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 The Official iPhone 4S Discussion Thread v5!

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post Dec 27 2011, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(gouken @ Dec 27 2011, 03:05 PM)
whoa, that's alot of misinformation there bro. jus an advice, it will be more helpful to others if you read more before posting this.

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if i charge my batt like below 20% and if i use the batt app, shall i ignor it and unplug when is full or stil have to follow and give extra 2 hours charge each time?
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post Dec 27 2011, 03:29 PM

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is it okay to leave my phone charged eventho it reached 100% ?

cause i wanna use the phone`s internet via usb.. sad.gif
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post Dec 27 2011, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(gouken @ Dec 27 2011, 03:05 PM)
whoa, that's alot of misinformation there bro. jus an advice, it will be more helpful to others if you read more before posting this.

below are common facts that you can find from all those reliable sources including from Apple and wiki:

1. For LiIon battery, you can charge at ANYTIME (not half, 30% or 40%) unlike nickel-based batteries
2. It will not burden or damage the battery if you charge it at 1% or even when the phone turn off by itself because there is a reserve battery after it is switch off for battery protection.
3. You don't need to ALWAYS do full charge, the diminishing cycles are automatically calculated internally from the total 1,000 cycles available for Apple LiIon batteries. This means, if you use your iPhone until 40% and charge it back to 100% (used 60%), and then you use up and it drop to 20% (used 80%), and you charge again to 100% and it drop to 40% later (used 40%). So the total use-up cycles for that duration will be 2 cycles from the 1000 available because (60%+80%+60%=200%=2 cycles).
4. The maximum duration of time you need to do a full charge is ONCE a month, not ALWAYS. And this battery calibrating exercise is to make the battery level reading more accurate on your iPhone and keep the juice inside active running. But if you want to do full charge always also can, thats the good thing about LiIon batteries, you can charge whatever ways you want.
5. In fact, the best way to preserve your iPhone battery is actually to plug in to power all the time.


I know this sounds silly but if you spend most of the time in front of your computer while working, just plug it in and continue charging it. This way you will not waste your battery charge cycles. Lithium ion battery especially Apple will not overcharge and once it's full it will auto switch off and use from DC. Unplug it and use it like normal when you need to go out. Once a month, trickle charge for extra 2 hours for 100% and let it drain to 0% without pluging in. Leave it off for at least 5 hours and recharge back to 100% and turn back on. This will both calibrate back your battery and keeping the electrolyte inside running healthy.

This method is for those who want their phone to hold charges well above 80% after more than 3-years of usage. I did the same for my 3GS and it's battery is still superb.

For most users though, normal charge-use-discharge-use is fine and can replace the battery with use up charge cycles after 3-years.

Apple Batteries Information Page
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this method is suitable for all product that is using LiIon battery right?
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post Dec 27 2011, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(gouken @ Dec 27 2011, 03:05 PM)
whoa, that's alot of misinformation there bro. jus an advice, it will be more helpful to others if you read more before posting this.

below are common facts that you can find from all those reliable sources including from Apple and wiki:

1. For LiIon battery, you can charge at ANYTIME (not half, 30% or 40%) unlike nickel-based batteries
2. It will not burden or damage the battery if you charge it at 1% or even when the phone turn off by itself because there is a reserve battery after it is switch off for battery protection.
3. You don't need to ALWAYS do full charge, the diminishing cycles are automatically calculated internally from the total 1,000 cycles available for Apple LiIon batteries. This means, if you use your iPhone until 40% and charge it back to 100% (used 60%), and then you use up and it drop to 20% (used 80%), and you charge again to 100% and it drop to 40% later (used 40%). So the total use-up cycles for that duration will be 2 cycles from the 1000 available because (60%+80%+60%=200%=2 cycles).
4. The maximum duration of time you need to do a full charge is ONCE a month, not ALWAYS. And this battery calibrating exercise is to make the battery level reading more accurate on your iPhone and keep the juice inside active running. But if you want to do full charge always also can, thats the good thing about LiIon batteries, you can charge whatever ways you want.
5. In fact, the best way to preserve your iPhone battery is actually to plug in to power all the time.


I know this sounds silly but if you spend most of the time in front of your computer while working, just plug it in and continue charging it. This way you will not waste your battery charge cycles. Lithium ion battery especially Apple will not overcharge and once it's full it will auto switch off and use from DC. Unplug it and use it like normal when you need to go out. Once a month, trickle charge for extra 2 hours for 100% and let it drain to 0% without pluging in. Leave it off for at least 5 hours and recharge back to 100% and turn back on. This will both calibrate back your battery and keeping the electrolyte inside running healthy.

This method is for those who want their phone to hold charges well above 80% after more than 3-years of usage. I did the same for my 3GS and it's battery is still superb.

For most users though, normal charge-use-discharge-use is fine and can replace the battery with use up charge cycles after 3-years.

