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post May 7 2012, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ May 6 2012, 11:53 PM)
FN P90 for me. Feels great mang.
Johor is not part of SG?  whistling.gif
Apart from SG and Johor only Brunei is using SAR.
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heh, based on the weapon and equipment of JMF they are more US then SG!


QUOTE(olman @ May 7 2012, 12:22 AM)
dude that LP-06 is so wrong!

the scope is located too high, which means the shooter will have his head higher than his opponent which means easier picking
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That's what happen when a sports shooter design a weapon!
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post May 7 2012, 12:47 AM

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about this "hurr durr 556 is harmless liao"i recalled bro empire's quote few bebenang back

"try shoot yourself with .22"

MP-5 is preferred in CQB engagement partly because of it's size and the size of them bullets. by using pistol calibre it's unlikely to cause overpenetration(on walls) and stray and hit someone innocent

btw them berapi rifle is a prototype.it's never meant to be beyond it.
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post May 7 2012, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ May 7 2012, 12:47 AM)
about this "hurr durr 556 is harmless liao"i recalled bro empire's quote few bebenang back

"try shoot yourself with .22"

MP-5 is preferred in CQB engagement partly because of it's size and the size of them bullets. by using pistol calibre it's unlikely to cause overpenetration(on walls) and stray and hit someone innocent

btw them berapi rifle is a prototype.it's never meant to be beyond it.
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I concur on the MP5 but at least bring a larger calibre in case the bad guy wear a bullet proof vest.


Added on May 7, 2012, 12:57 amAnyway boleh land is buying a lot of M4 to replace the strye.

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post May 7 2012, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ May 7 2012, 12:54 AM)
I concur on the MP5 but at least bring a larger calibre in case the bad guy wear a bullet proof vest.
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lol... in cqb dunnit high caliber... coz at such close range if u hit non vital parts will still bleed and vital parts with vest will still fall on ground dazed.. high caliber high recoil and long barrel most of the time.. so very bulky and cumbersome

if got vest use mp7 lor... brows.gif
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post May 7 2012, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ May 7 2012, 01:00 AM)
lol... in cqb dunnit high caliber... coz at such close range if u hit non vital parts will still bleed and vital parts with vest will still fall on ground dazed.. high caliber high recoil and long barrel most of the time.. so very bulky and cumbersome

if got vest use mp7 lor...  brows.gif
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bad guy AK47 VS police MP5 or MP7. if i am the police i better surrender to the bad guy. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif Anyway i see a lot of AK47 in indonesia might swim in to malaysia.

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post May 7 2012, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ May 7 2012, 12:03 AM)
i choose AK47 or something that shoot 7.62 At least i am sure target is down on the sport when 7.62 stuck into it. 5.56 that ******* still can run and bleed to dead and you will loose confidence in the battlefield and you said to urself kena ke atau tak kena.Then you have doubt on the 5.56 and that will kill you.
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A living thing would be dead if shot in the head straight on using 50 cal, 7.62 or .22 caliber.


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post May 7 2012, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ May 7 2012, 01:05 AM)
bad guy AK47 VS police MP5 or MP7. if i am the police i better surrender to the bad guy. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif Anyway i see a lot of AK47 in indonesia might swim in to malaysia.
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police dont use high caliber weapons... unless they belong to swat limited to assault and snipers... police usually cqb lor, pistols, sub mac and shotgun.. now tazer/maze

based on ur understanding... why dont use 0.50cal machine gun? that would scare everyone to surrender?

if indon swim to msia... d military will deal with them already... not police

QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ May 7 2012, 01:06 AM)
A living thing would be dead if shot in the head straight on using 50 cal, 7.62 or .22 caliber.
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ May 7 2012, 01:06 AM)
A living thing would be dead if shot in the head straight on using 50 cal, 7.62 or .22 caliber.
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Please try to do that when i rain 7.62 into you.
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post May 7 2012, 01:13 AM

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indon don't use AKs as standard weapon...
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post May 7 2012, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ May 7 2012, 01:09 AM)
police dont use high caliber weapons... unless they belong to swat limited to assault and snipers...  police usually cqb lor, pistols, sub mac and shotgun.. now tazer/maze

based on ur understanding... why dont use 0.50cal machine gun? that would scare everyone to surrender?

if indon swim to msia... d military will deal with them already... not police
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout

Please read this every Police in US put their M16 in their car bonet.
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post May 7 2012, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(keown83 @ May 7 2012, 12:19 AM)
this vita berapi u mean?

