Latest Update(19/01/2012):
after fooling around with everyone almost 1 month, he admit he's liar and a cheater.
true conman.
Additional information about him:Ch3ong Ch@n wah
Also this Alex Cheong
his facebook: [url=http://www.facebook.com/alexis.zhang]http://www.facebook.com/alexis.zhang



Latest Update(30/12/2011):
Refunds made in half amount to waiting victims.Case is not yet closed, another episode for another year.

Update(27/12/2011):

After all the pressure against him, dicksonbell refunds to 9 people.
but there is still 13 people remaining and about 19k++ pending to be refunded.he request until friday.
since he is willing to pay, our target now is to make sure all buyer get their money back.




Update(25/12/2011):
We decided to made a group police report against him on 25/12/2011 at 9pm in Bukit Aman.
Those staying nearby and available can join us.
So far confirm is:
lhongwuh
Kelvinlee1987
haniez


Forumer you are complaining against: dicksonbell

Item being sold/bought: Apple iPhone 4s 16GB White/Black

Original thread link: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2118950

Date of transaction: Between 22 Nov 2011 - 13 December 2011


Details of the complaint :

Chronology of event
1. On 22 Nov 2011, forumer dicksonbell open a selling thread for preorder of Apple IPhone 4s set from US.At first the deal is for buyer to place RM200 deposit, and full payment made in COD date with the stock limited to 15 unit black and 15 unit white only.
2. On 28 Nov 2011, dicksonbell closed/lock the thread but justifying all the unit is fully booked.
The initial promise is for the item to be delivered through COD on 12th Dec 2011 @ Pelita Kota Damansara
Subsequently, he still collect deposit from others later than this date by reasoning he got others supplier who can provide him but required larger deposit than before.this is confirm by some of the buyer who make funds transfer transaction to him later than this date.
3. On 11 Dec 2011, still no news from him about the schedule date.Assuming the deal is still on, I send him an sms to his number 11 19098867.
Received reply from him saying that has problem with the stock and he will update details in the threads.
4. On 12 Dec 2011, he update to his thread saying that all the stock will delay in arriving, the date will have to resechedule to 22nd Dec 2011 on 3pm sharp. He offer for refunds for those who cannot wait.some of the buyer accept his offer while some choose to wait.
At this point of time the thread is still lock from other forumer to post anything.
5. On 14 Dec 2011, moderator open up the thread for allowing others to post again. dicksonbell promised for those choose for refunds will get back their money by next week.
6. On 16 Dec 2011, he closed the offer for refunds and saying waiting for stock to be arrive at the designated date,
7. On 19 Dec 2011, he update the thread confirm the stock will arrive on 22nd (late evening) and cod o be held on 23nd Dec 2011 , this time location change to Kota Damansara.buyer start questioning his delay since it is the second time he postponed the date.
some of the guy who earlier choose for refunds complaining they have yet to receive their money.
8. On 21 Dec 2011,he update again saying that all the refunds will be paid after 23th Dec 2011 after he do a COD.According to him all the item is diverted to thailand and he is already there to collect the item and will back on 22nd Dec 2011night.Any sms/call by buyer is not replying by reasoning he is on roaming.Again he reiterate the COD will be on 23nd Dec 2011 .
9. On 22 Dec 2011,he postponed the cod to 24nd Dec 2011 at 7pm-10pm in Sunway Giza Old Town.At these point still no refunds been made.
10.On 23 Dec 2011,most of the forumer getting anxious with the promised date,again he reiterate the date is firm already.
11.On 24 Dec 2011 morning,he update to the forum saying he's taking a flight back to malaysia at 13:40 hrs (+7GMT) from Thailand airport back to LCCT with all the USA stock pack and check in luggage.This time he say the COD will be 8pm onwards.At 730pm, 30 minutes from the promised time he updates back saying he got stuck up in Thailand immigration,these time he promise a full refunds to all party/buyer but can can only do so from 27th Dec 2011 onwards.After discussion with all the buyer and considering the suspicious reason and with moderator consent, we decided to start a disputed thread against dicksonbell until all goods/refunds is delivered as promised by him.

