ohh... i heard latest Sygic no longer can do that... may be u can edit that file instead...

wow, can use ext sd automatically ka? may be i ll upgrade later

Need more info to help you. Are both of your PC and phone connect to the same Wifi?

Second, if you are using IE, you must type the "http://" as well. This is because IE is stupid if you try to connect to non-http port.

The "Move to SD" actually move your app to External SD Card. You cannot see it on your External SD Card because they are encrypted in /.android folder. Look here if you want more info and test for yourself:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2125489/+1640#entry47394187

You also can set it so that all new App will be installed to external sd card by default, but you must have root:

Download Terminal Emulator from Market, execute this:



*Somehow, a few people report that it didn't work, although it work fine with my SGW*

Bro, you have "GT Racing: Motor Academy Free+" installed? If your wifi on after boot, may wanna try remove the game and see?

Ya, "su" will make you execute the command as "root".

In Froyo, you don't need "su". But starting with Gingerbread, to execute this command you need "root" privilege. That's why some people report that it no longer working after Gingerbread... it will work if you can run it as "root".

I tested yesterday, without "su", you will get "Access denied".

PS: if you have not rooted your phone, executing "su" will not get you root privilege. You can tell if you get root privilege if the prompt change from "$" to "#"

This post has been edited by cowithgun: Jan 2 2012, 04:14 PM

Oh~. In that case, if you still want to find out the app that auto start the 3g and wifi for you, your best bet should be to check each app, and look for those that has permission to receive boot complete or shutdown. Those app will auto start when your phone start....

As explained, the "Move to SD" actually move app to external sd card.

Question for those who did a memory swap. When you use the "Move to SD" in Setting, Manage App, will the app now moved to your internal sd instead?

There are a few ways to verify this:

- Move a big app to your sd, and check the size of storage in "Setting", "Storage". Look for changes in Device memory, USB Storage and SD Card. If your available "SD Card" memory decreased (like the rest of us without memory swap), that mean, your app now is stored in the internal sd.

Or

- Move 1 app to your sd card. Connect your phone to PC, enable USB storage. Now, look for ".android_secure" folder in both drive. This folder contains all encrypted APK that you chose to move to external sd card. Check to see if this folder is in your external sd card or internal sd card. If this is in your internal sd card, that mean, the "Move to SD" feature moved your app into your internal sd.

If this is like what I suspect, swapping memory with vold.fstab will make the "Move to SD" quite useless.

Don't think it's router problem. But if you suspect it is router, you can disable the Wifi in your phone, launch Kies Air, it will ask if you want to enable Hotspot. In this case, your phone is your Wifi AP, then, use your PC's Wifi to connect to the phone's Wifi. Then browse your phone. Note that IP will be http://192.168.xxx.xxx:8080 If problem still persist, most likely you have Antivirus or something that preventing your browser to connect to port 8080.

PS: also check if you dont have Proxy setting in your browser...

This post has been edited by cowithgun: Jan 2 2012, 11:03 PM

Hmm.. that's not what I meant. I mean, without Swap memory, you can use "Move to SD" to move app / game into External SD Card. But after you swap memory, it will not be useful anymore because it could have moved to your Internal SD instead...

That is because Gameloft game hard-coded the download contents to your /sdcard/gameloft directory, which is part of your Internal SD space. The Internal SD space (also known as USB storage) only has 1.7GB. Your 2Gb external sd card is actually mounted in /sdcard/external_sd which Gameloft does not know how to use it.

To solve this problem you have at least 4 methods:

1) Manually patch (or find other ppl patch with google) the game (no need root)
2) swap mount point between /sdcard and /sdcard/external_sd (need root)
3) format internal sd as ext4 and use soft link (need root)
4) use mount bind (need root) (best)

Read more here http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry46939482

PS: there is 1 more easy method - delete stuff in your /sdcard to free up more space

This post has been edited by cowithgun: Jan 2 2012, 11:11 PM

I found the answer to this. The first vold.fstab has this problem; "move to sd" will move your app to your Internal SD. So, if you are using this vold.fstab, you have this problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.p...95&postcount=22

Fortunately, the author already 'fix' this by creating a second version of vold.fstab that will make the "
Move to SD" move your app to your real external sd card.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.p...47&postcount=29

So, if you are already using this second version, ignore everything I said! You're good.

This post has been edited by cowithgun: Jan 2 2012, 11:36 PM

- Can't be achieved without root since you need to edit the /etc/vold.fstab
- Rooted phone are not covered under warranty, but you can always unroot it when you want to claim warranty later
- The built-in "Move to SD" is good enough since it will moved to your external sd card, what else you need?
- You app may break (most of the time, it will be downloaded again) if you simply move the "Android" folder to external sd card

In the case of Gameloft game, the downloaded files are not stored in "Android" folder, but in /sdcard/gameloft. So moving "Android" folder will not solve your problem. You cannot use the "Move to SD" to move stuff in /sdcard/gameloft, it does not work that way. Part of the problem is because of the lazy Gameloft programmer to hard code downloaded files to a fixed folder (/sdcard/gameloft).

Agree that the 3 layers memory is confusing. The problem is worse in SGW because it has too little Internal SD card memory (1.7gb).

Hey, look at the bright side, there are people who already solved this problem using methods above.

meh... after so many posts, you still think it move to internal sd card? obviously you didn't read / click / understand any of the link i post earlier... good luck then!

I tested Grave Tower Defense HD last weekend. I think Sentinel 3: Homeworld is a much better Tower Defense game. So, if you only keep 1 tower defense game in your phone, try Sentinel 3. (Other than Plants vs Zombies, of cause)


Attached thumbnail(s)

Graphic is must better than GraveTD, gameplay also much nicer. You can control an upgradable Commander. See attachment in my previous post

Only 16mb for the APK. PS: I downloaded addition HD files as well, in total about 55Mb of data files.



This post has been edited by cowithgun: Jan 3 2012, 03:12 PM

This tool is using the mount bind technique I post earlier:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2098558/+1740#entry46865404

If you have rooted your phone, and would like to 'transfer' other folder to external sd card, you can simply follow the steps in the link to "mount bind" any folder.

I don't have other games, but for Gun Bros, to move games data to your external sd card, during download, simply select to download data files into your Internal Memory.

Then, move your downloaded files to your external sd card. You can find those files in /data/data/com.glu.gunbros_free/app_save (175mb). Say, you move this to /sdcard/external_sd/data/com.glu.gunbros_free/app_save

Then, u can remove the original folder (/data/data/com.glu.gunbros_free/app_save)

Finally, simply create a softlink to point to the new folder:



This post has been edited by cowithgun: Jan 4 2012, 12:06 AM

having an app is probably easy for most user. but doing it yourself give you advantage to mount bind any game / folder. i have my mount bind auto-mount when phone boot up since i create a script to do that. never need to umount.

may be just me, i never trust any app that uses "root" privilege. u know u can do quite nasty thing with "root" privilege...

it's just like any *nix, use the "ln" command as stated in the code section of my post. but you can only use that on your Device memory (that's why u should download Gun Bros data into Device memory). This is because the device memory uses EXT4 partitions. You cannot use softlink in your USB storage / external sd card since they are FAT.

Sygic is a better GPS than Papago, but Papago can use malfreemap (local community map) which has more POI. POI is important if you like to search for tower/places by name.

Moreover, for unknown reason, Sygic can only find nearby POI. So, if you are in KL, and would like to find something in PD, you will not find it.

I keep both GPS in my SGW.