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dont know bout the performance, but judging from the looks, i think i understand why it never have a chance

damn it...even that simplistic AK-47 have a gorgeous design, why Berapi design so fail wan? macam senapang tak sempat siap...the russian haz trolled the company? company tak bayar gaji dia?
compare it with Pindad's next SS3 project;

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ini baru namanya senapang!
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Ya.

I hope that they don't say that the firearm are design to be lighter, so a lot of "exposed" area. Easily to clog up with dusts and mud for the least.

QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ May 7 2012, 01:09 AM)
police dont use high caliber weapons... unless they belong to swat limited to assault and snipers...  police usually cqb lor, pistols, sub mac and shotgun.. now tazer/maze

based on ur understanding... why dont use 0.50cal machine gun? that would scare everyone to surrender?

if indon swim to msia... d military will deal with them already... not police
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I think he meant the black market AKs.

I still remember a drama where a law enforcement officer see a bunch of criminal drive humvee, then he say:" if they mount a 50 cal on thing, i am gonna retire."
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post May 7 2012, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ May 6 2012, 07:49 PM)
QUOTE(HangPC2 @ Apr 18 2012, 01:31 PM)


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Semua bodoh lah pakai MP5. Kalau penjahat pakai bulletproof vest dengan Ak47 mati semua lah. Real bodoh lah. You think you can have a clear shot on the head with MP5 when 7.62 rain down on you??
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post May 7 2012, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ May 7 2012, 01:19 AM)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout

Please read this every Police in US put their M16 in their car bonet.
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US la... US!!!

even their pistols are .45 ... msia?

US police have to be heavily armed... coz firearms are common there

QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ May 7 2012, 01:22 AM)
I hope that they don't say that the firearm are design to be lighter, so a lot of "exposed" area. Easily to clog up with dusts and mud for the least.
I think he meant the black market AKs.

I still remember a drama where a law enforcement officer see a bunch of criminal drive humvee, then he say:" if they mount a 50 cal on thing, i am gonna retire."
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indon army buy black market ak and swim over to msia? doh.gif
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post May 7 2012, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ May 7 2012, 01:10 AM)
Please try to do that when i rain 7.62 into you.
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I'll run away for cover first. tongue.gif

QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ May 7 2012, 01:19 AM)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout

Please read this every Police in US put their M16 in their car bonet.
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LOL.

Imagine if all Malaysian police have that kind of arms in the bonnet. Criminal no need to buy guns aymore. Just hijack a police car would do.
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ May 7 2012, 01:25 AM)
US la... US!!!

even their pistols are .45 ... msia?

US police have to be heavily armed... coz firearms are common there
indon army buy black market ak and swim over to msia?  doh.gif
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He meant Black Market criminals get them to use in Malaysia...
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post May 7 2012, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ May 7 2012, 01:25 AM)
US la... US!!!

even their pistols are .45 ... msia?

US police have to be heavily armed... coz firearms are common there
indon army buy black market ak and swim over to msia?  doh.gif
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2000 Sipadan kidnapping. i think Abu sayyaf gang forget to bring AK47, they bring hand gun only kua. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post May 7 2012, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ May 7 2012, 01:29 AM)
He meant Black Market criminals get them to use in Malaysia...
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maybe... maybe hmm.gif but criminals got vest?

QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ May 7 2012, 01:31 AM)
2000 Sipadan kidnapping. i think Abu sayyaf gang forget to bring AK47, they bring hand gun only kua.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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more like m16 i think... dunno leh.. cannot rmb... abu sayap dealt by navy i think.. not police lor
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well even if you use kevlar, it just reduce incoming damage from mp5 from 5 hit ko to 7 hit ko. head shot still will die XD
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ May 7 2012, 01:33 AM)
maybe... maybe  hmm.gif  but criminals got vest?
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Majority don't have. Some might home made for themselves.

BTW, foreign threats are handled by military with their weapon of choice. They know what to use for the best outcome.
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also not to forget police will have flashbang and nades. worst come to worst someone firing ak at them just throw a nade.


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