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post Dec 9 2011, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Dec 9 2011, 07:28 PM)
EVO X use cvt rite? doh.gif
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nope.
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post Dec 9 2011, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Dec 9 2011, 08:07 PM)
next year...goverment said all kar must have 2 airbag.....
innova and avanza have been quite a long time....long before exora released....wait till it hit the shelf life and we will see wad happen by then
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but no reason to not include it now rite? this concerns the safety of the drivers and passengers

and that avanza is not the old model we're talking about....its the NEW model.scheduled to be launched this month or early next year
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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Dec 9 2011, 08:07 PM)
next year...goverment said all kar must have 2 airbag.....
innova and avanza have been quite a long time....long before exora released....wait till it hit the shelf life and we will see wad happen by then
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Toyota already announce new Avanza. It gonna be a while for them to introduce another new one.
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i really like the fact they threw in direct injection, while the koreans are still pretending direct injection engines are not suitable in malaysia because of 'fuel quality'

this really differentiates the engine from pokok cherry turboed campros
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Dec 9 2011, 08:09 PM)
but no reason to not include it now rite? this concerns the safety of the drivers and passengers

and that avanza is not the old model we're talking about....its the NEW model.scheduled to be launched this month or early next year
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it's a facelift model.. not all new model change
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 9 2011, 08:10 PM)
it's a facelift model.. not  all new model change
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i dun think so....its facelifted around 2008

http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/toyota-gives...other-facelift/


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It’s a very basic facelift, minor changes that are done just to extend the lifespan of this model that has been around since 2004 and facelifted once in 2006. If you follow a 5 year model lifespan it should be retiring next year but it looks like the Avanza will be around for quite sometime.


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post Dec 9 2011, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Dec 9 2011, 08:15 PM)
i dun think so....its facelifted around 2008

http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/toyota-gives...other-facelift/
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chassis is the same ler.. the "new" dashboard is taken from the current nautica rush which they share the chassis..
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 9 2011, 08:16 PM)
chassis is the same ler.. the "new" dashboard is taken from the current nautica rush which they share the chassis..
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that's why lor....they keep recycle it but still the same old tech inside and spec list still no improvements inside.price still rip off biggrin.gif
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post Dec 9 2011, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 9 2011, 07:40 PM)
well if dun even care about value or price, why even sit proton? so good meh?
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better than toyota
not to say toyota is bad but the local model are really not worthed compare to proton/perodua
paid X2 price but quality is worse than p1/p2
if wan toyota...better buy those japanese model...those are real toyota
the only local toyota model that i see worthed is only hilux but the new hilux isn't as tough as the old ones already...quality dropped
the only downside is the underpower engine but can be compensated with unichip
the other model...totally not worthed
especially avanza....rumors say avanza is design by the accounting department...main purpose is to cut cost and for low income ppl(not really low income in fact)
i sit on avanza be4....NVH way worse than my saga blm...everywhere vibrate....my saga blm doesn't even vibrate....soundproof is on par with saga which doesn't even comes with soundproof
so for a better 2nd hand price...buying an avanza is totally nt worthed at all
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post Dec 9 2011, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Dec 9 2011, 08:17 PM)
that's why lor....they keep recycle it but still the same old tech inside and spec list still no improvements inside.price still rip off biggrin.gif
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laugh.gif i think they open new moulds for the exterior and interior but the mechanicals like drive train look the same.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 9 2011, 08:19 PM)
better than toyota
not to say toyota is bad but the local model are really not worthed compare to proton/perodua
paid X2 price but quality is worse than p1/p2
if wan toyota...better buy those japanese model...those are real toyota
the only local toyota model that i see worthed is only hilux but the new hilux isn't as tough as the old ones already...quality dropped
the only downside is the underpower engine but can be compensated with unichip
the other model...totally not worthed
especially avanza....rumors say avanza is design by the accounting department...main purpose is to cut cost and for low income ppl(not really low income in fact)
i sit on avanza be4....NVH way worse than my saga blm...everywhere vibrate....my saga blm doesn't even vibrate....soundproof is on par with saga which doesn't even comes with soundproof
so for a better 2nd hand price...buying an avanza is totally nt worthed at all
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and they say its built under contract by perodua biggrin.gif

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Avanza

confirmed the soon to be launched is the new (maybe not so new) gen

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The next generation of Avanza featured with increased dimensions and a more passenger car like design and has launched on November 7, 2011 in Jakarta, Indonesia.


