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post Dec 30 2011, 03:41 PM, updated 13y ago

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I got my Edifier S530D free from Edifier themselves because once I joined their 'write a review of the Edifier Esiena iF360' Trial Program

and..... here is my Edifier Esiena iF360 review~
it ends up only me and bro rxy joined sweat.gif

anyways... I don't really own an iPod therefore I chose this awesome Edifier S530D (my dream speaker since I saw Edifier) as my prize biggrin.gif

hey, it's cheaper than the iF360 anyways so I guess it shouldn't be a problem smile.gif

people will ask 'why didn't I chose the flagship model of 2.1 speakers S730D instead?
well I gotta say I love the S730D but due to it's heavy 10" speaker unable to provide quick response to bass, it doesn't suit my taste~ (oo... it rhymes~) laugh.gif

Here you go~ my Edifier S530D
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Packaging

comes in a pretty huge box
corrugated cardboard, pretty much average, you can't complain because these are cheap but good

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as you can see here, everything is protected with polystyrene foam to protect the prize inside biggrin.gif
good enough to survive a few knocks and such biggrin.gif

and~ some plastic lining to cover all shiny parts free from scratches just like a brand new smartphone

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there you go~
what you see here is what you get when you buy the S530D

Looks and quality and such
Nothing much to talk here though.
You get what you paid, the workmanship is awesome as you can actually feel that the paint is solid and the speaker cabinets are actually solidly heavy.
It is unusual for computer speakers to be as heavy as this but hey, the heavier the better! It's what speaker cabinets should be.
I've experienced crappy computer speakers made of thin MDF wood or plastic and they are indeed crappy. Once the bass kicks in, the Speaker Cabinets move by itself shocking.gif

Such a waste of energy.

For the Edifier S530D I don't think it could possibly move even if I try to push it (well the satellites does move when I push for sure but it requires more force though but the subwoofer is almost impossible)
The rubber feet are just awesome as it grips very well to any surface +1

The remote... yea~
Talk about the wired remote brings me to a few comments.
I'm happy on how the new batch have an even more solid feeling knob compared to the old batch version. You get the luxurious volume knob that rolls smoothly unlike the previous ones that felt cheap and broken.

However the plastic front isn't as resistant to scratches. Knowing that I barely touches the remote, eventually the remote receives a collection of messy scratches especially on the bottom part with that mute and input button.
Didn't touch... got scratched badly... mysterious eh?
I'm guessing that the scratches appears because of the dust accumulation. Oh well

It's fun to stare at the Blue LCD display though... I have no idea why but the blue mesmerize me XD

Wireless remote however... it's a plus to have such useful device with you but I find the wireless remote useless because it stays inside the dock untouched for long. In fact I've even removed the battery inside to extend it's life since I don't use it anyway~

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post Dec 30 2011, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(:+:JerRy:+: @ Dec 30 2011, 03:49 PM)
Have you heard of HiVi? I will give them a try smile.gif
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aww lol don't mess my reviews ==

yes I've heard of it but It's hard to order them here in Malaysia
do want one tho... but not sure when will I able to buy one
D1080MKII 08 and T200B caught my eye since the first time I saw it

Added on continue
anyways~ let me continue my review first XD

Setting up

yup... setting up is a headache sometimes due to the heavy subwoofer but once you got them right it's a blast to listen to~

But hey~ how does it sound? does it sound good?

oh yes it does sound good. you can't complain much because the S530D is somewhat the few only surviving BIG computer speakers.
I know the days where Logitech used to produce crazy sized computer speakers like the Z680, Z5300, Z2300(legend), Z5500(true legend) where people are able to have the impression of 'The Bigger The Better'

but since those computer speakers are discontinued, there's nothing much you can do other than going into this Edifier S530D
There's Corsair SP2500 left to battle with the mighty S530D

oh wait let's not talk about other brands here first, we will continue that later~


SQ First Impression
Well as everybody knows... Brand new speaker is like a new butterfly that just popped out of it's cocoon...
It's not going to sound great on it's first few runs but hey, The Edifier S530D sounds pretty awesome on the first few run~

Though I gotta say the subwoofer is lacking in power and the trebles is just painfully awful at first, the performance is awesome.

