how upgraded do u wish?
all disc is it?
navara's 400+Nm is still front disc and rear drum
but of course i also wish for all disc...for less problem/peace of mind

i kinda saw it as well...a metal thingy there
thn good....less problem...easy maintainance

i dn't think so...its just a small turbo
and the car isn't like a 3 sec car....it only improves abit of the pickup(torque)
and i think this is improved alot version...they use campro CFE...and this already solve the underpower problem
somemore now they're mating it with a CVT GB which makes the pickup much faster than usual 4AT
so this car is gonna be very powerful, very fast pickup and very smooth

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Dec 9 2011, 03:01 PM

although turbo...ppl will assume FC will increase
this is where the CVT gets into his job...lowering the RPM...lower FC
already proven in saga

nice huh...liked it

and the new avanza is going to released soon....at a more expensive price
but still nevertheless..still got ppl buy cuz its a toyota

price only
experience on driving it = total NIGHTMARE
its not worthed to buy a car solely becuz it has a better 2nd hand price and not having a good driving experience
i dn't know why ppl care so much abt the 2nd hand value while the car itself sarks big time...its just not worthed

better than toyota
not to say toyota is bad but the local model are really not worthed compare to proton/perodua
paid X2 price but quality is worse than p1/p2
if wan toyota...better buy those japanese model...those are real toyota
the only local toyota model that i see worthed is only hilux but the new hilux isn't as tough as the old ones already...quality dropped
the only downside is the underpower engine but can be compensated with unichip
the other model...totally not worthed
especially avanza....rumors say avanza is design by the accounting department...main purpose is to cut cost and for low income ppl(not really low income in fact)
i sit on avanza be4....NVH way worse than my saga blm...everywhere vibrate....my saga blm doesn't even vibrate....soundproof is on par with saga which doesn't even comes with soundproof
so for a better 2nd hand price...buying an avanza is totally nt worthed at all

ya....that why its call a new model but in reality is still a facelift cuz engine, GB, chasis is still same
only if these are new model or upgraded thn only can consider new model...if not still facelift like vios

haha....the NVH rough engine ..like i said...the car doesn't even come with soundproof compare to avanza full soundproof
heavy steering is actually the advantage of proton...or should i say the nature of lotus handling
when u cruise highway..that heavy steering will enable u to drive with 1-2 finger yet car is still so stable
and cornering also very confident
in the other hand...the super soft toyota steering is their weaknesses....when they drive slow or fast also need to hold it tightly with 2 hand..so tight like its going to loss control
if next time u drive european car like merc and BMW...u'll know why...and dnt complain heavy steering at that time

ps: not just toyota, p2 as well cuz they're the same

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Dec 9 2011, 08:31 PM

not to say super handling
just that that heavy steering is better when u drive on highway or high speed...u dn't need to grab the steering so tight
corner is not brilliant but consider very good for that price..and somemore saga's height is quiet high...not really low
i saw alot of toyota and p2 drivers holding their steering so tight with 2 hand when even driving slow

price range..all abt price range
did u see alot of lancer on the road?..no...thn dn't expect to see that much inspira on the road as well....not alot can afford
do u see alot of exora on the road..yes...thn u'll see quiet a lot of this exora bold on the road
its a matter of affordability and what ppl see in that car...worthed or not