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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Dec 9 2011, 08:17 PM)
that's why lor....they keep recycle it but still the same old tech inside and spec list still no improvements inside.price still rip off biggrin.gif
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ya....that why its call a new model but in reality is still a facelift cuz engine, GB, chasis is still same
only if these are new model or upgraded thn only can consider new model...if not still facelift like vios
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Bersin one.. hehehe..
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post Dec 9 2011, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 9 2011, 08:19 PM)
better than toyota
not to say toyota is bad but the local model are really not worthed compare to proton/perodua
paid X2 price but quality is worse than p1/p2
if wan toyota...better buy those japanese model...those are real toyota
the only local toyota model that i see worthed is only hilux but the new hilux isn't as tough as the old ones already...quality dropped
the only downside is the underpower engine but can be compensated with unichip
the other model...totally not worthed
especially avanza....rumors say avanza is design by the accounting department...main purpose is to cut cost and for low income ppl(not really low income in fact)
i sit on avanza be4....NVH way worse than my saga blm...everywhere vibrate....my saga blm doesn't even vibrate....soundproof is on par with saga which doesn't even comes with soundproof
so for a better 2nd hand price...buying an avanza is totally nt worthed at all
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acterly i have the avanza which i let the mah chai worker use.. biggrin.gif and the blm saga in the house for "chou yeung" rough use..
only thing i complain about the avanza is the rear wheel likes to hop over bumps and high engine rpm at 110kmh..
the blm saga not really that great as well.. somehow not there yet.. quite alot of NVH rough engine, heavy steering , etc..

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this model will make proton roar once again
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post Dec 9 2011, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 9 2011, 08:07 PM)
nope.
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i see.. but 138hp is soo low to be a burden to cvt btw,
its kinda like low compression turbo only..
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post Dec 9 2011, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Dec 9 2011, 08:26 PM)
i see.. but 138hp is soo low to be a burden to cvt btw,
its kinda like low compression turbo only..
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yeah torque and power of a 2L engine only, a modern CVT can handle.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 9 2011, 08:24 PM)
acterly i have the avanza which i let the mah chai worker use..  biggrin.gif  and the blm saga in the house for "chou yeung" rough use..
only thing i complain about the avanza is the rear wheel likes to hop over bumps and high engine rpm at 110kmh..
the blm saga not really that great as well.. somehow not there yet.. quite alot of NVH rough engine, heavy steering , etc..
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haha....the NVH rough engine ..like i said...the car doesn't even come with soundproof compare to avanza full soundproof
heavy steering is actually the advantage of proton...or should i say the nature of lotus handling
when u cruise highway..that heavy steering will enable u to drive with 1-2 finger yet car is still so stable
and cornering also very confident
in the other hand...the super soft toyota steering is their weaknesses....when they drive slow or fast also need to hold it tightly with 2 hand..so tight like its going to loss control
if next time u drive european car like merc and BMW...u'll know why...and dnt complain heavy steering at that time

ps: not just toyota, p2 as well cuz they're the same

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post Dec 9 2011, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 9 2011, 08:30 PM)
haha....the NVH rough engine ..like i said...the car doesn't even come with soundproof compare to avanza full soundproof
heavy steering is actually the advantage of proton...or should i say the nature of lotus handling
when u cruise highway..that heavy steering will enable u to drive with 1-2 finger yet car is still so stable
and cornering also very confident
in the other hand...the super soft toyota steering is their weaknesses....when they drive slow or fast also need to hold it tightly with 2 hand..so tight like its going to loss control
if next time u drive european car like merc and BMW...u'll know why...and dnt complain heavy steering at that time

ps: not just toyota, p2 as well cuz they're the same
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if only blm got super handling due to heavy steering.. sorry but it's not even nearly as stable as my swift at high speed say above 120kmh.. not to mention light steering cars like akod and teana in my garage.. biggrin.gif even my previous conti 407 was not heavy steering..
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QUOTE(mu77 @ Dec 9 2011, 12:46 PM)
Figures are massively improved, but still it is lower compared to the likes of the Prince 1.6 THP engine??  hmm.gif
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Wow you compare proton in house engine with engine that won world award. As proton basher i think proton should be proud, this comparison alone is a very big achievement. Silly you!

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