rarely see malays eating duck meat
is duck halal?
is duck halal?
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Jan 1 2012, 02:30 PM, updated 14y ago
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just curious
rarely see malays eating duck meat |
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Jan 1 2012, 02:31 PM
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Duck sembelih with Bismillah.. HALAL~
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Jan 1 2012, 02:31 PM
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itik mahal la..
susah nk carik pulak tuh... bukan masalah halal... |
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Jan 1 2012, 02:32 PM
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nasi itik susah nak cari
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Jan 1 2012, 02:32 PM
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Halal la.
We takleh makan haiwan bertaring, berbisa dan babi ja. |
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Jan 1 2012, 02:32 PM
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I remember eating Nasi Itik a few months ago. RM5 per plate, quite expensive for a poorfag like me.
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Malaysia duck/goose not muslim eat wan.
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Jan 1 2012, 02:33 PM
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Halal & quite smelly abit
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Jan 1 2012, 02:34 PM
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never seen malay eat duck and turkey, wonder why.
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duck is hard to cook mang.
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the price mang. it is all about the price. and the availability of those product.
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Chicken is haram. Cow is haram. Goat is haram.
If they didn't prepared (sembelih) properly. |
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ular.
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![]() I want to ask whether Muslim can eat this dish?(I know you all cannot eat char siew and siu nyuk) but Ngap Fan can? |
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Duck is halal if sembelih properly and muslim way. kolos sebulum jdi vroom vroom tered
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halal la. sembelih bagi betul ekot cara. jangan pakai makan je itik gantung tuh.
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Duck's good. Same with rabbit and venison, but chicken, fish and beef are easier to get. Plus, I don't think there's many recipes with ducks in it.
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QUOTE(yuusuke-kun @ Jan 1 2012, 02:38 PM) The thread has served it's purpose. It has been answered what need to be explained? Explanations don't need to be long, the simpler the better so people understand.DUCK IS HALAL PROVIDED IT IS SLAUGHTERED/SEMBELIH THE ISLAM WAY. |
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Chainis duck rice is nais. Crispy outside, soft soft inside.
And the kuah kasi banjir all over, gerenti mouth wet wet. |
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QUOTE(AKace @ Jan 1 2012, 02:40 PM) Sometimes i am awed by stupid people asking stupid questions...bcoz they never bother to use their brain to understand the situation beforehand...this applies to a lot of muslim people hence my sometimes 'racist' comments.Have you ever ask if the chicken rice or duck rice seller slaughter their own poultry or they buy from whole sellers? You try becomes chicken rice seller 1 day sell 200 chicken you go try slaughter and prepped 200 chicken see you DAI or not. Stupid morons... The poultrys are supplied by wholesalers who are certified halal at the production line, so does the chicken rice seller to get another halal certification? Hence CHINESE chicken rice/duck rice seller NO NEED depend on your business because it is SO insignificant. You mau makan duduk diam diam, lu tara mau makan pi main jauh jauh jan kakacaucau here. |
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QUOTE(empyreal @ Jan 1 2012, 02:42 PM) Duck's good. Same with rabbit and venison, but chicken, fish and beef are easier to get. Plus, I don't think there's many recipes with ducks in it. alot for duck. jsut that malays are not masters in cookeryin chinese, theres lou ngap, siew ngap, pei pa ngap, lap ngap, chao ngap, mun ngap, tan ngap, peking ngap, and macam macam lagi. |
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Not halal because "amphibious" by their definition.
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for certain ethnic is consider as taboo or pantang
especially in melanau |
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crab is gooding yo
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better question, is penguin halal?
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So Muslims cannot eat oc oc dile???
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is crab halal?LOL
Added on January 1, 2012, 2:58 pmpenguin,crocodile,crab..anymore? This post has been edited by hown: Jan 1 2012, 02:58 PM |
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Crab = 2 alam? Yes i think.....so haram??