The mids~ oh the mids are just lovely~
fresh from beginning it provides the warmest mids I've ever owned in my collection (ignoring my dad's old hifi setup)
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After months of playing
Improvements are minor... it takes many months,many hours to get it to sound to it's extend. (on other words, it grows pretty slowly)
I've even had to force burn-in to get some part of the speaker well exercised for future use.
The subwoofer did 40Hz for 1 hour per day everyday for 6 weeks with gradually loud volume to ensure every part of the woofer suspension gets exercised
The satellite done with pink noise for 2 hours per day for 2 weeks to get everything going.
Then after that hassle I decided to give up and let it do self burning by playing casual music sessions since April till now

Now
Though it's been months playing with it and nothing changed... I've finally decided to do a review now haha XD

Performance wise:
I'd say it's the ultimate Computer Speakers that I've ever owned by far.
Suits almost ALL genres no problem
The clarity is awesome to me but one have to try it themselves to know the transparency of the sound produced.
Do note that the S530D is pretty sensitive with the source so pair it with a good(or decent) soundcard or it'll sound very bad. shakehead.gif

The trebles from that silk dome tweeter is indeed sounded silky and smooth.
It was like some plastic trash at the beginning but for now it's just smooth~

The mids remain warm and syrup smooth just how I like it since I received it, but with better response now biggrin.gif

The bass, though sometimes interfere with the mids, is great and strong enough to energize me

However... the Sub-bass part is a little disappointing. Maybe it's the size 8 inches subwoofer that cause the speaker diagram to respond slowly... couldn't do much
The bass from the subwoofer is a tad bit slow when it comes to pop,trance,dubstep, or any fast bass beating songs. As if it's slow by 0.25 seconds.
Bass from the satellites has kicked already and a minor lag slows down the woof of the subwoofer.
The problem here is minor and people don't usually notice it especially when you're listening to modern pop or some slow jazz,orchestra... or watching movies and playing games.

But for people like me who loves music like Metal,Dubstep,Trance,etc... you know there's a lag when you're listening to songs.

On many cases it just feels like the subwoofer isn't part of a family.
It felt like buying home theater and buying a different subwoofer to pair with it and realizing that it doesn't blend.
Done a sweep test from 20kHz down to 20Hz and well... it does sounded like it rolls smoothly with no gap but unfortunately you'll be able to feel it when you play music with it.

For example Emi Fujita - 200X
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from the album Camomile Plus

There is a couple of bass lines from that bass guitar where the note gets pretty high up and falls back down to bass...
Yea those lines if you know that song...

On normal cases the subwoofer will do the low end... slowly and smoothly the satellites will take over the high bass lines.
But by playing with the S530D, there's a gap where the bass guitar just disappears when the player plays that bass line rclxub.gif

Not sure if crossover being a problem or just my ears being fussy but I sure do wish the crossover to the satellites are tuned lower for some support.
Hey, if it is possible I do sometimes wish the satellites receives more better louder pumping bass as sometimes customer may want to use it as a 2.0 stereo bookshelf speaker just like how monitor speakers are able to play bass well without the help of a subwoofer smile.gif
It is especially great for midnight listening where you don't want your awesome subwoofer to annoy your neighbors.

Did some research and discovered that many bassheads complained that the subwoofer is very weak. Many of those people come from a history of them with a Logitech Z-2300 as their previous speaker unsure.gif
But hey~ The Edifier S530D is not meant to be blasting bloated bass, they are built for clarity without bass messing up the music.

But others said the Edifier S530D sounded dull and boring. Not crisp and the bass doesn't energize them.
Well I can't be sure about that due to how human preference and desire differs from one to another.
But one thing I'm sure is that I love how the S530D sound... just that minor bass lag bugged me a little

But overall I do support this speaker knowing that this got potential if I do some tweaks and such smile.gif
as we shall continue on my next post

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post Dec 30 2011, 03:51 PM

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If you follow my posts in LYN you should know that I've done a small modification to improve the subwoofer to suit my preference.

DO NOT EVEN TRY TO OPEN YOUR SUBWOOFER TO AVOID DAMAGE AND TO AVOID VOIDING YOUR WARRANTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IF THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH YOUR SPEAKER THEN JUST GO CLAIM YOUR WARRANTY!!!!!! DON'T BE SMART AND FIX YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE CAPACITORS INSIDE ARE POWERFUL ENOUGH TO KILL YOU AND BURN YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EDIFIER SERVICE IS DECENT AND WARRANTY DOES WORK FINE HERE WITH NO HEADACHES... THEY DON'T SCAM PEOPLE HERE!!!!
LET THEM DO THE DANGEROUS JOB SINCE THEY KNOW THEIR PRODUCTS BETTER THAN US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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as you can see I've opened my subwoofer and realized that it is empty and does not have any paddings or dampener.
so I wondered what will happen if I throw some padding into it and yea...

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Click Here To Check My Short Impressions And More Details!!!!!!

if you have read that thread you should know that it does make small improvements but still it is unable to improve anything especially that bass lag.

do suggest what can be done to my Edifier S530D to improve the subwoofer notworthy.gif thumbup.gif notworthy.gif

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post Dec 30 2011, 04:59 PM

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Conclusion...

didn't really wanted to conclude here but I'm tired and I ran out of things to write here so...