Additional Info about Forumer
Contact No : 011 19098867
Name of account holder : CHUA WUAN LING
Name of the bank :Maybank
Bank account no. :114785037198


List of Buyer waiting for undelivered goods/Refunds
1)haniez
Transfer Amount : RM 500.00
Transfer Date : 28/11/2011(Through Maybank2u)
Ordered Item : 1 X IPhone 4s(White/US set)
Refunded: RM 500.00(on 27/12/2011 through cash deposit)


2)Kelvinlee1987
Transfer Amount :RM 1000
Transfer Date: 23rd Nov (receipt is not with me, just my estimation)
Ordered Item :(Iphone 4s Black/White,US/SG set) Iphone 4s White US set X2
Refunded: RM 500.00(on 30/12/2011 through cash deposit)

3)teraone-sam
Transferred Amount : RM1,000.00
Transferred Date : 08 December, 2011
Ordered Item : 1x SG set iPhone 4s, Black color 16GB, 12mths warranty by Singtel
Refunded: RM 500.00(on 30/12/2011 through cash deposit)

4)slevinra
Transferred Amount : RM200
Transferred Date : 28th November 2011
Ordered Item : 1 16GB Black US set. Asked for refund immediately after the first update on the delay.
Refunded: RM 200.00(on 27/12/2011 through cash deposit)

5)T-nes
Transferred Amount : RM2,000.00
Transferred Date : 13 December, 2011(bank record m still keeping)
Ordered Item :2 unit of ip4s 16gb blk and white(us set)
Refunded: RM 1000.00(on 30/12/2011 through cash deposit)

6)faidzul
Transferred Amount : RM2,100.00
Transferred Date : 22 December, 2011(receipt still in hand)
Ordered Item : iPhone 4s 16gb white(us set)
Refunded: RM 1000.00(on 30/12/2011 through cash deposit)

7)cyfer
Transferred Amount : RM200
Transferred Date : 23 November, 2011 12pm
Ordered Item : iPhone 4s 16gb white(us set)
Refunded: RM 200.00(on 27/12/2011 through cash deposit)

8)coolman82
Transferred Amount : RM500
Transferred Date : ddmmyyyy
Ordered Item : iPhone 4s 16gb white(us set)
Refunded: RM 500.00(on 27/12/2011 through cash deposit)

9)akuadam
Transferred Amount : RM400
Transferred Date : 22/11/2011 about 5.35pm
Ordered Item : 1 x White US ,1 x Black US sets.
Refunded: RM 200.00(on 30/12/2011 through cash deposit)

10).weewee.
Transfer Amount : RM 500.00
Transaction date: 25 Nov 2011 (via maybank2u)
Transaction time: 14:48:07
Ordered Item : 1 X iPhone 4s(White/US set)
Refunded: RM 500.00(on 27/12/2011 through cash deposit)

11)MartinX
Transfer Amount : RM 200.00
Transaction date: Nov 23 2011 , about 2PM
Ordered Item : 1 X iPhone 4s(White/US set)
Refunded: RM 200.00(on 28/12/2011 through cash deposit)

12)Rick.st.lim
Transfer Amount : RM 600.00
Transaction date: Nov 22 2011 , around 3PM
Ordered Item : 3 X iPhone 4s(Black/US set)
Refunded: RM 600.00(on 27/12/2011 through cash deposit)

13)Sedtanz
Transfer Amount : RM 400
Transaction date : 27 Nov 2011 , 9.21PM
Ordered Item : ( 2 x Black )
Transfer Amount : RM500
Transaction date : 6 Dec 2011 , 1.07PM
Ordered Item 1 x White )
Refunded: RM 500.00(on 27/12/2011 through cash deposit)
Refunded: RM 200.00(on 30/12/2011 through cash deposit)
Refunded: RM 200.00(on 01/01/2012 through cash deposit)