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rat halal ? rat meat taste good
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QUOTE(hown @ Jan 1 2012, 02:57 PM) QUOTE(Ahsin1987 @ Jan 1 2012, 02:59 PM) Crab is halal the non-amphibian one that is.That one ketam batu, ketam batu kenot eat becoz amphibian. Crocodile kenot eat because they eat human and bertaring. Penguin I dunno sorry |
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QUOTE(itanium @ Jan 1 2012, 02:58 PM) Muslim usually consume crabs that only dwell in sea. But if I'm not mistaken, some Muslims especially the Hanafi Sect will regard eating shellfish (crab, lobster etc) as Harrromm.This post has been edited by MsGaijin: Jan 1 2012, 03:06 PM |
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rat is probably haram, bcos it is consider as dirty
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QUOTE(boyot @ Jan 1 2012, 02:59 PM) .......a crab is a crab is a crab is a crab.....It doesnt fkin matter if you drink carlsberg/tiger/heineken...its still beer.....so now theres halal ketam and non halal ketam? WOA.... |
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QUOTE(itanium @ Jan 1 2012, 03:06 PM) .......a crab is a crab is a crab is a crab..... Yes there is halal crab and non-halal one. The one that dwells in the sea can be eaten, but the amphibian one kenot.It doesnt fkin matter if you drink carlsberg/tiger/heineken...its still beer.....so now theres halal ketam and non halal ketam? WOA.... |
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QUOTE(powerangah @ Jan 1 2012, 03:04 PM) Crab is halal the non-amphibian one that is.That one ketam batu, ketam batu kenot eat becoz amphibian. Crocodile kenot eat because they eat human and bertaring. Penguin I dunno sorry see, this is why no need to kolos, because later there will be other chain related questions need to be answered since them who shy to ask their muslim friends IRL, this also can consider as da'wah |
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QUOTE(itanium @ Jan 1 2012, 03:06 PM) .......a crab is a crab is a crab is a crab..... what do carlsberg/tiger/heineken had in common? alcohol = haramIt doesnt fkin matter if you drink carlsberg/tiger/heineken...its still beer.....so now theres halal ketam and non halal ketam? WOA.... there are certain crab where it can lives in pantai and sea, and there only certain crab race where can only lives in sea, and the latter one is halal |
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see the link i post earlier about penguin from Majlis Ugama Islam Singapore..
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QUOTE(boyot @ Jan 1 2012, 03:10 PM) what do carlsberg/tiger/heineken had in common? alcohol = haram bread contains alcohol yothere are certain crab where it can lives in pantai and sea, and there only certain crab race where can only lives in sea, and the latter one is halal This post has been edited by slimey: Jan 1 2012, 03:12 PM |
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halal la.... even you sembelih a tapir also halal.
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Inb4 someone quotes old testament and then someone replies that old rituals are no longer necessary, then someone disputes this
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QUOTE(itanium @ Jan 1 2012, 03:38 PM) QUOTE(itanium @ Jan 1 2012, 03:46 PM) Sometimes i am awed by stupid people asking stupid questions...bcoz they never bother to use their brain to understand the situation beforehand...this applies to a lot of muslim people hence my sometimes 'racist' comments. Sometimes I am at awe how stupid you were, when u assume you are the most intelligent among /k.Have you ever ask if the chicken rice or duck rice seller slaughter their own poultry or they buy from whole sellers? You try becomes chicken rice seller 1 day sell 200 chicken you go try slaughter and prepped 200 chicken see you DAI or not. Stupid morons... The poultrys are supplied by wholesalers who are certified halal at the production line, so does the chicken rice seller to get another halal certification? Hence CHINESE chicken rice/duck rice seller NO NEED depend on your business because it is SO insignificant. You mau makan duduk diam diam, lu tara mau makan pi main jauh jauh jan kakacaucau here. U know the restaurant does not slaughter the chicken, but they bought it in dead state ady right? U know how to the halal meat should be right? U know that to slaughter an animal, it must be done by a MUSLIM, right? So u must know that, if u bought a dead slaughtered chicken from non-Muslim (wet market), u know that there is no way he can produce a halal chicken without losing his profit (i.e hiring a Muslim slaughterer). Then you should know how halal meat can be non-halal after cooked right? (i.e, cooked alongside with pig meat, using alcohol/wine, using animal oil) So tell me, why the chicken rice seller no need to get another halal certification? If u dun wan to bother a heck about the HALAL, then you dun have to bother to market it to a Muslim. Coz, Muslim wont even bother to eat a Non-Halal food. |
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This thread mass double standard practice detected.