For RM800 price tag it's a pretty great deal for customers to own one. Done a few research and I'm guessing I'm the only one who complains about the subwoofer...
So don't take the subwoofer matter seriously okay? Listen it for yourself first before agreeing with my words wink.gif

I've done a few house parties and some blasting too and yet it doesn't disappoint me with it's awesome power and strength without sacrificing the clarity
the power of the subwoofer is able to rattle my cupboards and windows when I play it loud no problem
(the bass power is enough to make your lungs vibrate and strong enough to cause weak people like me wanted to vomit sometimes. Oh bass lover is going to be so HAPPY) rclxm9.gif

Oh I forgot about the digital section... well... don't bother about the digital connection. It sounded better via analogue connections from the RCA.
It felt like the Optical has a tiny bit digitalized trebles, the Coaxial is a tad better but via Analogue is still the best no matter what.

Hope you enjoyed reading my review... yea I know it's long and annoying but I just wanted to write what I wanted to express so... yea here you go biggrin.gif



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post Dec 31 2011, 03:54 AM

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Aww... I can't spend my precious time reading this. Anyway, it 'should' be a positive review right? tongue.gif

Wow... iF360 really cost a bomb... The one at sri computer half dead already yawn.gif

Anyway, now only I know there is once such erm... "activity" held by Edifier. Free S530D yooo. I would go for S730 too if I'm given the choice laugh.gif

Still can't imagine how if360 cost more or less the same as S730 rclxub.gif
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post Dec 31 2011, 09:46 AM

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A well written write up on this monster bro. In regards to your review on the subwoofer, I wouldn't say the bass is weak. More like blending it well with the satellite. That is what a good subwoofer should do instead of drowning the clarity of the sounds with its bass.
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post Dec 31 2011, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Dec 31 2011, 03:54 AM)
Aww... I can't spend my precious time reading this. Anyway, it 'should' be a positive review right?  tongue.gif

Wow... iF360 really cost a bomb... The one at sri computer half dead already  yawn.gif

Anyway, now only I know there is once such erm... "activity" held by Edifier. Free S530D yooo. I would go for S730 too if I'm given the choice laugh.gif

Still can't imagine how if360 cost more or less the same as S730 rclxub.gif
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Take your time to read... this thread won't disappear tongue.gif

the iF360 costs slightly cheaper than the S550 and slightly more expensive than the S730D XD

iF360 price around RM1199
do expect a lil more grand power out of this small device but... oh well~ read it in my review lol


Added on December 31, 2011, 1:11 pm
QUOTE(night @ Dec 31 2011, 09:46 AM)
A well written write up on this monster bro. In regards to your review on the subwoofer, I wouldn't say the bass is weak. More like blending it well with the satellite. That is what a good subwoofer should do instead of drowning the clarity of the sounds with its bass.
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Haha thanks smile.gif
I wouldn't say the bass is weak too... In fact I actually liked the bass amount there. It is by far the most bassy speakers in my collection

but if you said that it blends well with the satellite then I gotta say no because it felt like there's a gap in between where the subwoofer and satellites just won't hold hands.

frequency sweep will show smooth connection with love but when it comes to music they just won't work together vmad.gif
oh well, 8" subwoofer is indeed still heavy~
I guess I got too used to how well Headphones roll their smoothness and also exposed too much on 2.0 studio / monitor / i dunno / my dads' Sony SS-D201 Bookshelves + NAD302 amp combo

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Hey i came across ur thread when looking up speakers to buy, im torn between this,aego m,soundsticks 3 and the AL MX6021. It would be such great help if you could give me hints of this matter.

PS. prefer clear sounding, controlled bass, no need to be loud. battery dying, gtg.
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post Jan 1 2012, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(rafazafar @ Jan 1 2012, 07:08 PM)
Hey i came across ur thread when looking up speakers to buy, im torn between this,aego m,soundsticks 3 and the AL MX6021. It would be such great help if you could give me hints of this matter.

PS. prefer clear sounding, controlled bass, no need to be loud. battery dying, gtg.
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controlled bass... Aego M seems controlled biggrin.gif
MX6021 do have tight bass but I'm no fan of it's trebles though
Soundsticks III is awesome too...

oh where is Creative Gigaworks T3 and Corsair SP2500?
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Haha ur right bout those,two, btw awesome review! Really appreciate ur input.


Added on January 2, 2012, 8:42 amIm getting the S530D today smile.gif btw, did you add more dampeners(fish tank filter) ? hows the sub afterwards? and do you recommend me to get a center bar for midrange as well?

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post Jan 2 2012, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(rafazafar @ Jan 1 2012, 09:19 PM)
Im getting the S530D today smile.gif btw, did you add more dampeners(fish tank filter) ? hows the sub afterwards? and do you recommend me to get a center bar for midrange as well?
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The fish tank filter just remove those minor little ringing sound created by echoes inside the subwoofer.
It actually sounds great to many but I just don't like it.

