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> Conman: dicksonbell or Ch3ong Ch@n wah, New and old victim please can forward

Kelvinlee1987
post Dec 25 2011, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(dicksonbell @ Dec 25 2011, 08:06 AM)
I will do refund starting Tue onwards. I'm not KL now and I can't perform interbank and request tac. Relative and friend can't help especially comes to money issue.

Pls allow the time as I need refund more than 10 not a person alone.

I'm sorry again to dissapointed everyone again. Myself are more worst now.

Ty.
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again, no fixed date of the refund, i don't buy it.

this is not the reply i wanted, it looks more like a tactic to stall us for another two days. i suggest we make a police report TODAY itself, after two days i expect more excuses.

dicksonbell, i think you are not taking this seriously. you received more than 15k, maybe 20k, and yet no one receive any refund or goods, where is our 20k?


Kelvinlee1987
post Dec 25 2011, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(Ricky300 @ Dec 25 2011, 11:22 AM)
I wonder why you can't request TAC?

Even I'm at oversea....I still can received TAC whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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Dicksonbell, i don't buy that too, since you are on roaming, you definitely can receive TAC.

this is a lie again guys

This post has been edited by Kelvinlee1987: Dec 25 2011, 11:24 AM
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post Dec 25 2011, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(slevinra @ Dec 25 2011, 11:26 AM)
I think he said he's not on roaming on his sales thread.
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yes he is, and we exchanged SMS when he was in Thai on thursday. he clearly said he was on roaming.
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post Dec 25 2011, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(slevinra @ Dec 25 2011, 11:29 AM)
Oh, means even more lies then. Cause he said on his sales thread he's not on roaming. And he mentioned he had to use public phone to call out somemore.
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i still keep the sms we exchanged and all the promises he said to me.

i started making noise when i first heard that the stock delay and cant reach on the 22nd, he made hell lot of promises to keep me quiet for a few days, i'm not going to fall for it again, unless he can give me a satisfying reply.
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post Dec 25 2011, 11:41 AM

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guys, try calling his phone, you get straight into mailbox, i think that means he is in Malaysia now.
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post Dec 25 2011, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(T-nes @ Dec 25 2011, 11:43 AM)
yeah i tried... voicemail...
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voice mail means he is in Malaysia's telco coverage right?
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post Dec 25 2011, 11:51 AM

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more and more people are reporting they deposit money, which many of them is out of the first 30 list. this is a scam from the start. he collected as much cash as he could without bothering about the consequences ./


Added on December 25, 2011, 11:52 ammore and more people are reporting they deposit money, which many of them is out of the first 30 list. this is a scam from the start. he collected as much cash as he could without bothering about the consequences ./

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post Dec 25 2011, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(dicksonbell @ Dec 25 2011, 11:53 AM)
I need to transfer money from other bank to my Maybank. Its about 15k. Huge amoubt. I'm using Celcom prepaid. Now can't roam anymore due to credit and line.

I will refund on Tuesday noon.

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it's more than 15K and you know it.
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post Dec 25 2011, 11:58 AM

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later he will say what la, interbank transfer cannot transfer that much la, this la, that la. then we can't get the refund by noon.


Added on December 25, 2011, 12:00 pm
QUOTE(haniez @ Dec 25 2011, 11:58 AM)
already 16k 
alwinc and snoopy please provide me your transaction date and order unit
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he don't even keep track i think. his words are based on what info and action we have,


Added on December 25, 2011, 12:01 pm
QUOTE(Kelvinlee1987 @ Dec 25 2011, 11:58 AM)
later he will say what la, interbank transfer cannot transfer that much la, this la, that la. then we can't get the refund by noon.


Added on December 25, 2011, 12:00 pm

he don't even keep track i think. his words are based on what info and action we have,
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i didn't give you my money for 1 month then expect for refund. if you don't have the stock, means you took our money for personal use or to roll your business, i want an answer!