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QUOTE(slimey @ Jan 1 2012, 03:14 PM) then food cooked with small quantity of alcohol is halal if its intoxicant even by little is haramdrinking small amount of alcoholic drink is halal thats what makes alcohol haram but the alcohol they used in bread, is very little quantity where one would not drunk if eaten in massive portion so its halal |
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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Jan 1 2012, 03:14 PM) Sometimes I am at awe how stupid you were, when u assume you are the most intelligent among /k. You also another dead stupid moron. Chicken rice seller dont but from wet market they got no time for it. The wholeseller delivers to them.U know the restaurant does not slaughter the chicken, but they bought it in dead state ady right? U know how to the halal meat should be right? U know that to slaughter an animal, it must be done by a MUSLIM, right? So u must know that, if u bought a dead slaughtered chicken from non-Muslim (wet market), u know that there is no way he can produce a halal chicken without losing his profit (i.e hiring a Muslim slaughterer). Then you should know how halal meat can be non-halal after cooked right? (i.e, cooked alongside with pig meat, using alcohol/wine, using animal oil) So tell me, why the chicken rice seller no need to get another halal certification? If u dun wan to bother a heck about the HALAL, then you dun have to bother to market it to a Muslim. Coz, Muslim wont even bother to eat a Non-Halal food. |
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QUOTE(boyot @ Jan 1 2012, 03:16 PM) if its intoxicant even by little is haram then sandy is halal lo thats what makes alcohol haram but the alcohol they used in bread, is very little quantity where one would not drunk if eaten in massive portion so its halal bread contains alcohol alcohol is intoxicant intoxicant is haram even is little amount thus bread is haram |
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QUOTE(boyot @ Jan 1 2012, 03:16 PM) if its intoxicant even by little is haram yes your statement is right, many people didnt understand include muslim itself...thats what makes alcohol haram but the alcohol they used in bread, is very little quantity where one would not drunk if eaten in massive portion so its halal |
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QUOTE(itanium @ Jan 1 2012, 04:17 PM) You also another dead stupid moron. Chicken rice seller dont but from wet market they got no time for it. The wholeseller delivers to them. as I said, i.e. and the chicken rice seller does not only apply for mass production, but I also would like to apply to those small hawkers. bodoh, bacalah dulu sampai habis. |
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![]() Hi everyone,I want to ask that whether in 1970s or 1980s,is it muslim allow to drink Guiness stout?Because I saw /k/ post some picture regarding guinness as the picture show above Mind to explain? |
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QUOTE(lim360 @ Jan 1 2012, 03:20 PM) ![]() Hi everyone,I want to ask that whether in 1970s or 1980s,is it muslim allow to drink Guiness stout?Because I saw /k/ post some picture regarding guinness as the picture show above Mind to explain? but people in that era are not that religious because of british influence |
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QUOTE(slimey @ Jan 1 2012, 04:18 PM) then sandy is halal lo yup. if that bread were made by using beer or even wine, then YES, that bread is HARAM.bread contains alcohol alcohol is intoxicant intoxicant is haram even is little amount thus bread is haram QUOTE(lim360 @ Jan 1 2012, 04:20 PM) ![]() Hi everyone,I want to ask that whether in 1970s or 1980s,is it muslim allow to drink Guiness stout?Because I saw /k/ post some picture regarding guinness as the picture show above Mind to explain? |
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itik haiwan 3 alam,...