Doing it or not does not much difference actually. In fact you have to add a LOT to actually feel the difference.
I add them because I hear the ringing echoes. Many did not do so because they didn't hear it, so it didn't bother them.
(oh man I hate my sensitive ears... they are too fussy) laugh.gif

anyway, only do it when the warranty expires if not opening it will void the warranty wink.gif

Center bar? for what?

are you going to use it for movies? cuz in my opinion having that center speaker for music sucks. it destroys the feel of stereo image
kinda explains why I like a decent 2.0 stereo setup instead of a 2.1 because 2.1 includes a MONO subwoofer. whistling.gif

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Ill give it a try first as i have no experiance with decent speakers only earphone/headphones. Ill be using it for movies and music and ya i get what u mean by the 2.0. Unless i get my own crossovers for pure midrange. And good soundbar. Anyway. Ill update and tell anything interesting i find with the speakers here. Tjanks smile.gif
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QUOTE(rafazafar @ Jan 2 2012, 01:32 PM)
Ill give it a try first as i have no experiance with decent speakers only earphone/headphones. Ill be using it for movies and music and ya i get  what u mean by the 2.0. Unless i get my own crossovers for pure midrange. And good soundbar. Anyway. Ill update and tell anything interesting i find with the speakers here. Tjanks smile.gif
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Tjanks? hmm... interesting
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POwer911,your wired controller got encounter needed to hold "MUTE" button for 2-3 second just MUTE?
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Same here. The unit i tested at he shop turned off if the mute button pressed for a long time. But mine just mutes lol. Ps. Havent red the manual. Love the sub, but i passed it thru an EQ and -10db around 77hz. Helps tame the bloat. Also setting lower bass but higher sub help make it sound bit faster. As for highs a 5db boost at 2.5k and 4k region gives it bit more transparency. Havent tried optical input and coax yet, can comment on that. Anyway, thanks power911, its a worthwhile buy. I compared it to c5 c3 and also the s730 and true enough the sub isnt as well controlled. But i guess can expect much around this price.. Ill update on how the sub pairs with other devices soon. Got my foxl . Keh keh.
Oh and ur spot on about the music,gaming,movie thing. The soundsticks and aego m were much better at reproducing music but the s530 isnt far off, with eq its barely noticibal. Maybe instrument seperation bit lacking.

Wow its getting long. Gtg bye..
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QUOTE(NecroPhilia @ Jan 2 2012, 07:31 PM)
POwer911,your wired controller got encounter needed to hold "MUTE" button for  2-3 second just MUTE?
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yup... have to hold for a couple of seconds. Didn't bother me but time is gold.
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Nice review, power911. thumbup.gif

Thank you for support! notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Edifier @ Jan 3 2012, 03:47 PM)
Nice review, power911. thumbup.gif

Thank you for support! notworthy.gif
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Is it really okay stuffing so much of foam? Does the sub has an external heatsink to dissipate the heat generated by the amplifier?

In my S2000, Edifier stuffs the foam inside, just infront of the port to tighten the bass. Stuffing so much just restrict the air movement and reduce (or in other words tighten up) the bass.
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jan 4 2012, 08:00 PM)
Is it really okay stuffing so much of foam? Does the sub has an external heatsink to dissipate the heat generated by the amplifier?

In my S2000, Edifier stuffs the foam inside, just infront of the port to tighten the bass. Stuffing so much just restrict the air movement and reduce (or in other words tighten up) the bass.
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The sub do come with an external heatsink bro.

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jan 4 2012, 08:00 PM)
Is it really okay stuffing so much of foam? Does the sub has an external heatsink to dissipate the heat generated by the amplifier?

In my S2000, Edifier stuffs the foam inside, just infront of the port to tighten the bass. Stuffing so much just restrict the air movement and reduce (or in other words tighten up) the bass.
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and that's why in my other thread I actually warned people to allow more air flow in your subwoofer. To dissipate heat.

I know that the S530D won't burn or melt my filter since it stays cool no matter how I blast it but it's better to be safe than sorry anyways. icon_rolleyes.gif



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Here are more details about the build quality of the satellites of S530D

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Yes the cover is removable like how many users like it

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You unscrew them with an allen key or some hex tip screwdriver.

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It goes bare

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Have to comment a little about their screws. Though it feels strong and sturdy, I don't like how it goes rusty in just one year untouched. By moisture this actually gets rusty.
PM-ed Edifier and they had worked on the quality of it

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Same goes to the Philips screws at the back

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Woofer disassembled

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Note: This fishtank filter was already inside since the first day I got them. It is pre-installed on every satellites so you don't have to fill it yourselves. wink.gif

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Image of that amazing crossover

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Side view of the woofer


Sorry because I can't get any pictures of the back of the tweeter. It was glued shut tightly without any better methods for me to disassemble it.

Oh well, enjoy the pics


Other comments would be the low volume output of Headphone Jack.
Man... the volume is pretty low that one have to turn the volume to ridiculous levels to get average sounding volume.

