by the way, he is online now, if he can't prove that he issn't CHEONG CHAN WAH, then he is!

There is no need to prove anything from now onwards, at least not to us but to the authorities.
Would suggest group police report to be put in 1st post.

Forumer you are complaining against: dicksonbell

Item being sold/bought: Apple iPhone 4s 16GB White/Black

Original thread link: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2118950

Date of transaction: Between 22 Nov 2011 - 13 December 2011

Details of the complaint :

Chronology of event
1. On 22 Nov 2011, forumer dicksonbell open a selling thread for preorder of Apple IPhone 4s set from US.At first the deal is for buyer to place RM200 deposit, and full payment made in COD date with the stock limited to 15 unit black and 15 unit white only.
2. On 28 Nov 2011, dicksonbell closed/lock the thread but justifying all the unit is fully booked.
The initial promise is for the item to be delivered through COD on 12th Dec 2011 @ Pelita Kota Damansara
Subsequently, he still collect deposit from others later than this date by reasoning he got others supplier who can provide him but required larger deposit than before.this is confirm by some of the buyer who make funds transfer transaction to him later than this date.
3. On 11 Dec 2011, still no news from him about the schedule date.Assuming the deal is still on, I send him an sms to his number 011 19098867.
Received reply from him saying that has problem with the stock and he will update details in the threads.
4. On 12 Dec 2011, he update to his thread saying that all the stock will delay in arriving, the date will have to resechedule to  22nd Dec 2011 on 3pm sharp. He offer for refunds for those who cannot wait.some of the buyer accept his offer while some choose to wait.
At this point of time the thread is still lock from other forumer to post anything.
5. On 14 Dec 2011, moderator open up the thread for allowing others to post again. dicksonbell promised for those choose for refunds will get back their money by next week.
6. On 16 Dec 2011, he closed the offer for refunds and saying waiting for stock to be arrive at the designated date,
7. On 19 Dec 2011, he update the thread confirm the stock will arrive  on 22nd (late evening) and cod o be held on 23nd Dec 2011 , this time location change to Kota Damansara.buyer start questioning his delay since it is the second time he postponed the date.
some of the guy who earlier choose for refunds complaining they have yet to receive their money.
8. On 21 Dec 2011,he update again saying that all the refunds will be paid after 23th Dec 2011  after he do a COD.According to him all the item is diverted to thailand and he is already there to collect the item and will back on 22nd Dec 2011night.Any sms/call by buyer is not replying by reasoning he is on roaming.Again he reiterate the COD will be on 23nd Dec 2011 .
9. On 22 Dec 2011,he postponed the cod to 24nd Dec 2011  at 7pm-10pm in Sunway Giza Old Town.At these point still no refunds been made.
10.On 23 Dec 2011,most of the forumer getting anxious with the promised date,again he reiterate the date is firm already.
11.On 24 Dec 2011 morning,he update to the forum saying he's taking a flight back to malaysia at 13:40 hrs (+7GMT) from Thailand airport back to LCCT with all the USA stock pack and check in luggage.This time he say the COD will be 8pm onwards.At 730pm, 30 minutes from the promised time he updates back saying he got stuck up in Thailand immigration,these time he promise a full refunds to all party/buyer but can can only do so from 27th Dec 2011 onwards.After discussion with all the buyer and considering the suspicious reason and with moderator consent, we decided to start a disputed thread against  dicksonbell until all goods/refunds is delivered as promised by him.

Additional Info about Forumer
Contact No :  011 19098867
Name of account holder : CHUA WUAN LING
Name of the bank :Maybank
Bank account no. :114785037198
List of Buyer waiting for undelivered goods/Refunds
1)haniez
Transfer Amount : RM 500.00
Transfer Date : 28/11/2011(Through Maybank2u)
Ordered Item  : 1 X IPhone 4s(White/US set)

2)Kelvinlee1987
Transfer Amount :RM 1000
Transfer Date: 23rd Nov (receipt is not with me, just my estimation)
Ordered Item :(Iphone 4s Black/White,US/SG set) Iphone 4s White US set X2

3)teraone-sam
Transferred Amount : RM1,000.00
Transferred Date : 08 December, 2011
Ordered Item : 1x SG set iPhone 4s, Black color 16GB, 12mths warranty by Singtel

4)slevinra
Transferred Amount : RM200
Transferred Date : 28th November 2011
Ordered Item : 1 16GB Black US set. Asked for refund immediately after the first update on the delay.