1)langit 2)air 3)darat so 2 alam already kenot,... 3 alam definitely kenot.. |
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QUOTE(lim360 @ Jan 1 2012, 03:20 PM) ![]() Hi everyone,I want to ask that whether in 1970s or 1980s,is it muslim allow to drink Guiness stout?Because I saw /k/ post some picture regarding guinness as the picture show above Mind to explain? So now u know. |
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QUOTE(itanium @ Jan 1 2012, 03:21 PM) Racist?Jakun~ This post has been edited by MsGaijin: Jan 1 2012, 03:25 PM |
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QUOTE(slimey @ Jan 1 2012, 04:24 PM) then how much is the alcohol percentage? Is it above/way much higher than the standards that were given by Jakim? If yes, then its HAROM. If not, then its HALAL. QUOTE(MsGaijin @ Jan 1 2012, 04:24 PM) superiority complex. |
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QUOTE(boyot @ Jan 1 2012, 03:26 PM) the haram is not the element of -OH sandy is fine then but what is consider as intoxicant which is called "khamr" in arabic you wont drunk consuming bread but you would after 2 pin of wine/beer the intoxicant in a alcoholic beverage is alcohol, thus alcohol is an intoxicant |
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QUOTE(suicideroach @ Jan 1 2012, 03:24 PM) were you born in that year? before the 1990s, there are no official religious body regulate the country. There are no JAIS, no JAKIM. So mulsim back then are free to drink beer,Tiger,Carlsberg,and even guinness whenever they want to?(If they want) So now u know. |
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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Jan 1 2012, 03:27 PM) then how much is the alcohol percentage? Is it above/way much higher than the standards that were given by Jakim? from 0.04 to 1.9 according to http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1709087/?page=1If yes, then its HAROM. If not, then its HALAL. superiority complex. |
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QUOTE(lim360 @ Jan 1 2012, 03:27 PM) So mulsim back then are free to drink beer,Tiger,Carlsberg,and even guinness whenever they want to?(If they want) not to mention during that time is was really hard to see female muslim wear tudung, those who pakai always taunted as old, ustazah, they all go to school wearing skirt some more |
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QUOTE(yuusuke-kun @ Jan 1 2012, 03:32 PM) not to mention during that time is was really hard to see female muslim wear tudung, those who pakai always taunted as old, ustazah, they all go to school wearing skirt some more Wow,if you say like that,those Muslims in 1960s,1970s,and 1980s are quite different from nowadays |
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QUOTE(slimey @ Jan 1 2012, 04:29 PM) Fatwas issued by international jurists and Islamic organisations have ruled that it is permissible to consume food and beverage that contain alcohol at levels that do not intoxicate. These levels are established at a very minimum level range of 0.01% to 0.05%, on the basis that at these levels the amount is not significant in causing intoxication. Thus, the prohibition is directed at the effects of alcohol itself, which is its intoxicating nature. QUOTE(slimey @ Jan 1 2012, 04:32 PM) alcohol is alcohol no matter what form sigh. its fermentation.no learn chemistry? and alcohol in bread is not for preservative purpose |
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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Jan 1 2012, 03:35 PM) Fatwas issued by international jurists and Islamic organisations have ruled that it is permissible to consume food and beverage that contain alcohol at levels that do not intoxicate. These levels are established at a very minimum level range of 0.01% to 0.05%, on the basis that at these levels the amount is not significant in causing intoxication. Thus, the prohibition is directed at the effects of alcohol itself, which is its intoxicating nature. most of the bread at bakery already have higher alcohol contain then that.sigh. its fermentation. yes it is fermentation.......same as beer, wine etc...... |
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QUOTE(slimey @ Jan 1 2012, 03:32 PM) alcohol is alcohol no matter what form if alcohol is alcohol, then by logic you will drunk if you eat horde loaf of breadno learn chemistry? and alcohol in bread is not for preservative purpose QUOTE(hown @ Jan 1 2012, 03:32 PM) if its intoxicant is haram even a little |
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QUOTE(boyot @ Jan 1 2012, 03:37 PM) if alcohol is alcohol, then by logic you will drunk if you eat horde loaf of bread lol......it is the amount of alcohol consumed......if its intoxicant is haram even a little you assume you take a bit of sandy you will get drunk hahahaha bread contains alcohol....alcohol is intoxicant. fact! |
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Icic...............but one thing,those cough syrup you got from Clinic also consider as alcohol,if u consume,it will something like drunk and get sleepy.