My easily driven headphone Alessandro MS-1i requires full blast Boost +6 to get into normal listening volume

This has got to be fixed

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The S730 require a sound card or another amp to produce more bass. As for me I'm using the SupremeFX X-Fi sound card. One thing i like the S730 is you can turn the volume to maximum (boost 6+) without a distortion!

(I am Edifier S730 user)

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wow the thanks for the tips bro my speaker more powerful than before the bass more tight and great sounding thumbup.gif
i luv so much my edifier now biggrin.gif wub.gif
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Good source is always important.

It's good that you know good source are a must.

but if you say

QUOTE(ezry91 @ Jan 7 2012, 03:32 PM)
The S730 require a sound card or another amp to produce more bass. As for me I'm using the SupremeFX X-Fi sound card. One thing i like the S730 is you can turn the volume to maximum (boost 6+) without a distortion!

(I am Edifier S730 user)
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another amp for speakers, then it's a HUGE NO because you might burn your S530D/S730D amplifier by double amping
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thanks for that.

im planning to swap my edifier s730 subwoofer to pioneer 10" subwoofer.

got any tips?
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QUOTE(ezry91 @ Jan 11 2012, 04:48 PM)
thanks for that.

im planning to swap my edifier s730 subwoofer to pioneer 10" subwoofer.

got any tips?
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swap speaker drivers? make sure the specifications and dimensions are correct tho smile.gif

like for example the Ω of the speaker must be equal or higher, that should do.

then tell us the results if there is an improvement or it just turns crappy XD
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QUOTE(power911 @ Jan 11 2012, 04:54 PM)
swap speaker drivers? make sure the specifications and dimensions are correct tho smile.gif

like for example the Ω of the speaker must be equal or higher, that should do.

then tell us the results if there is an improvement or it just turns crappy XD
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oh really? too bad that the all pioneer subwoofer got 2 and 4 ohm only.

plan fail
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QUOTE(ezry91 @ Jan 11 2012, 05:09 PM)
oh really? too bad that the all pioneer subwoofer got 2 and 4 ohm only.

plan fail
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well still you can play around...
The amp won't burn itself from that overload that easily XD
just put it back when you're done lol

that pioneer cannot wire in series to get 8Ω meh?
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finally saw what you look like...
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QUOTE(dlyz @ Jan 12 2012, 06:58 PM)
finally saw what you look like...
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QUOTE(ezry91 @ Jan 11 2012, 04:48 PM)
thanks for that.

im planning to swap my edifier s730 subwoofer to pioneer 10" subwoofer.

got any tips?
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Just some other extra details about the subwoofer...

If you are searching for hard hitting bass that does smacking on your chest for every beat~

The S530D fails to do so as it is quite gentle and not very aggressive punching type...

yea, kinda like a rephrase on my sentence about this subwoofer being slow
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QUOTE(power911 @ Jan 27 2012, 03:06 PM)
Just some other extra details about the subwoofer...

If you are searching for hard hitting bass that does smacking on your chest for every beat~

The S530D fails to do so as it is quite gentle and not very aggressive punching type...

yea, kinda like a rephrase on my sentence about this subwoofer being slow
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Have been using the S530D as my living room speakers for a month now. As what power911 has mentioned, this set of speakers are pretty particular on the source and equipment that is paired to it.

Before moving it to the living room, it was connected to my workstation PC directly using an XFi Titanium PCIE sound card. It sounded quite harsh IMHO even after burning in for 6 months, and I could not tweak it to my liking no matter how even by using the software's bass boost, crystaliser or EQ (maybe I am very bad at making adjustments sweat.gif )

Then I decided to try it out at the living room out of tantrum and frustration. To my surprise, it was pure ecstasy, night and day difference compared to Logitech's Z2300 that was hooked up to the same equipments. (Equipments: DVD Player, HTPC with SB Audigy -> Sony old school EQ -> Marantz amp's pre out). Music and movies sounded much clearer and natural by miles. Bass was pretty accurate, bouncy yet not boomy. Did a blind test with an audience that spends tens of thousands of ringgit on his audio equipments and he ended up extremely amazed on what this little 2.1 baby can do for it's size! The S530D's separation of tweeter and mid bass on the front speakers is clearly superior than any single full range 2" speakers that are equipped on most of the 2.1 speakers nowadays for example; Logitech's Z2300, Z623, Creative's T3, HK Soundstick III, etc.

