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> New draft law will jail unlicensed IT professional, IT industry in Malaysia is finished. Serious Talk

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Sarah Angelina
post Dec 10 2011, 09:37 AM

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Ya right, out of all days, want to choose a Tuesday. So that will be the day with most MC nationwide or asking us to shaddup just sit in the office? What kind of idiotic people they are? Came up with the news on a Friday evening and now having this so called open day on Tuesday? For Selangor people having long weekend, how to apply leave? We don't need to work is it? Or shall be the whole IT company not operating on that particular day to attend?
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post Dec 10 2011, 09:38 AM

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Don't like it. People who are in charge of dealing with CNII project should be INTELLIGENT enough to sieve the lousy IT consultant from the good IT consultants.

Staffing the correct people in CNII is the government's duty.
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post Dec 10 2011, 09:44 AM

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Is there any chance that this bill will also affect artist who do his/her drawing digitally too actually? hmm.gif
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post Dec 10 2011, 10:33 AM

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I'm really curious - who started this idea?
thesoothsayer
post Dec 10 2011, 11:02 AM

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Why do we need this Act? The need of this Act is to achieve the following objectives:

Enhance the value of the profession as it will require registered members to possess minimum levels of qualification/experience;

The industry already screens out candidates through both their qualifications and ability using a rigorous interview process. People without an IT certification demonstrate their ability through their projects and output. This law just creates another layer of worthless overhead for everyone.

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Raise professional standards by developing and maintaining a code of conduct for computing professionals;

Companies already have a code of conduct. Freelancers who show poor work ethics lose out on work. People who cheat are prosecuted using the criminal code. How does this bill ensure that IT people become more professional?

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Review qualifications offered by other bodies in order to serve as a guide and reference when gauging which certifications are valid and relevant;

Degrees in Malaysia and other countries are subject to each country's education bodies. People in the industry know what they are looking for when they hire. Certifications don't mean anything if the candidate flunks the interview. Why is it necessary for the government to decide what certifications for IT are valid and relevant for a largely self-governing industry?

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Provide some level of assurance of the quality of computing professionals to employers who hire those who are registered by BCPM;
How does the bill provide this assurance? Will they interview all the computing professionals to make sure they are capable? Or will they just audit the certificates they have? If they are just auditing the certificates, what value is added compared to companies auditing the certificates themselves? If they are interviewing, who will be conducting the interviews and how can we be assured of the quality of the interviewers and how will they know the specific needs of each company?

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Enhance the supply of ICT manpower in the country and help the nation achieve the goals of the New Economic Model in becoming a productive high-income nation; and

Does this even make sense? A bill attempting to limit the IT professionals through their education background will enhance the supply of ICT manpower?

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Serve as a central repository of all computing professionals and practitioners in the country.

It can serve as a repository, but what does the government want to do with such a repository? Is it imagined that companies that want to hire will be able to look through the resumes and qualifications? That role seems to be already occupied and provided by websites like jobstreet, monster, etc. The question, really, is why?
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post Dec 10 2011, 11:27 AM

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It's just a new board to give employment to the failed graduates hired by UMNO government.

Failed graduates who probably can't make a simple Word document, let alone understand the difference between Cisco or Oracle.

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post Dec 10 2011, 12:02 PM

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IT profession is already the most stressful job... and most of the IT experts in Malaysia are totally underpaid... sad.gif

http://www.talktalk.co.uk/jobs/features/stressful-jobs.html
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post Dec 10 2011, 12:08 PM

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MOSTI would like to assure all concerned parties that the establishment of the proposed BCPM is a body that will give recognition to the information, technology and communication (ICT) practitioners in the country as professionals in their respective computing domain. BCPM does not aim to regulate the computing profession in the nation but only applies to those that are identified as Critical National Information Infrastructure (CNII) entities with the intent to safeguard the interest of the nation in view of the current dynamic and challenging global environments. CNII is defined as those assets, systems and functions that are vital to the nation that their incapacity or destruction would have a devastating impact on National economic strength or National image or National defence and security or Government capability to function or Public health and safety. The CNII entities will be as identified by the The Chief Government Security Office (CGSO).
Posted this in another thread and I would like to repeat it here since MOSTI released the statement above.