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post Dec 25 2011, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(slevinra @ Dec 25 2011, 12:02 PM)
Why do you need to transfer money from other bank to Maybank? I don't understand your logic. Since you have a few accounts then just transfer the money as I'm sure not all of us are using Maybank. And you don't have to transfer the money, go to the ATM and withdraw the money.
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this is confirm no logic. interbank transfer can do with any bank with online banking.


Added on December 25, 2011, 12:05 pm
QUOTE(dicksonbell @ Dec 25 2011, 11:53 AM)
I need to transfer money from other bank to my Maybank. Its about 15k. Huge amoubt. I'm using Celcom prepaid. Now can't roam anymore due to credit and line.

I will refund on Tuesday noon.

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you can't even proof that you are in thailand with the stocks, and you expect us to believe your lies! i've had enough!

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post Dec 25 2011, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(slevinra @ Dec 25 2011, 12:06 PM)
The thing about interbank transfer is it needs 1 day for clearance. Which in turn gives him more excuse to delay things.
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as for now is two working days since it's already afternoon.
Kelvinlee1987
post Dec 25 2011, 12:09 PM

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a work of a scam artist.

There are people who previously deal with you also face the same problem, besides those on the sales thread, there are also a few people that PM me about you. and how you deal with people and your attitude.

So this is not the first time.


Added on December 25, 2011, 12:11 pm
QUOTE(slevinra @ Dec 25 2011, 12:09 PM)
No, I think if it's done before 12pm you'll receive it on the day itself. If after 12pm then you'll receive it the next day. Plus Monday is a holiday, so it needs longer time for the bank to process.
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that is for own bank transfer, interbank needs 2 days clearance.

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post Dec 25 2011, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(lhongwuh @ Dec 25 2011, 12:12 PM)
I deposited RM4000.00 to the said account and that would make the total going up to 20k.
I believe there are many more ppl affected.

Let's make a group police report on Monday.
He is using his old trick here.
More info on him that i found out: He is Cheong Chan Wah

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/267131

I have personally met dicksonbell for many times and only found out he is the person in that link when some forumer bumped up the thread lately.
There is no need for any more wait. Make a police report and if he actually returns our money(unlikely), make a phone call to the police in-charge and u may cancel your report anytime,
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so is confirm he is a con artist! how the FXXX did he get through all of this unnoticed!


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post Dec 25 2011, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(lhongwuh @ Dec 25 2011, 12:17 PM)
12sets all together

2k on 22/11/2011
2k on 30/11/2011
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group report police TODAY! who's on!

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post Dec 25 2011, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(StratOS @ Dec 25 2011, 12:18 PM)
Pls read what lhongwuh has just posted. IF its Cheong Chan Wah doing all this, kiss your money bye bye..~  shakehead.gif

@lhongwuh, you sure its him right?
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@rsrie met him before, he can confirm the CONMAN'S FACE!
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post Dec 25 2011, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(StratOS @ Dec 25 2011, 12:21 PM)
Have to make sure no keyboard warrior here, the more the better.. Try get a time where most people are free. Today maybe people busy la, public holidays. thumbup.gif
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i'm not one. Not my first time i make police report, but definately first time being CONNED.
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post Dec 25 2011, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(lhongwuh @ Dec 25 2011, 12:21 PM)
Yes. I have met him numerous time, 200% sure.
I've notified goldfries and Apis before this when i found out he is the person in the said photo.

This guy travels a lot in Kepong-Gombak area and usually drives a Naza Citra.
He changes phone very often and is definitely not poor.
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bro, lets make a police report together. where are you located.
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post Dec 25 2011, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(lhongwuh @ Dec 25 2011, 12:24 PM)
I am in. Klang Valley i suggest we go to Bukit Aman.
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bukit aman tonight 8pm?
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post Dec 25 2011, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(Kelvinlee1987 @ Dec 25 2011, 12:25 PM)
bukit aman tonight 8pm?
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by the way, he is online now, if he can't prove that he issn't CHEONG CHAN WAH, then he is!


Added on December 25, 2011, 12:27 pm
QUOTE(lhongwuh @ Dec 25 2011, 12:26 PM)
Make it 9pm better. I suppose some will need to do their prayers/ have their dinner 1st before going.
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9pm ok, @haniez on too? lets nail him down!