To cut the long story short, the old Z2300 ended up as my workstation speakers and my living room is literally 'upgraded' to a higher, better, superb quality of the S530D. Thumbs up and kudos to S530D, you deserve the praise! thumbup.gif
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@edministrator

try putting your Pc soundcard everything to default and turn off all filters and virtual enhancers wink.gif
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QUOTE(power911 @ Feb 15 2012, 01:44 PM)
@edministrator

try putting your Pc soundcard everything to default and turn off all filters and virtual enhancers wink.gif
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done that, somehow just feels dull. i think it's the creative soundcard's signature issue, that's why most people prefers asus soundcards for music? wink.gif

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Found some of these acoustic dampeners in my junk speaker, thought of making good use of these

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lay them down correctly so I can roll it up

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looks messy but it's okay

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stuff them in and it fits snugly


While doing this does improve the bass response and tightens everything up, I am risking my subwoofer to death by a few minor factors like:
-Causing the woofer driver to struggle because it can't move as freely as it should be.
-May overheat the amp as there is less airflow
-May cause the voicecoil to unwind itself because it can't move freely (the voicecoil might try to break free by escaping from the glue and start rattling by itself)

Anyways, I have not fully tested it yet but I can say the bass volume has reduced and sounds much faster without sounding muddy due to midbass

Port noise has been incredibly reduced as well

my objective:
If I can't get it to sound deep like the logitechs, I try to get them to work together like a family

seriously, this subwoofer doesn't want to cooperate with the satellites...

conclusion... don't do this mod lol

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QUOTE(power911 @ May 3 2012, 12:27 PM)
user posted image
Found some of these acoustic dampeners in my junk speaker, thought of making good use of these

user posted image
lay them down correctly so I can roll it up

user posted image
looks messy but it's okay

user posted image
stuff them in and it fits snugly
While doing this does improve the bass response and tightens everything up, I am risking my subwoofer to death by a few minor factors like:
-Causing the woofer driver to struggle because it can't move as freely as it should be.
-May overheat the amp as there is less airflow
-May cause the voicecoil to unwind itself because it can't move freely (the voicecoil might try to break free by escaping from the glue and start rattling by itself)

Anyways, I have not fully tested it yet but I can say the bass volume has reduced and sounds much faster without sounding muddy due to midbass

Port noise has been incredibly reduced as well

my objective:
If I can't get it to sound deep like the logitechs, I try to get them to work together like a family

seriously, this subwoofer doesn't want to cooperate with the satellites...

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that could mainly the crossover issue and/or lack of proper/good mid bass which you cant really do much about it. of course, it could be different than my case since i am using a C3 and not S530D

Also, given my experience in subwoofer/audio/car speakers, stuffing your port not only steers you away further from your intended objectives, it will also almost definitely cause the problems you have mentioned yourself. so my personal advise is to remove the stuffing smile.gif

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bolding the bottom important part too

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if paired with original satellite, i will say subwoofer still ok for its job, imo actually is satellite pull down the overall performance, in term of mid bass/ soundstage/ treble, its subwoofer actually can be shake but require very loud to do so, and yet not enough deep, but problem arise with this situation, based on my case, around volume 32~34 is its maximum volume that satellite still under control, beyond this threshold, it start lost its dynamic, treble became harsh(too bright) and minor distort to my ear, but bass around 27~28 just start show its present until 4x still remain controllable, but still cant do well with fast bass type song (muddy), since its signature ~ tend to slow and not deep (probably just 50~55hz), i think initial design of it is try to maintain balance between gaming/movie and music to be all-rounder, but obviously cause it not an impressive product among its class (especially since sp2500 available, based on its comment in forum, but can sense it is a strong competitor, at least bass department performance better and deeper)


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haha congrats on the best free gift ever...4 me 2.1 is beastly enough already n so S730 is still my top choice now laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 3 2012, 04:40 PM)
that could mainly the crossover issue and/or lack of proper/good mid bass which you cant really do much about it. of course, it could be different than my case since i am using a C3 and not S530D

Also, given my experience in subwoofer/audio/car speakers, stuffing your port not only steers you away further from your intended objectives, it will also almost definitely cause the problems you have mentioned yourself. so my personal advise is to remove the stuffing smile.gif

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bolding the bottom important part too
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haha yea, that's what I thought so... just playing around... thx for the advice biggrin.gif

oh how I wish I could just buy some Elna caps to mess around with these


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QUOTE(skylinelover @ May 3 2012, 06:35 PM)
haha congrats on the best free gift ever...4 me 2.1 is beastly enough already n so S730 is still my top choice now laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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haha this stuff is old le... and yes I'm still happy bout it being free biggrin.gif

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Seal the speaker up will give you good response but sacrifices low frequency response.

Better you leave it original or stick the stuffing at the woofer magnet there, the ported enclosure are calculated according to the subwoofer.

Maybe you can try out replacing the interconnects first.
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QUOTE(Cosef @ May 3 2012, 09:23 PM)
Seal the speaker up will give you good response but sacrifices low frequency response.

Better you leave it original or stick the stuffing at the woofer magnet there, the ported enclosure are calculated according to the subwoofer.