15)teckteck
Transfer Amount : RM 400.00
Transaction date: 23 Nov 2011
Transaction time: 04:21pm
Ordered Item : 2X iPhone 4s(White/US set)
Refunded: RM 200.00(on 30/12/2011 through cash deposit)

16)haririzhafri
Transfer Amount : RM200
Transaction date: 22 Nov 2011
Transaction time: 02:37pm
Ordered Item : 1 iPhone 4s (White/US set)
Refunded: RM 200.00(on 28/12/2011 through cash deposit)

17)laMi87
Transfer Amount : RM 400.00
Transaction date: 23 Nov 2011 (via Maybank2u)
Ordered Item : 2X iPhone 4s(Black/US set)
Refunded: RM 400.00(on 27/12/2011 through cash deposit)

18)catv
Transfer Amount : RM 1,000.00
Transaction date: 29 Nov 2011 20:07 (via maybank2u)
Ordered Item : 2 X iPhone 4s(White/US set)
Refunded: RM 400.00(on 01/01/2012 through cash deposit)

19)alwinc
Transfer Amount : RM 3,400.00
Transaction date: ddmmyyyy
Ordered Item : 5x iphone 4s - deposited rm1000m,2x iphone 4s 32gb - depoted rm2400
Refunded: RM 1600.00(on 30/12/2011 through cash deposit)

20)snoopy5
Transfer amount:RM500(via Alliance ebanking)
Transaction date: 27 Nov 2011
Ordered Item : ??
Refunded: RM 200.00(on 04/01/2012 through cash deposit)

21)lhongwuh
Transfer amount:RM4000
Transaction date: 22/11/2011(2k)
Transaction date: 30/11/2011(2k)
Ordered Item : 12x iphone 4s
Refunded: RM 2000.00(on 30/12/2011 through cash deposit)

22)kaizen57
Transfer amount:RM200
Transaction date: 23/11/2011
Ordered Item : 3x iphone 4s black US Set
Refunded: RM 200.00(on 30/12/2011 through cash deposit)

23)nubJeff
Transfer amount:RM400
Transaction date: 22/11/2011
Ordered Item : 2x iphone 4s
Refunded: RM 400.00(on 27/12/2011 through cash deposit)

24)unicornmfk
Transfer amount : RM2499
Transaction date : 28 Nov 2011 23:13:59(RM200)
Transaction date : 14 Dec 2011 13:56:22(RM2,299)
Ordered Item : 1 x iPhone 4s SG set 32gb white
Refunded: RM 1,150.00(on 30/12/2011 through cash deposit)

25)ksl33
Transfer amount : RM2099
Transaction date : 23 November 2011 18:04:49 ( RM1000 -Deposit )
Transaction date : 24 December 2011 09:32:02 ( RM1099 - Remaining Balance)
Ordered Item :1 x iPhone 4s US set 16gb white (US Set)
Refunded: RM 1000.00(on 30/12/2011 through cash deposit)

26)CKTOM
Transfer amount : RM450
Transaction date : 02 December 2011
Ordered Item :1 x iPhone 4s US set 16gb white (US Set)
Refunded: RM 200.00(on 30/12/2011 through cash deposit)

Total Disputed Amount(As reported by now) : RM 25,648.00
Total Refunded Amount(As confirmed by now) : RM 14,750.00



This post has been edited by haniez: Oct 31 2012, 10:40 PM

i think i have almost compiled all the name as given in the dicksonbell thread.
do let me know if I have any name missing from the list.
also can notify me if you have additional info or information need to be amend.
for the time being, until all the deposit is secured/get refunded, i will keep these thread alive.

at last an apology words from you.i guess before this thread is opened, very hard for u to admit your wrong doing to us.
if you read my chronology events you have schedule the date for fourth time(12->22->23->24) and now u want a chance for the fifth time.
what is your guarantee that this time u will delivered, can u commit to us than 27 is final date and no more custom/immigration drama
some of the forumer has decided to file police report if they still havent received the refunds by 12pm today.