So in that case,mind to explain how to deal with this kind of situation? This topic is interesting and I want to know more |
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QUOTE(slimey @ Jan 1 2012, 03:39 PM) lol......it is the amount of alcohol consumed...... what makes it haram is not the alcohol itselfyou assume you take a bit of sandy you will get drunk hahahaha bread contains alcohol....alcohol is intoxicant. fact! but the form where it is consider as intoxicant after consuming |
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QUOTE(boyot @ Jan 1 2012, 03:42 PM) what makes it haram is not the alcohol itself no body got drunk drinking sandybut the form where it is consider as intoxicant after consuming alcohol is the one that is intoxicating.......take out alcohol from a beer and you got sparkling drink that's all This post has been edited by slimey: Jan 1 2012, 03:45 PM |
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QUOTE(lim360 @ Jan 1 2012, 03:40 PM) Icic...............but one thing,those cough syrup you got from Clinic also consider as alcohol,if u consume,it will something like drunk and get sleepy. if its for medication purpose then it consider as 'harus' where it is a situation where you have to consume it to get better/live another day, most people called this situation as daruratSo in that case,mind to explain how to deal with this kind of situation? This topic is interesting and I want to know more Added on January 1, 2012, 3:48 pm QUOTE(slimey @ Jan 1 2012, 03:44 PM) no body got drunk drinking sandy im or you are not the one making the judgement whether is haram or halalalcohol is the one that is intoxicating.......take out alcohol from a beer and you got sparkling drink that's all if you consider it by your dictionary and knowledge is halal, then go for it drink all sandy you want but if you doubt whether is haram or halal then better to abstain from it This post has been edited by boyot: Jan 1 2012, 03:48 PM |
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QUOTE(boyot @ Jan 1 2012, 03:45 PM) if its for medication purpose then it consider as 'harus' where it is a situation where you have to consume it to get better/live another day, most people called this situation as darurat Thanks for your explain,appreciate it.So can I say that Cough syrup itself technically consider as non halal,but due to health issue,so it can be acceptable right?Added on January 1, 2012, 3:48 pm im or you are not the one making the judgement whether is haram or halal if you consider it by your dictionary and knowledge is halal, then go for it drink all sandy you want but if you doubt whether is haram or halal then better to abstain from it But I know some of the people serious addicted to cough syrup and they drink it on a daily basis so that they can sleep comfortably.Is like addicted to drug and alchohol also So if muslim is addicted in that case,is that consider haram? |
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i never buy food that is specifically halal, unless its for convenience sake (ie like in care4)
i don like consuming food which are prayed to other gods (especially halal food). and more so buying it the money goes to another religious group (ie for halal certification). so really, i abhor halal food. its blasphemous for me to eat it. i'd go for religiously neutral food anytime possible. i find this more healthy and cleaner and more economically justifiable and rigteousfully good in Jesus' eyes. hallelujah. lets boycott all halal food. |
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there is guideline of what is halal or haram, and there are certain of them are not clearly written whether is haram or halal.
and people shouldnt make a big issue if one consume of what is not clearly written as haram or halal. if its not in the guideline and your knowledge conclude that this is halal, go for it |
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QUOTE(lim360 @ Jan 1 2012, 04:53 PM) Thanks for your explain,appreciate it.So can I say that Cough syrup itself technically consider as non halal,but due to health issue,so it can be acceptable right? if u drink it without doctor's advice, then its already become addiction. Addiction which leads to self-destruction = HAROM. ie. drugsBut I know some of the people serious addicted to cough syrup and they drink it on a daily basis so that they can sleep comfortably.Is like addicted to drug and alchohol also So if muslim is addicted in that case,is that consider haram? |
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QUOTE(lim360 @ Jan 1 2012, 03:53 PM) Thanks for your explain,appreciate it.So can I say that Cough syrup itself technically consider as non halal,but due to health issue,so it can be acceptable right? YesBut I know some of the people serious addicted to cough syrup and they drink it on a daily basis so that they can sleep comfortably.Is like addicted to drug and alchohol also So if muslim is addicted in that case,is that consider haram? if its for medication, is halal but if its for addiction or any other things that is not related to medication, then is consider as haram |