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post Dec 25 2011, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(lhongwuh @ Dec 25 2011, 12:28 PM)
There is no need to prove anything from now onwards, at least not to us but to the authorities.
Would suggest group police report to be put in 1st post.
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our smses and pm and the whole thread can be evidence already.

9pm bukit aman. @haniez please update on the first post and title and HIGHLIGHT it big big.


Added on December 25, 2011, 12:34 pm
QUOTE(haniez @ Dec 25 2011, 01:26 AM)
Forumer you are complaining against: dicksonbell

Item being sold/bought: Apple iPhone 4s 16GB White/Black

Original thread link: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2118950

Date of transaction: Between 22 Nov 2011 - 13 December 2011

Details of the complaint :

Chronology of event
1. On 22 Nov 2011, forumer dicksonbell open a selling thread for preorder of Apple IPhone 4s set from US.At first the deal is for buyer to place RM200 deposit, and full payment made in COD date with the stock limited to 15 unit black and 15 unit white only.
2. On 28 Nov 2011, dicksonbell closed/lock the thread but justifying all the unit is fully booked.
The initial promise is for the item to be delivered through COD on 12th Dec 2011 @ Pelita Kota Damansara
Subsequently, he still collect deposit from others later than this date by reasoning he got others supplier who can provide him but required larger deposit than before.this is confirm by some of the buyer who make funds transfer transaction to him later than this date.
3. On 11 Dec 2011, still no news from him about the schedule date.Assuming the deal is still on, I send him an sms to his number 011 19098867.
Received reply from him saying that has problem with the stock and he will update details in the threads.
4. On 12 Dec 2011, he update to his thread saying that all the stock will delay in arriving, the date will have to resechedule to  22nd Dec 2011 on 3pm sharp. He offer for refunds for those who cannot wait.some of the buyer accept his offer while some choose to wait.
At this point of time the thread is still lock from other forumer to post anything.
5. On 14 Dec 2011, moderator open up the thread for allowing others to post again. dicksonbell promised for those choose for refunds will get back their money by next week.
6. On 16 Dec 2011, he closed the offer for refunds and saying waiting for stock to be arrive at the designated date,
7. On 19 Dec 2011, he update the thread confirm the stock will arrive  on 22nd (late evening) and cod o be held on 23nd Dec 2011 , this time location change to Kota Damansara.buyer start questioning his delay since it is the second time he postponed the date.
some of the guy who earlier choose for refunds complaining they have yet to receive their money.
8. On 21 Dec 2011,he update again saying that all the refunds will be paid after 23th Dec 2011  after he do a COD.According to him all the item is diverted to thailand and he is already there to collect the item and will back on 22nd Dec 2011night.Any sms/call by buyer is not replying by reasoning he is on roaming.Again he reiterate the COD will be on 23nd Dec 2011 .
9. On 22 Dec 2011,he postponed the cod to 24nd Dec 2011  at 7pm-10pm in Sunway Giza Old Town.At these point still no refunds been made.
10.On 23 Dec 2011,most of the forumer getting anxious with the promised date,again he reiterate the date is firm already.
11.On 24 Dec 2011 morning,he update to the forum saying he's taking a flight back to malaysia at 13:40 hrs (+7GMT) from Thailand airport back to LCCT with all the USA stock pack and check in luggage.This time he say the COD will be 8pm onwards.At 730pm, 30 minutes from the promised time he updates back saying he got stuck up in Thailand immigration,these time he promise a full refunds to all party/buyer but can can only do so from 27th Dec 2011 onwards.After discussion with all the buyer and considering the suspicious reason and with moderator consent, we decided to start a disputed thread against  dicksonbell until all goods/refunds is delivered as promised by him.