5)T-nes
Transferred Amount : RM2,000.00
Transferred Date : 13 December, 2011(bank record m still keeping)
Ordered Item :2 unit of ip4s 16gb blk and white(us set)

6)faidzul
Transferred Amount : RM2,100.00
Transferred Date : 22 December, 2011(receipt still in hand)
Ordered Item : iPhone 4s 16gb white(us set)

7)cyfer
Transferred Amount : RM200
Transferred Date : 23 November, 2011 12pm
Ordered Item : iPhone 4s 16gb white(us set)

8)coolman82
Transferred Amount : RM500
Transferred Date : ddmmyyyy
Ordered Item : iPhone 4s 16gb white(us set)

9)akuadam
Transferred Amount : RM400
Transferred Date  : 22/11/2011 about 5.35pm
Ordered Item : 1 x White US & 1 x Black US sets.

10).weewee.
Transfer Amount : RM 500.00
Transaction date: 25 Nov 2011 (via maybank2u)
Transaction time: 14:48:07
Ordered Item : 1 X iPhone 4s(White/US set)

11)MartinX
Transfer Amount : RM 200.00
Transaction date: Nov 23 2011 , about 2PM
Ordered Item : 1 X iPhone 4s(White/US set)

12)Rick.st.lim
Transfer Amount : RM 600.00
Transaction date: Nov 22 2011 , around 3PM
Ordered Item : 3 X iPhone 4s(Black/US set)

13)Sedtanz
Transfer Amount : RM 400
Transaction date : 27 Nov 2011 , 9.21PM
Ordered Item : ( 2 x Black )
Transfer Amount : RM500
Transaction date : 6 Dec 2011 , 1.07PM
Ordered Item 1 x White )

15)teckteck
Transfer Amount : RM 400.00
Transaction date: 23 Nov 2011
Transaction time: 04:21pm
Ordered Item : 2X iPhone 4s(White/US set)

16)haririzhafri
Transfer Amount : RM200
Transaction date: 22 Nov 2011
Transaction time: 02:37pm
Ordered Item : 1 iPhone 4s (White/US set)

17)laMi87
Transfer Amount : RM 400.00
Transaction date: 23 Nov 2011 (via Maybank2u)
Ordered Item : 2X iPhone 4s(Black/US set)

18)catv
Transfer Amount : RM 1,000.00
Transaction date: 29 Nov 2011 20:07 (via maybank2u)
Ordered Item : 2 X iPhone 4s(White/US set)

19)alwinc
Transfer Amount : RM 3,400.00
Transaction date: ddmmyyyy
Ordered Item : 5x iphone 4s - deposited rm1000m,2x iphone 4s 32gb - depoted rm2400

20)snoopy5
Transfer amount:RM500(via Alliance ebanking)
Transaction date: ddmmyyyy
Ordered Item : ??

21)lhongwuh
Transfer amount:RM4000
Transaction date: 22/11/2011(2k)
Transaction date: 30/11/2011(2k)
Ordered Item : 12x iphone 4s
Total Disputed Amount(As reported by now) : RM 20,000.00

huh... y the story change him to conman hero... we will get bak our deposit onot?

our smses and pm and the whole thread can be evidence already.

9pm bukit aman. @haniez please update on the first post and title and HIGHLIGHT it big big.

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Added on December 25, 2011, 12:34 pm
guys guys, we are on the same boat here, don't ever belief anything he says or going to say to you. we go straight to the police, it's the correct method to do.

if launch a police report izzit possible to get bak our deposit?? owh god....

So u guys confirmed tonight 9pm going to make police report?

if launch a police report izzit possible to get bak our deposit?? owh god....

So u guys confirmed tonight 9pm going to make police report?
Because I think with police report only after that we will be able to proceed further action eg banker, telco etc. right?

So u guys confirmed tonight 9pm going to make police report?
Because I think with police report only after that we will be able to proceed further action eg banker, telco etc. right?

I will refund on Tue. Just hope you all can give this final chance. I don't know how to prove I'm innocent since everyone can't trust and believe me... Do anyone need me a call from public phone to prove I'm not in Malaysia?

If Bukit Aman is the soloution then pls let me know who office to meet? I will go there Tue myself. By that time you all can know who I am?

Final words I just need to settle my prob with authorities here before can come back.

I will try my best to online and reply. But I really can't do too frequent due to limit wifi area.

Ty.

by the way, he is online now, if he can't prove that he issn't CHEONG CHAN WAH, then he is!

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Added on December 25, 2011, 12:27 pm

9pm ok, @haniez on too? lets nail him down!

What if he isn't? He will be more happy if he is not and keep silent there. Let u all goto point ur fingers on Conman Cheong Chan Wah!
Don't fall into trap if got spy mix into our group and twist our focus on the other Conman. Just my point of view, no hard feeling.

What if he isn't? He will be more happy if he is not and keep silent there. Let u all goto point ur fingers on Conman Cheong Chan Wah!
Don't fall into trap if got spy mix into our group and twist our focus on the other Conman. Just my point of view, no hard feeling.

our case is file against this person
Account Number: 114785037198
Account Holder Name: CHUA WUAN LING

and dicksonbell.

and we suspect that he is either that conman or working with it.