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QUOTE(happy4ever @ Jan 1 2012, 04:53 PM) i never buy food that is specifically halal, unless its for convenience sake (ie like in care4) its ok if u want to boycott. but if u want to boycott it on ur own, its ok. No harm done. i don like consuming food which are prayed to other gods (especially halal food). and more so buying it the money goes to another religious group (ie for halal certification). so really, i abhor halal food. its blasphemous for me to eat it. i'd go for religiously neutral food anytime possible. i find this more healthy and cleaner and more economically justifiable and rigteousfully good in Jesus' eyes. hallelujah. lets boycott all halal food. |
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QUOTE(happy4ever @ Jan 1 2012, 03:53 PM) i never buy food that is specifically halal, unless its for convenience sake (ie like in care4) Yes you people do have that kind of optioni don like consuming food which are prayed to other gods (especially halal food). and more so buying it the money goes to another religious group (ie for halal certification). so really, i abhor halal food. its blasphemous for me to eat it. i'd go for religiously neutral food anytime possible. i find this more healthy and cleaner and more economically justifiable and rigteousfully good in Jesus' eyes. hallelujah. lets boycott all halal food. its ridiculous to think how the state of food can make us fight each other |
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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Jan 1 2012, 03:57 PM) thanks for your support for our cause. in due time, u too shall embrace Jesus' love. hallelujah. heaven rejoice as another brethren joins into our Father's Kingdom. blessed new year! |
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QUOTE(boyot @ Jan 1 2012, 03:58 PM) Yes you people do have that kind of option yesits ridiculous to think how the state of food can make us fight each other instead, we should be making love with each other while having our meals. like u know, the human sushi? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(happy4ever @ Jan 1 2012, 04:00 PM) yes This seriously humanity disaster in the earth,perhaps you can enjoy the food happily,but if you imagine you daughter or sister sleep nude there and people enjoy sushi ,how will you feel?instead, we should be making love with each other while having our meals. like u know, the human sushi? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(buysellaccount @ Jan 1 2012, 04:03 PM) nothis is 2 alam ![]() QUOTE(happy4ever @ Jan 1 2012, 04:04 PM) My eternally long sausage of heavenly proportion will bring forth the yuletide of happiness in its suction from your mouth...oh my brethren of holiness. can i get the hallelujah come and rejoice as we savour our sausages of paradise between the legs of heaven! |
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QUOTE(boyot @ Jan 1 2012, 03:42 PM) what makes it haram is not the alcohol itself So you are saying that it isnt the alcohol thats haram but its when the alcohol that MAKES you in a drunken state that makes it haram?? Is that what you are saying???but the form where it is consider as intoxicant after consuming |
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QUOTE(itanium @ Jan 1 2012, 04:27 PM) So you are saying that it isnt the alcohol thats haram but its when the alcohol that MAKES you in a drunken state that makes it haram?? Is that what you are saying??? from my understanding, yessince you understand islam better than me, do correct me if i make mistake somewhere |
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So technically if some muslim who doesnt get drunk drinking alcohol it isnt haram to him then? Is that correct??
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I rest my case, confirm the most double standard - period.
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QUOTE(randyhow @ Jan 1 2012, 03:30 PM) QUOTE(MsGaijin @ Jan 1 2012, 03:33 PM) sesungguh ceteknya pengetahuan kamu,... tidakkah kesemua haiwan dari contoh migrate ke tempat lain terbang beberapa hari?.... kadang-kadang beberapa minggu,... ya... betul semua haiwan dari contoh di atas,.. tidur bila terbang.... |
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Actually... ethanol produced due to fermentation is evaporated because ethanol is highly volatile and has a low boiling point. When the bread is baked...the
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I wish for discussion to be dont with a proper sentence. Please describe as full as you can.
As fast response without a roper sentence would get other confuse. For Troll, if you have a 3 seconds laugh, fook you. Respect each other is a key point. Karma would hit back, sooner or later. Have a bad day today, remember you trolled 2 day ago? |
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Order chicken rice (siew kai)+ small bowl of rice+ add siew kai meat+ add char siew + add duck meat + lotsa sweet sauce + lotsa chili (banjir style)= AWESOME!!!!!!