Additional Info about Forumer
Contact No :  011 19098867
Name of account holder : CHUA WUAN LING
Name of the bank :Maybank
Bank account no. :114785037198
List of Buyer waiting for undelivered goods/Refunds
1)haniez
Transfer Amount : RM 500.00
Transfer Date : 28/11/2011(Through Maybank2u)
Ordered Item  : 1 X IPhone 4s(White/US set)

2)Kelvinlee1987
Transfer Amount :RM 1000
Transfer Date: 23rd Nov (receipt is not with me, just my estimation)
Ordered Item :(Iphone 4s Black/White,US/SG set) Iphone 4s White US set X2

3)teraone-sam
Transferred Amount : RM1,000.00
Transferred Date : 08 December, 2011
Ordered Item : 1x SG set iPhone 4s, Black color 16GB, 12mths warranty by Singtel

4)slevinra
Transferred Amount : RM200
Transferred Date : 28th November 2011
Ordered Item : 1 16GB Black US set. Asked for refund immediately after the first update on the delay.

5)T-nes
Transferred Amount : RM2,000.00
Transferred Date : 13 December, 2011(bank record m still keeping)
Ordered Item :2 unit of ip4s 16gb blk and white(us set)

6)faidzul
Transferred Amount : RM2,100.00
Transferred Date : 22 December, 2011(receipt still in hand)
Ordered Item : iPhone 4s 16gb white(us set)

7)cyfer
Transferred Amount : RM200
Transferred Date : 23 November, 2011 12pm
Ordered Item : iPhone 4s 16gb white(us set)

8)coolman82
Transferred Amount : RM500
Transferred Date : ddmmyyyy
Ordered Item : iPhone 4s 16gb white(us set)

9)akuadam
Transferred Amount : RM400
Transferred Date  : 22/11/2011 about 5.35pm
Ordered Item : 1 x White US & 1 x Black US sets.

10).weewee.
Transfer Amount : RM 500.00
Transaction date: 25 Nov 2011 (via maybank2u)
Transaction time: 14:48:07
Ordered Item : 1 X iPhone 4s(White/US set)

11)MartinX
Transfer Amount : RM 200.00
Transaction date: Nov 23 2011 , about 2PM
Ordered Item : 1 X iPhone 4s(White/US set)

12)Rick.st.lim
Transfer Amount : RM 600.00
Transaction date: Nov 22 2011 , around 3PM
Ordered Item : 3 X iPhone 4s(Black/US set)

13)Sedtanz
Transfer Amount : RM 400
Transaction date : 27 Nov 2011 , 9.21PM
Ordered Item : ( 2 x Black )
Transfer Amount : RM500
Transaction date : 6 Dec 2011 , 1.07PM
Ordered Item sad.gif 1 x White )

15)teckteck
Transfer Amount : RM 400.00
Transaction date: 23 Nov 2011
Transaction time: 04:21pm
Ordered Item : 2X iPhone 4s(White/US set)

16)haririzhafri
Transfer Amount : RM200
Transaction date: 22 Nov 2011
Transaction time: 02:37pm
Ordered Item : 1 iPhone 4s (White/US set)

17)laMi87
Transfer Amount : RM 400.00
Transaction date: 23 Nov 2011 (via Maybank2u)
Ordered Item : 2X iPhone 4s(Black/US set)

18)catv
Transfer Amount : RM 1,000.00
Transaction date: 29 Nov 2011 20:07 (via maybank2u)
Ordered Item : 2 X iPhone 4s(White/US set)

19)alwinc
Transfer Amount : RM 3,400.00
Transaction date: ddmmyyyy
Ordered Item : 5x iphone 4s - deposited rm1000m,2x iphone 4s 32gb - depoted rm2400

20)snoopy5
Transfer amount:RM500(via Alliance ebanking)
Transaction date: ddmmyyyy
Ordered Item : ??

21)lhongwuh
Transfer amount:RM4000
Transaction date: 22/11/2011(2k)
Transaction date: 30/11/2011(2k)
Ordered Item : 12x iphone 4s
Total Disputed Amount(As reported by now) : RM 20,000.00
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guys guys, we are on the same boat here, don't ever belief anything he says or going to say to you. we go straight to the police, it's the correct method to do.

This post has been edited by Kelvinlee1987: Dec 25 2011, 12:34 PM

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