Maybe you can try out replacing the interconnects first.
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sometimes I wonder... do they really calculate them?
the amount of port noise is huge in these~
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QUOTE(power911 @ May 3 2012, 09:15 PM)
haha yea, that's what I thought so... just playing around... thx for the advice biggrin.gif

oh how I wish I could just buy some Elna caps to mess around with these
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not sure if you've gotten my advise fully, but as far as i am concerned, caps would the last of your worries lol.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 3 2012, 09:55 PM)
not sure if you've gotten my advise fully, but as far as i am concerned, caps would the last of your worries lol.
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well at least messing with the capacitor value slightly would change the crossover characteristics tongue.gif
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QUOTE(power911 @ May 3 2012, 10:55 PM)
well at least messing with the capacitor value slightly would change the crossover characteristics tongue.gif
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i will be honest with you: you're gonna be wasting time and effort, and most importantly money depending on what kinda caps ur getting/modding lol.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 3 2012, 11:05 PM)
i will be honest with you: you're gonna be wasting time and effort, and most importantly money depending on what kinda caps ur getting/modding lol.
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point being: solve your problem, not hide it. tackle that first who knows you'll be gaining much more and wouldn't need to do something menial such as modding caps smile.gif

hell, if you fix it THEN mod caps, you're definitely gonna gain much better SQ, right?
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power911, have you tried the papertube extension for the port like you did with your old coby speakers? lol i recently did it to my megaworks 550 and it eliminates alot of boominess in the subwoofer. it doesnt make my subwoofer play lower than it's designed, but at least it's not extremely boomy now. or you can always try the papertube and straw method. for my smaller subwoofer, it manages to reduce more than 50% port noise for zero dollar.
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A ported sub shud not be sealed up. The sub might be damaged. Thats what seal subs are for.

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QUOTE(power911 @ May 3 2012, 09:34 PM)
sometimes I wonder... do they really calculate them?
the amount of port noise is huge in these~
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Yup they do, just didn't simply show out to public only.
The port noise is another case, that is the turbulence, but not related to the calculation.

That is why you can see high end speaker has special technology like flow port in B&W speakers. That port is not a joke, really can't hear the port noise unless you put your ear besides it and running at high volume.
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QUOTE(nismo91 @ May 4 2012, 01:28 PM)
power911, have you tried the papertube extension for the port like you did with your old coby speakers? lol i recently did it to my megaworks 550 and it eliminates alot of boominess in the subwoofer. it doesnt make my subwoofer play lower than it's designed, but at least it's not extremely boomy now. or you can always try the papertube and straw method. for my smaller subwoofer, it manages to reduce more than 50% port noise for zero dollar.
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well I did try the papertube mod with pringles can...
meh, nothing changed lol. moar port noise XD


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QUOTE(Cosef @ May 4 2012, 06:04 PM)
Yup they do, just didn't simply show out to public only.
The port noise is another case, that is the turbulence, but not related to the calculation.

That is why you can see high end speaker has special technology like flow port in B&W speakers. That port is not a joke, really can't hear the port noise unless you put your ear besides it and running at high volume.
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mm... true that.

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lol at the pringles can... but does it fit the S530 port perfectly? i thought the pringles can is larger. gotta hate the port noise, i would try anything to minimize those sshhh noise.
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QUOTE(nismo91 @ May 4 2012, 10:38 PM)
lol at the pringles can... but does it fit the S530 port perfectly? i thought the pringles can is larger. gotta hate the port noise, i would try anything to minimize those sshhh noise.
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Mind to try out car protectant on it?
I tried on mine and there are slight improvement.
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can someone describe to me what is port noise? I never experience before.
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it's a type of 'breathing' sound on the port opening. most evident when you turn off all the other speakers except subwoofer. as the air is travelling out from the port, the noise is produced.

some subwoofer only become noisy when hitting certain frequencies. good ported subwoofers (properly engineered) on the other hand, are unlikely to produce these kind of noise.
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does s530 require sound card?
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QUOTE(edios88 @ Oct 1 2012, 11:49 PM)
does s530 require sound card?
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everything requires a soundcard... you can't expect a graphic card to make sound wink.gif

if your soundcard supports digital out (optical or coaxial) then you need not to upgrade your soundcard

but if your soundcard sounds bad then you need to upgrade icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(power911 @ Oct 2 2012, 12:48 AM)
everything requires a soundcard... you can't expect a graphic card to make sound wink.gif

if your soundcard supports digital out (optical or coaxial) then you need not to upgrade your soundcard