Apple Batteries Information Page
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I got the info for LiIon battery from here http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article...to_charge_table
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post Dec 27 2011, 04:05 PM

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Hi everyone, wanna check with u guys which Maxis Outlet / Center got iPhone 4s Black Color in 16GB ? as few of the outlets i check only got white ><"
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post Dec 27 2011, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(andyfriends @ Dec 27 2011, 03:28 PM)
if i charge my batt like below 20% and if i use the batt app, shall i ignor it and unplug when is full or stil have to follow and give extra 2 hours charge each time?
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either way oso can, it's up to you. if you do trickle charge, youll notice your battery can lasts abit longer for single charge.
my advice is not to worry too much about battery maintenance for your iPhone. just enjoy your phone and charge it whenever you need to.
the problem of memory problem and overchraging are bygone history. and using an apple products especially, they are quite in the forefront of
battery technology, we don't need to fret to much over this.

but one fact remains, any battery regardless how well we maintain it, will diminish in performance the day we started using it.


Added on December 27, 2011, 4:20 pm
QUOTE(kahjye @ Dec 27 2011, 03:29 PM)
is it okay to leave my phone charged eventho it reached 100% ?

cause i wanna use the phone`s internet via usb.. sad.gif
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no problem, i've been doing this for my iPhones and MBP for years and their battery performance still above 80% of design capacity.

UNLESS your charger is faulty or not the genuine one, inadvertently charged to a higher than specified voltage.

This post has been edited by gouken: Dec 27 2011, 04:20 PM
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post Dec 27 2011, 04:23 PM

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How to print screen guys?
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post Dec 27 2011, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(kenjixx @ Dec 27 2011, 03:32 PM)
this method is suitable for all product that is using LiIon battery right?
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yup, especially Apple products because they are leading the industry in battery technology R&D


Added on December 27, 2011, 4:26 pm
QUOTE(Eidilfitrix @ Dec 27 2011, 03:42 PM)
I got the info for LiIon battery from here http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article...to_charge_table
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try reading slowly and the phrases used wink.gif

This post has been edited by gouken: Dec 27 2011, 04:26 PM
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post Dec 27 2011, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(D-Frog @ Dec 27 2011, 04:23 PM)
How to print screen guys?
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Hold down the Home button and then press the Power button. You will hear the iPhone take a snapshot.
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post Dec 27 2011, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(Ch3n_low @ Dec 27 2011, 11:13 AM)
Machines are selling iphone 4s???? LOL
So where did u bought urs??
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Bought at celcom.. Lucky me for walk in customer..

Most of the telco service only reserved for pre-booking customer..

This post has been edited by roxx: Dec 27 2011, 05:40 PM
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post Dec 27 2011, 06:07 PM

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Guys..how to delete newsstand icon in our iphone without jailbreak?any way?
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post Dec 27 2011, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(rathian_mhfu @ Dec 27 2011, 06:07 PM)
Guys..how to delete newsstand icon in our iphone without jailbreak?any way?
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Tak bole but you can throw it into a folder by dragging another app to another app to create folder and right before you release it drag the newsstand app instead (need to be quick)...this hack will crash when the newsstand is tap though...

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post Dec 27 2011, 09:11 PM

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post Dec 27 2011, 10:36 PM

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Hey guys, How much if buy from telco or machines without contract??
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QUOTE(QPheng @ Dec 27 2011, 04:05 PM)
Hi everyone, wanna check with u guys which Maxis Outlet / Center got iPhone 4s Black Color in 16GB ? as few of the outlets i check only got white ><"
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Really?suddenly white is everywhere..
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post Dec 27 2011, 11:04 PM

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Guys,

Any iTunes 10 hack to make it accept ringtone >30secs?

Thanks
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post Dec 27 2011, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Dec 27 2011, 11:04 PM)
Guys,

Any iTunes 10 hack to make it accept ringtone >30secs?

Thanks
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audiko.net

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post Dec 27 2011, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(kahjye @ Dec 27 2011, 11:13 PM)
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Er... Im not sure if you understood my question... I have no problem making my own m4r...

I just wonder how to trick or hack iTunes so that it wont block me from transferring a custom ringtone longer than 30seconds.
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post Dec 27 2011, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(phas3r @ Dec 27 2011, 04:35 AM)
so only two of us got 64GB? my video already 14GB and music 3GB, in all, 21GB already used. but now worried about RAM, dunno where to check
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haha im using 64gb too, but i'm already more than halfway used up =\
cause my phone is my lifeline, all my music and apps and pictures and videos all inside
some more i have a lot of apps for my work, so it's almost 75% filled up haha
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post Dec 28 2011, 05:05 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Dec 27 2011, 11:24 PM)
Er... Im not sure if you understood my question... I have no problem making my own m4r...

I just wonder how to trick or hack iTunes so that it wont block me from transferring a custom ringtone longer than 30seconds.
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I am using 40 sec ringtone, created using ringtoneDJ app. Then copy the m4r from app tab and click on it, auto added to itunes and sync it. I downloaded the apps for free. And i guess it is still free now smile.gif many of iphone app can create 40 sec ( the limit now ) m4r.

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