Wth 50-60% of vocab derived from Chinese either Hokkien, Hakka, Canto or even now Foochow...there will be more..recently I notice another familiar chinese and only unique for Hainanese i.e "Bongkang" or stupid been mentioned numerous times in one of Kdramas..They pronounce it "Bongchun" and yes same meaning i.e stupid haha ...another rude alternative word for stupid in Korean for sure pabo. I only notice the used of Bongchun or bonkang in one of the kdramas..i forgotten which one liao

canto got ngong chun

Ohhhh...Something new..haha..likedat more like Canto sounding rather than Hainanese bongkang liao

Of course, there are words of native origin that can't be written in Chinese.
For example, annyeong = 安寧, but there's no hanja for haseyo. Most verbs are native. I don't know if they would use hanja for parts of the verb (for example, using a hanja for ha in haseyo), but I know for sure that seyo is always in hangul.

(Maybe that Hakka anyong is also written as 安寧)

But wait, if annyeong was a loanword, then what was their greeting before?

I always suspect Anyong is similar to Hakka word but din know the meaning also same haha

anyong - safe strong

haseyo - ho seh bo



zzz haiz dun be so naive

This post has been edited by tankerbell12345: Dec 16 2011, 12:33 AM

Hase = ho se..abit sceptical but you might be right that yo probably mean "bo" in hokkien haha..

Another Alien to chinese,.like hamida...the da at the back probably similar to hokkien - "lah"

Dry Dark soya sauce fat noodle - hokkien mee according to cantonese

why ?

Soya sauce created or popularized by hokkien

Why not mandarin mee ?

cause mandarin language not yet created leh

haiz


But real hokkien mee is from penang version which coincidentally is so similar to japanese ramen who claimed are related to hokkien

This post has been edited by tankerbell12345: Dec 16 2011, 12:56 AM

teppanyaki - tik pan juak ki

nationalism is still strong in this thread.


Ok la.. sino sphere from old times so strong, thus any sino related people will borrow their languange and writing. Writing from sino there are some words that cant be write. So, the japanese cut ties from China as a tributary state and become barbarians. But they florish and create their own language.

For koreans, they are late bloomers in establishing their country. Only at Joseon dynasty they create their own language and its easier to learn than sino.

ohh yeah also penang hokkien is diffrent then KL/Johor

lol @ this...

here we go again.. now spark korean, japanese chinese .. kita serumpum...

inb4 melayu and indo adalah serumpun


but do you know japanese used hate/kill chinese

which remind me indo want to kill <insert race>

get life dude..there is no such thing ketuanan <race>

in another word.. you' all f***ing racist

that the fact

This post has been edited by atombom123: Dec 16 2011, 01:54 AM

Nowadays, people think hokkien are the backward group without realizing that they are the real one. Many hokkiens already leave civilisation and choose to leave in seclusion beacause ultimate everything is emptiness. In taoistic classic, there was only emptiness,there was not only fullness, there was nothingness. If u have no expectation or emptiness, a lousy food tasted like heaven (fullness) to u and vice versa.

If u read sejarah melayu carefully, earliest ethnic chinese major settlement was in penang and other places like in kl, johor, singapore were not existed yet. Penang hokkien uses alot of k and h pronunciation and are spoken word by word which aslo coincides with japanese k and h usage and word by word pronuciation which they claimed are formulated from the tang dynasty(hokkien) whereas hokkien in kl, johor and singapore are spoken with slang and tongue restriction.Most likely, penang hokkien is the original or earlier version and taiwan, kl,johor and singapore are partially influenced by min nan.Why i am comparing with japanese not others is because they still take initiatives and efforts to remain authentic in cultural heritage despite the threat of time.

I was in Seoul I'm april and the metro was in 4 languages, Korean, English, Chinese and japanese. The announcements were also made in these languages. Btw, the Seoul metro is a joy to use, unlike the Malaysian and Singapore rail system.

Super fast too..So far I no need to wait longer than 2 minute. haha. Even jam pack, the nxt train just ~ 2 min away

kamsa hamida = korean

kam sia ha mi lar = hokkien

come suck up me lar = english

kamsa/kam sia = 感謝
hamnida is formal form of verb 'hada' (to do)
haseyo is honorific+polite form of 'hada'.

does 'ho se bo' come from some kind of verb?
… it does not seem so. Because the 'bo' is like 'tak' in Malay, i.e. "Awak sihat tak?" Haseyo does not have that kind of meaning.
What about 'ha mi lar'?

You mean, to preserve the Hokkien cultural heritage. As the proto-Japanese culture are mostly lost due to assimilation with imported culture. Hokkien culture gets preserved because that's one of the earliest writings to exist in Japan.
Meanwhile, Hokkien lost out to the "Mandarin" (heh) culture. Ironic, isn't it?

Hokkien still OK. Just take example of Manchurian. They ruled China for 3 centuries under Qing Dynasties after the last true Han chinese Ming empire in 1600++.

And during their ruling, they adopted Chinese culture & mandarin and on last count, only less than 100 true manchurian speak manchu. All already 100% converted to mandarin liao...

Similarly in M'sia..the new generation of chinese also losing their mother tongue liao and adopting to mandarin...really cham man