrum but if your commute is flat with well-timed traffic signals, it will be higher.

Q: Why am I not getting the rated 40 MPG on the highway?
A: Let's be clear here; just because your commute to work contains ten minutes of highway driving with some heavy traffic in it does NOT mean you will immediately get 40 MPG. Also, you won't be getting anywhere close to 40 MPG by going 85 MPH. Maintain a steady and preferably slower speed over longer highway runs and you'll find the 40 MPG figure is very obtainable.

Q: I'm not getting 33 MPG combined for my commute. Why not?
A: Reset your average speed with each fill-up and keep an eye on it as you drive. Chances are your driving isn't as mixed as you thought it was. Currently I'm averaging 24 MPH / 38.6 KPH (not MPG) in what I used to perceive as mixed driving but if your average speed is any lower than 35 MPH (56 KPH), you're doing the equivalent of 100% city driving.

Q: How can I improve my mileage?
A: The best and easiest thing you can do is treat your accelerator as if there is an egg underneath it. Don't go storming off the line from a light if the very next one down the road is clearly red. The Elantra, like most modern cars, shuts the fuel injectors off while coasting above 25 MPH (40 KPH) so keep the transmission in gear so coast whenever possible. Shifting into neutral will re-engage the injectors and needlessly waste fuel. Using the sport shift function to engine brake down inclines also helps to slow the vehicle while saving brake pad wear. Also stick around in the right lane whenever possible to allow others to pass you. Driving efficiently may be rewarding but slowing everybody else down isn't polite.

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jan 17 2012, 02:49 PM

I will vote 4 U 2 be our PM.
People say UMNO-BN had cronies.
PR even worst. Anak, bini, inlaws, all get high post.
Hopefully U will create new party to lead the country for better future.

Of course nothing impossible in this bolehland..
Not only chicken farm; personal coffee boy who can provide U extra service also can. Hehe..

No such thing 1.8GPI or 1.8GDI in US.
It use same MPI engine.

Please la. This is Elantra thread, this my will be my last post about this. I am neither BN or PR supporters, I am neutral.
In general normal rakyat view, Cronies in PR worse than BN as U can see normal rakyat like us hardly to be a leader or control their party. It being control by cronies from generation to generation at same time. In other word, it's family business.
For example (just name a few), anwar, wan azizah, nurul, azmin ali etc..
lim kit siang, lim guan eng, betty chew etc
karpal singh, Jagdeep singh, Gobind singh etc and many more..
They had control the party by cronies & family and had wide range of business too. They are millionaires if not billionaires.
Most of the time, their post is unchallengeable post and their power cant be denied.

I am yr supporters what. I vote for U to be our leader or PM.
I know U r transparent & fair.

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Added on January 18, 2012, 11:44 amTrue..

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jan 18 2012, 11:44 AM

I think there are no problems to anybody who want to chance car every 2-3 years or buy cheaper car instead affordable car.
It's their money.
I dont mind at all wt them.

"Hyundai overall is more premium than KIA".

It is true a fact but not entirely true.
It just from perspective of global consumer including in south korea from the beginning of korean car industry.

Hyundai and Kia are technically separate companies, with Hyundai owning less than 50% of its junior partner. But as the two major divisions of the Hyundai-Kia Motor Group, the two firms share resources and align their strategies through carefully-maintained relationships in the classic Korean chaebol (conglomerate) fashion.

Hyundai and Kia enjoy a dominant position in Korea, earning 45.2% and 33.2% of the overall Korean market in 2010 (including commercial vehicles).

Technically, it just like Proton and Perodua in Malaysia. Proton initially said to be premium than Perodua. However, time to time Perodua catch up wt Proton in term of pricing & quality. Lastly there almost no different between their car (pricing & quality).

The past few years, it was said that Hyundai built better car as they own better technology, factory and staff.
However, the gap is closer and closer as they share all their resource.
As the result, current car pricing and quality is same.

Aiyo.. Current Mitsubishi car also had that features. No one complain.

If dont want that kind of unlock. Mitsu SC can reprogrammed wt their laptop. Easy as click enable or not only.
Not big problem.

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jan 19 2012, 02:36 PM

Current KIA & Hyundai strategy marketing position is same.
Elantra & Forte
Sonata & K5 optima
Genesis/Equus & K9

VW vs Skoda & Seat of course different brand positioning.

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jan 19 2012, 02:59 PM

Currently similarly price rite. Range of pricing is same.
Where got better spec? more or less is same if compare full wt full accessory.
Of course K9 yet only available in korea, while only marketed globally later. But that not the issue.
In term of marketing positioning, it will be the same as every car; they share technology, engine, chassis etc.. Only design different.

I agree wt U in term of marketing strategy, they attract two set of buyers.
However doesnt mean, in term of pricing, one is premium; another one is not.
Doesnt mean value of Hyundai or KIA better than the other.
K9 more or less same wt Genesis.
K5 more or less same wt Sonata.
It hard to tell which is premium than the other as the gap between them not wide as 10yrs ago.

PS: It also hard to tell which is premium either Honda or Toyota bcoz more or less their strategy is same.

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jan 19 2012, 04:34 PM

How U know Elantra have a Bigger then average loss over the year than accord, proton & nissan?

Cheaper than Kancil. hehe.

If different only RM2-3K.
Mean that confirm final price 1.8L is RM112-118K?

I still not sure 115K CKD Inokom is value car to buy as it same wt Japanese car. Still 50-50. Hope somebody can convinced me it's a better choice.
I not expect the price should pair with Forte. But I hope the price is below 110K (then surely will buy).

When I buy a lancer. My big2 boss ask why dont I buy a camry or Prius instead of lancer.
That's a easily I can answer bcoz it's fully imported, sporty, for young guy, value for money etc...
Itu pun masih lg dia nak menang by said those car better. Diam je la.
If I buy another car an Inokom, of course my big2 boss will ask again. How to answer if Inokom price too pricey, I am not sure.

My wife ( a Doctor) say she don wan to pay monthly installment wt her salary. Just enough payment wt her monthly oncall claim. Cheaper is better.
That's why instead of buy a conti or D segment car.
I decided top buy C segment car.
But is it 115K CKD Inokom value car to buy? Hmm...

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Feb 1 2012, 10:38 AM

Because generally in Asia or South Korea itself, Elantra full spec price is just slightly higher than full spec Forte.
But it's not true for North American or Europe market where it's more or less same.

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Added on February 1, 2012, 11:02 amhaha.. Maybe depend on Inokom price.

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Feb 1 2012, 11:02 AM