Wait. Have you read and understood it?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1j1VC50E...8/edit?hl=en_US

Tell me where it mentions that you only need it when you want to do work for the government.

It only mentions that IT professionals working on areas of the CNII need to be registered. The areas of CNII encompasses a very wide swath of work. Almost every IT professional works in a field related to the CNII.


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2.(1)    This Act applies throughout Malaysia.

(2)    This    Act    applies    to    the    Critical    National    Information Infrastructure (CNII).


(3)    Every    Registered    Computing    Practitioner,    Registered Computing        Professional    and        Registered    Computing        Services Provider  shall be subject to this Act.


(4)    The  Minister may, by notification in the Gazette,suspend the  operation  of  this  Act  in  any  part  of  Malaysia  or  suspend  the operation of any part of this Act
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“Critical National Information Infrastructure(CNII)” refers    to those assets, systems and  functions that  are  vital to the  nation that  their  incapacity  or  destruction would  have a devastating impact  on  National  economic  strength or  National  image  or National  defense  and  security  or  Government  capability  to function or Public health  and  safety;
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The Critical National Information Infrastructure (CNII) sectors are:
National Defence & Security
Banking & Finance
Information & Communications
Energy
Transportation
Water
Health Services
Government
Emergency Services
Food & Agriculture



http://www.nitc.my/index.cfm?&menuid=60

Notice that Government is only a part of the CNII?

Please do not be fooled by Government statements.

We need to make sure that everything is worded accurately in the Bill. Giving our blind consent allows the Government to reinterpret it in whatever manner they choose to once it has been passed.
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post Dec 10 2011, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(BzBody100 @ Dec 8 2011, 09:07 PM)
Get ready to go back to stone age. Siao law. IT is the fastest moving subject and they want to have this law? Bodoh! It is already hard to get GOOD IT people, u want to impose this law. Better be a snatch thief.
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It is already one of the kind of "snatch thief law"!
If this law implement, malaysia for sure going backward of development.
(May be that's what amno still dreaming of it would help for the voting in election)

Other country is moving fast forward with help from IT.
Yet, malaysia show its true "development".
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post Dec 10 2011, 01:05 PM

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post Dec 10 2011, 02:06 PM

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I wonder if the gov/glc staff working in it dept need to be reassess if they fit the bills or not. This will surely impact everybody using/operating IT equipment.

People sell smartphone in garage can be sued if not register yo hmm.gif
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post Dec 10 2011, 03:13 PM

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My gut feeling is some bunch of MOSTI and government servants (who are Undi Munafik Negara Okay - ass-lickers)
are using the "success" of the 6P "pemutihan" solution on the illegal immigrants as an example.
They hope to crush those anti-government IT practitioner,
and weed out the bad hats as they can't control cyberspace.

Basically, a very political motive by (so-called) non-political organisations...sigh shakehead.gif


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post Dec 10 2011, 04:28 PM

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post Dec 10 2011, 07:27 PM

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Kita semua mati mang, everyone in this LYN confirm mati
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post Dec 10 2011, 08:08 PM

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PM: Intellectual capital crucial to nation’s development

IT professional not included??
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post Dec 12 2011, 06:23 PM

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why must they make things worst..

if this thing happen..cant do my modding plan for 2012 vmad.gif
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post Dec 12 2011, 07:13 PM

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post Dec 12 2011, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(Muhammad Nur Hanief @ Dec 12 2011, 07:13 PM)

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post Dec 13 2011, 01:26 AM

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ok i'm going to migrate to australia... terima kasih kepada kerajaan


Added on December 13, 2011, 1:30 amcan't run IT business even i'm malaysian? might as well treat me as foreigner..

This post has been edited by atombom123: Dec 13 2011, 01:30 AM
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post Dec 13 2011, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(BzBody100 @ Dec 8 2011, 09:07 PM)
Get ready to go back to stone age. Siao law. IT is the fastest moving subject and they want to have this law? Bodoh! It is already hard to get GOOD IT people, u want to impose this law. Better be a loan shark.
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