but if your soundcard sounds bad then you need to upgrade icon_rolleyes.gif
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some speakers have internal DAC and/or amp and only require digital input into them (which a usb interface, spdif/coaxial etc can work, remember, it may not be from a pc)
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 2 2012, 02:02 AM)
some speakers have internal DAC and/or amp and only require digital input into them (which a usb interface, spdif/coaxial etc can work, remember, it may not be from a pc)
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judging from the mistake done in Logitech Z-Cinema, I don't think it worked out fine for USB interface.
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but then, there still got focal xs 2.1,b&w mm1, aktimate micro, bose c5 all come with int dac with usb connection, which show z cinema itself is a failure product
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QUOTE(eremitic @ Oct 2 2012, 09:35 AM)
but then, there still got focal xs 2.1,b&w mm1, aktimate micro, bose c5 all come with int dac with usb connection, which show z cinema itself is a failure product
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Hello power911,
I have gone through your review. I have this speakers on my wishlist. I love dubstep, trance. I am currently using Altec Lansing VS4121BLK and edifier DA5000 pro. I seriously dont like the bass of DA 5000 pro compared to the much cheaper VS4121blk. I dont feel it that thumpy. I dont have a chance to audition s530d before buying it( have to order it online only). All I need is bass that blows my window pans out tongue.gif . Would you suggest S530 D or any other good speakers in the similar price range?
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QUOTE(ArtIchoke @ Jan 8 2013, 07:12 PM)
Hello power911,
I have gone through your review. I have this speakers on my wishlist. I love dubstep, trance. I am currently using Altec Lansing VS4121BLK and edifier DA5000 pro. I seriously dont like the bass of DA 5000 pro compared to the much cheaper VS4121blk. I dont feel it that thumpy. I dont have a chance to audition s530d before buying it( have to order it online only). All I need is bass that blows my window pans out  tongue.gif . Would you suggest S530 D or any other good speakers in the similar price range?
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Seen this? As compared to the more expensive S730D
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=57165662
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QUOTE(ArtIchoke @ Jan 8 2013, 07:12 PM)
Hello power911,
I have gone through your review. I have this speakers on my wishlist. I love dubstep, trance. I am currently using Altec Lansing VS4121BLK and edifier DA5000 pro. I seriously dont like the bass of DA 5000 pro compared to the much cheaper VS4121blk. I dont feel it that thumpy. I dont have a chance to audition s530d before buying it( have to order it online only). All I need is bass that blows my window pans out  tongue.gif . Would you suggest S530 D or any other good speakers in the similar price range?
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The Edifiers are not designed to be thumpy in the first place
If you do not like the DA5000PRO that means chances of you not liking the S530D would be high too

I would suggest you to get some Logitechs like Z623 (or z2300 if you can still find one)
They sucks in midrange but they provide the violent bass you need.
Or if you can fork out a little more money, the S730D is a way to go


I am not sure about the Swans speakers but in terms of bass I am sure the swans will provide you luxurious bass and not hard hitting type


Either way I'd suggest you to get a better soundcard for your DA5000PRO and if clarity bass is not enough you should EQ it by bass boosting
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QUOTE(power911 @ Jan 8 2013, 09:13 PM)
The Edifiers are not designed to be thumpy in the first place
If you do not like the DA5000PRO that means chances of you not liking the S530D would be high too

I would suggest you to get some Logitechs like Z623 (or z2300 if you can still find one)
They sucks in midrange but they provide the violent bass you need.
Or if you can fork out a little more money, the S730D is a way to go
I am not sure about the Swans speakers but in terms of bass I am sure the swans will provide you luxurious bass and not hard hitting type
Either way I'd suggest you to get a better soundcard for your DA5000PRO and if clarity bass is not enough you should EQ it by bass boosting
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Thank you for your reply...
I went to the shop and luckily Z623 and one more model, T3 has been shown to me. I really liked Z623 (T3 is even more amazing but I am tight on budget). Logitech is the way to go as it is well established in our country unlike Edifier.
I am getting Z623 soon
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QUOTE(ArtIchoke @ Jan 8 2013, 11:32 PM)
Thank you for your reply...
I went to the shop and luckily Z623 and one more model, T3 has been shown to me. I really liked Z623 (T3 is even more amazing but I am tight on budget). Logitech is the way to go as it is well established in our country unlike Edifier.
I am getting Z623 soon
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T3 if you want a better wholesome package. logitech just never quite work well (at least for me anyways) when it comes to music sad.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 9 2013, 12:43 AM)
T3 if you want a better wholesome package. logitech just never quite work well (at least for me anyways) when it comes to music sad.gif
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So far only the Z2300 worked for me 'if' I change the satellites to my Sony bookshelves.

other than that most logitechs are noise.

downsides of being exposed with many high ends~ doh.gif
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How is the imaging for them? Would you describe them as (nearly) holographic?
How does live recordings perform?

Thanks a lot,
Very best
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QUOTE(penmarker @ Jan 9 2013, 08:09 PM)
How is the imaging for them? Would you describe them as (nearly) holographic?
How does live recordings perform?

Thanks a lot,
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holographic... umm... for S530D it's close to none in my opinion
live recordings on S530D is pretty decent. Not too far not too near depending on how your speaker is placed

but soundstage/holographic wise... quite in the face type


Z623 had a lot of soundstage... in fact it sounded like plastic haha
that's all I can say... plastic

 

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