what say u guys. one final chance for him.since he's has reply us, don't think he is a scammer or either will run away.
after all we just want our money/goods back.
as for our wasted time/effort/hope we just accept it as a bad decision at our end to trade with him on the first place

those who doesnt provide me the transaction date, please do so it is easy for me to compile in standard format.
the amount now is staggering at RM15500, while the total number of iphone 4s white is already exceeds 15 unit,

yeah, now thinks back he have yet to give us assurance that he will refunds on specific date nor how he going to do so .
i guess, we should move to our next option which is making a police report.
any idea on how the process or what is the information that is needed.
bankers can provide us extra information about the account holder?

already 16k


alwinc and snoopy please provide me your transaction date and order unit

what is your assurance that you will do so so on that particular date?
by now at least you should screen shot your maybank2u balance or anything to show us you have a capability to do so.

yes for normal IBG it will required 1 day for clearance and verification(accont name/IC etc),
but now we have quick pay transfer which will transfer on the spot since no verification done

useful info there mate.mine to provide me your details transaction for compiles purpose.

i am with u.anyone else stay in klang valley can join us.
btw, i am not using smartphone, and since most of the information is in the internet, are using one

bad ending, considering his action so far and once become a police case the probability for us to get back our money is almost none already
but at least others wont get cheated and we have an open case against him

btw anyone who want to join us go make police report today can notify me, so that I can update in page#1.

i agreed with kelvin

yeah, just like lhongwuh said, it is important for us to made police report first today as initial step for our next action.once we have a report number, those who cannot make it by today, can use it as reference number later.

PS: these past few day i think, my post counted have surpassed all my total post counted from 2007-2011 in LYN.
thanks to dicksonbell

thanks for the note apis.since u have experience on how to handle all this thing, any suggestion or advice on what additional information that we need to provide the police so that we have a strong case again him and not easy for him to run away.


on side note, thanks teraone-sam.

we also never thought it will ended like this. we expect to received the goods on 12 DEC 2011 as promised.
now it become everyone problem

so guys who else are joining tonight?
i gotta make my move at 7pm and wouldnt be able to online anymore after that as i didnt use smartphone.

This post has been edited by haniez: Dec 25 2011, 06:25 PM

me, lhongwuh and Kelvinlee1987 just return from bukit aman.
individual report made against CHUA WUAN LING@CHEONG CHAN WAH.
we will update details later.too tired now

see the number of people and total deposit amount, it keeps increasing,some more there are US set lah, SG set and etc.
i dunt think dicksonbell keep track all these order.
we can concludes that he is either conman or a cunning man trying to get interest free scheme loan for his business capital.
not to dissapoint u but chances for us getting back our money is very thin now.
what u all can do is to gather any evidence of your details transaction to him and made a police reports at your nearby police station.
hope u all can take individual effort to do so.

he have no time to do so. probably still reading his thailand newspaper

again no definite time. just another bait from u to stall some time. i wont buy it this time and i hope others too.
"Actions speak louder than words."
You have yet to shown us any effort or action at your end to prove to us you are capable to pay back all the money.
like Kelvin said if u really meant it, by this time u should have ask for the buyer account number /transaction number etc.
as I already compiles the name/amount, if u are truth with your promise, i am willing to help u compiles the account number as well.
but your trade history as been exposed by some of your previous buyer prove that it is not your first time, and i bet wouldn't be your last time either broking a promises.

guys, as told earlier, for recording purpose please do your own individual report first.
tuesday during office hour, we will do it a group report to Jabatan Siasatan Jenayah Komersil,
that is the proper department to handle all this case.

remember how many many time he provide us promises like this.
dun let him decide what action you should take.the consequence is relying on your next action.

refunds or not, it is his responsibility since its our money not his to begin with.
also his responsibility to compensate us for all the time/effort and trouble his put us through.
but, even the former also not sure, we can forget about the latter.

do let me know once u guys received refunded amount.
we will update it in page#1 as well to ensure all buyer get back their money.

This post has been edited by haniez: Dec 26 2011, 01:56 PM