What was the package that comes with the Rafale?

lolz Libya combat is like latest weapon fight against cold war weapons.

macam m1 vs t72 kat iraq.

guys, i need info about which models of aircraft have the ability of thrust vectoring.

as I aware, F-35 and SU-37 only. Maybe SU-35 got it.(please note that this is only that i know).

how about F-22, i heard that this jet's thrust vectoring is fail.

How about South Korea? I heard Sukhoi offered them for their next generation fighter.

Passive of'coz can detect the stealth but stealth futures dat apply on the aircraft reduce the range of detection of the radar.

stealth technology always being misunderstood. like stealth mean cannot detect. in realities it only evade radar frequency aje
let say:
A radar with a range of 200km effective range for normal fighter.
however his effective range reduce to 50km for detecting a stealth bomber or stealth fighter.
The whole things become even more complex when differ radar bands reacts differently on the stealth method use on stealth fighter. "I'm not quite sure about the technical parts"
yup, but still not sure how effective were it against the next generation stealth fighter like the PAKFA, F-35, B-2 and china stealth fighter.
however 1 things for sure its will be quite effective against the F-15 silent eagle which optimize for xband radar.
confirm..

What I try to imply is other poor regional country are trying to modernise their AF on the cheap due to tight budget allocation. They trying to purchase second hand weapons, get the quantity vs quality as you always mentioned. We on the other hand like to buy weapons with special customized configuration and also want build locally with ToT. That inflated their price by a large margin and limit the quantity we can purchase. Examples are PT-91M, NGPV, EC725, AV8, LCS etc. We know our defence budget is small and our weapon systems are old and need replacement in a hurry and yet we are wasting time and resources in paying high price for the development of the most customize weaponry and local defence industry infrastructures with only ATM as customer. It does not make sense at all.

Being tight on budget we need to acquire value for money weaponry. All the 3 branches of our ATM have immediate need to develop new capabilities and replace EOL equipments, and they need them now and not 20-30 years later.

Case study - our tank program. The army has requested tank for more than like 20 years? Due to limited budget the army has to make do with an up-gun Scorpion recon vehicles. Only recently we manage to acquire a limited quantity of MBT. We spent quite a sum to develop custom PT-91M, an old design chassis with modern electronic systems. The cost inclusive of integration development could almost allow us to purchase Abram M-1 for same qty. It make sense to pay for the development cost if we're to purchase hundreds of PT-91M but true to the tradition of Mindef, there has been talk (i'm not sure if it has been already a decision) to stop at 48 tanks and we will choose another model for future requirement. WTF! Why we spent so much to get the most sophisticated electronic into the old design chassis and stop at 48. We could have purchased hundreds of off-the-shelf tanks for the same sum. We see the same trend in the Navy as well. In response, SAF purchased secondhand Leopard tank at value for money and the TNI did tried do the same but unsuccesful due to objection from producer country. Looks like our Armored Brigade will take a couple more RMK to finally come to full strength, hopefully not after the navy got their LCS by year 2020.

I can go on ranting about the same thing hitting our Navy but let me stop here for now.

I'm not questioning the capability of Pendekar but the MA/Mindef in spending the extra money to develop a sophisticated equipment but purchase a limited qty. If the performance is so good, we should buy more and not thinking about buying another model that would repeat the same process again. We should expect lower unit price from repeat order but not after a laps of 10 years or more.

I thought they wanted to have at least 200 units.