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QUOTE(randyhow @ Jan 1 2012, 04:44 PM) i never heard someone drunk in something they lovemaybe your definition of drunk is different from general definition QUOTE(slimey @ Jan 1 2012, 04:44 PM) i already know a lot about the religion. if you already know then why the question then?but i see you are ignorant on what and what not makes a thing intoxicating come with me, then i make you understand |
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QUOTE(boyot @ Jan 1 2012, 04:50 PM) Woa...you never see a king crab before? shallow....you can find this at your local fish market. Cainis seldom eat this, usually those muslim malay fisherman know how to cook them well.This post has been edited by itanium: Jan 1 2012, 04:54 PM |
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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Jan 1 2012, 04:28 PM) never eated those! NEVEERRR!!!!QUOTE(Ahsin1987 @ Jan 1 2012, 04:47 PM) Is this haram for muslim ??I heard you can drunk after ate it .. what abomination is this? looks like monster from half life!!! ptuik!!!!» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « saw these in care4 also. damn geli. |
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QUOTE(slimey @ Jan 1 2012, 04:50 PM) there is no such thing as double standardwhat you to do now is put down you ego, and learn to accept other people perspective QUOTE(ryanliew87 @ Jan 1 2012, 04:51 PM) they can love others drink thenmilo ais, teh tarik, laici kang |
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QUOTE(itanium @ Jan 1 2012, 04:52 PM) Woa...you never see a king crab before? shallow....you can find this at your local fish market. Cainis seldom eat this, usually those muslim malay fisherman know how to cook them well. i never saw such hideous look like creatureQUOTE(Ahsin1987 @ Jan 1 2012, 04:53 PM) if its live only in the sea, then is halal.is it gooding the meat? |
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Boyot = UNDISPUTABLE King of double standards
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QUOTE(itanium @ Jan 1 2012, 04:52 PM) Woa...you never see a king crab before? shallow....you can find this at your local fish market. Cainis seldom eat this, usually those muslim malay fisherman know how to cook them well. horseshoe crab la....can find in some cainis seafood restaurant.....malay muslim ppl can go melaka Portuguese settlement enjoyQUOTE(boyot @ Jan 1 2012, 04:55 PM) those drink lioa not high oso...oni got kencing manisThis post has been edited by ryanliew87: Jan 1 2012, 05:00 PM |
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QUOTE(boyot @ Jan 1 2012, 04:57 PM) i never saw such hideous look like creature tat 1 is belangkas...but not so popular as crab, but if prepped right, very nice 1if its live only in the sea, then is halal. is it gooding the meat? usually fishermen only sell, market doesn't, since these thing's hard to come by. n yes. it is halal. anything that is from the sea is halal, regardless of from whom it is prepped or obtained. but not AMPHIBIANS, these guys is absolutely forbidden. |
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me muslims and eat duck before. Oh, it taste delicious~~~~!
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QUOTE(ryanliew87 @ Jan 1 2012, 05:00 PM) horseshoe crab la....can find in some cainis seafood restaurant.....malay muslim ppl can go melaka Portuguese settlement enjoy Ok horseshoe crab those drink lioa not high oso...oni got kencing manis The cainis here dont eat them, only those muslim with dubious IMM papers who claims to be local malays eat them. They are poisonous if they are not prepped properly before cooking. This post has been edited by itanium: Jan 1 2012, 05:04 PM |
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QUOTE(itanium @ Jan 1 2012, 04:58 PM) i only explain to those who gets the idea wrong QUOTE(slimey @ Jan 1 2012, 04:59 PM) if calling me ignorant will makes you happy, then please call me that as many as you like i love to make people happy, rather to see them sad QUOTE(ryanliew87 @ Jan 1 2012, 05:00 PM) horseshoe crab la....can find in some cainis seafood restaurant.....malay muslim ppl can go melaka Portuguese settlement enjoy then dont put sugar then, put saltthose drink lioa not high oso...oni got kencing manis problem solve |
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dafuq u guys say duck is dua alam,duck dont live underwater,it swims on the water
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let make this clear once and for all
HARAM » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Addition » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « more FAQ animal : » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « and Muslim were taught that under Darurat condition, they can consume non-Halal food just to avoid illness and prevent death. Not to enjoy sampai kenyang om nom nom feel free to add anything This post has been edited by petirbuas: Jan 1 2012, 05:49 PM |
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QUOTE(petirbuas @ Jan 1 2012, 05:10 PM) let make this clear once and for all SS2 Taman Megah Fatty Crab i see many malays go makan itu chilli crabHARAM » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Addition » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « more FAQ animal : » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « and Muslim were taught that under Darurat condition, they can consume non-Halal food just to avoid illness and prevent death. Not to enjoy sampai kenyang om nom nom feel free to add anything good yo |
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QUOTE(petirbuas @ Jan 1 2012, 05:10 PM) let make this clear once and for all On 2 alam animals, it is khilaf ~ some jurists say yes, some say no. Those who say haram bcos they interpret since frogs are forbidden, the same applies to other amphibians/2 alam animals (there's a specific hadith that prohibit eating frogs). HARAM » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Addition » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « more FAQ animal : » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « and Muslim were taught that under Darurat condition, they can consume non-Halal food just to avoid illness and prevent death. Not to enjoy sampai kenyang om nom nom feel free to add anything The rule is: Origin of all things is halal, except when it has been prohibited by the texts. |
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dunno why you guise talk about alchohol more than duck in this thread
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QUOTE(PetomJL @ Jan 1 2012, 05:33 PM) On 2 alam animals, it is khilaf ~ some jurists say yes, some say no. Those who say haram bcos they interpret since frogs are forbidden, the same applies to other amphibians/2 alam animals (there's a specific hadith that prohibit eating frogs). agreed. pipel in malaysia is stuck with syafie's or/and text book. pipel need to learn why it is haram or halal base on what, what principle it use.The rule is: Origin of all things is halal, except when it has been prohibited by the texts. |
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QUOTE(PetomJL @ Jan 1 2012, 05:33 PM) On 2 alam animals, it is khilaf ~ some jurists say yes, some say no. Those who say haram bcos they interpret since frogs are forbidden, the same applies to other amphibians/2 alam animals (there's a specific hadith that prohibit eating frogs). yes there khilaf about this between Muslim scholar(ulama') worldwide but Malaysian ulama' accepted convention is 2 alam animal is haram or makruh(can but better if don't eat) thus on common people level like us, it is better to say it is not edible by Muslim. But I'm not saying I reject other ulama'...The rule is: Origin of all things is halal, except when it has been prohibited by the texts. wait I change my post from Haram to Haram/Makruh |
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QUOTE(randyhow @ Jan 1 2012, 04:41 PM) sesungguh ceteknya pengetahuan kamu,... tidakkah kesemua haiwan dari contoh migrate ke tempat lain terbang beberapa hari?.... kadang-kadang beberapa minggu,... ya... betul semua haiwan dari contoh di atas,.. tidur bila terbang.... tido bole terbang?..howw laaaa?...tutup mate also can fly?.. |
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QUOTE(PetomJL @ Jan 1 2012, 05:33 PM) On 2 alam animals, it is khilaf ~ some jurists say yes, some say no. Those who say haram bcos they interpret since frogs are forbidden, the same applies to other amphibians/2 alam animals (there's a specific hadith that prohibit eating frogs). nice explanation The rule is: Origin of all things is halal, except when it has been prohibited by the texts. |
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i want to ask why meleis don't eat meaty red-orange crabs, always the flower crabs that have no meat
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QUOTE(randyhow @ Jan 1 2012, 04:41 PM) sesungguh ceteknya pengetahuan kamu,... tidakkah kesemua haiwan dari contoh migrate ke tempat lain terbang beberapa hari?.... kadang-kadang beberapa minggu,... ya... betul semua haiwan dari contoh di atas,.. tidur bila terbang.... Saya pon boleh memandu di highway sambil terlelap selama 3-4 saat. Adakah itu bermakna saya tinggal/tidur di atas highway? This post has been edited by MsGaijin: Jan 1 2012, 06:06 PM |
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apa susah2...the less things muslims eat the more for others to eat...its a win2 situation wat...muslims get to follow their beliefs others have more to eat...ini gelabah lebih pasal halal mengalahkan muslim je...just using this point to vroom2...
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sure or not
which book say that god created animal for human to eat? quran also not directly say u can eat animal........ |
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