dear dario lawyer, thanks for spending ur precious times to lend us useful hand.i had bought a condo in kl from a bank.as the owner of the hse is a singaporean who had owed his bank quite big amount of money.The bank didnt take the hse for auction,yet take it as normal subsale to get back the money as the singaporean hasnt bancruptcy and now doing his business in australia.In 1992, when the singaporean asked for the loan,he had signed an authorization letter, the letter signed and choped by notary public in singapore as withness, black and white to show that he had given the right to the bank to sell off his houses anytime if he is not able to pay back the debt,n this authorization letter had been validated at high court malaysia in 1992.
Initially,agent didnt tell me about this issue,agent only told me it is property of bank,hence,i decided to buy and i never expected i have to go thru all these difficulties. I signed and paid the booking fee 3% in early of march 2012. And had assigned a lawyer to run everything for me(he is my friend infact).my nightmare started since march.
The s&p only come back to us on 29th of may 2012,after 2 months+ pending at the bank (the bank is in singapore,but they assign a kl lawyer firm to run the show). Just FYI, the s&p signed by bank officer attached with authorization letter,not by the vendor himself,and i had given 4 months + 2 months to settle the loan. 10% downpayment had been paying to the lawyer of singapore bank.
I signed the bank loan offer letter in june. When we proceed for loan agreement, panel lawyer of loan bank suddenly didnt want to accept the authorization letter,as they claimed that the authorization letter should signed and choped by lawyer,not by notary public. Loan bank lawyer gave us a better option, they wish we can get the owner to sign the s&P. Therefore,the things pending all over again.
Lawyer of singapore bank promised wil settle the issue and chase for the vendor signature. I was waiting patiently at initial phase. In september.my lawyer told me,my s&p is on the way back from australia,asked me to b patient. Until october,i cant even c any pc of black n white,my lawyer claimed he had given lawyer of singapore bank a buzz,they claimed the owner was in china now for business trip,wil b back by end of october,ask me to b patient again. Until end of october,the s&p havent come back to me.i was literally agitated,i got the contact number from my lawyer, and ring the bank officer in order to talk to him personally. The outcome of the conversation literally pissed me off. The bank officer claimed they were doing ntg in singapore actually,the s&p sent to neither any party nor any country,just putting on his table. He claimed my lawyer is too much,they able to sell numerous of houses with the same authorization letter (as the singaporen owner has more than 20 houses in malaysia) except mine. He said all of the notary public in singapore are lawyer, thats mean, the person who signed the authorization letter for sure is a lawyer. He recomfirmed he will never able to get the vendor signature to put into the s&p,asked me to discuss with my lawyer and fix it up. It was so annoying as i was waiting here for couple of months, yet he was telling me he did nothing in singapore. Instantly, i felt that his lawyer was cheating me by telling me the s&p had sent to australia. Who know, the lawyer said she get cheated by bank officer also!!!
Started that day onwards,i no longer hav faith in lawyers,until i read ur forum,u r such a nice lawyer who helping us without asking any return. Then, I told my lawyer everything what had been informed by bank officer. However, my lawyer and loan bank lawyer unable to accept the excuse, as they said the authorization letter didnt have lawyer's chop but notary public chop, despite he/she is a lawyer+notary public, the letter consider invalid also. Worst come to worst, lawyer of singapore bank will do something to make sure the things done as singapore bank said they are waiting for my money. Now is in negotation period between loan panel lawyer and singapore bank lawyer.
What i m concern now is, my case had been procastinated since March because of the delay of singapore bank, who can b considered as vendor. They have been dragging my times since March until today, still havent settled yet. Somehow, if i didnt call the singapore bank, perhaps i have to wait "patiently" again n again until today. Can I ask for the compensation? They put a term 4+2 for my loan matter. Then, can I, as a purchaser protect myself with the same term?
By the way,may i know how to calculate the loan agreement legal fee as i hav a panel lawyer from bank n my own lawyer as middle person to run the show. Infact,my lawyer had told me the total amount legal fee of s&p and loan aggrement at the first place. However,i choose to take commercial loan instead of government loan at the end of the day,and the quotation he calculated for me was based on government loan,without any panel lawyer from bank. When i decided to take the commercial loan offer,i was compulsary to take a panel lawyer from the banklist,n i had seek for his advice to take his friend as panel lawyer. I did seek for his advice again for legal fee as i need to prepare sum amount of budget for legal service purpose but he hasnt told me until today .But i really wish to know,i need to pay double legal fee for 2 lawyer (my lawyer as middle person + loan bank panel lawyer)?he had done a very good job for my s&p,but i hope i no need to pay double for loan agreement, is it possible? Thousand thanks and so sorry for bothering!!
Oh ya, dario lawyer, so sorry, one more question, thankssss in advance! When i asked for temporary VP while waiting the loan to be settled, only i notice that the tenant doesnt want to move out, with the reason, he is paying the rental every month, and had been staying there for very long times, he wana stay put and not plan to move out. (as he is paying 1.5k rental, but the rental nowadays suppose b at least 2.2k) Despite lawyer of singapore bank had given him notice ( they self-proclaimed they had talked to the tenant, i am not so sure as i was not on the spot) chasing him out. Now, the lawyer of singapore bank has issued a suit notice and bring the case to the court. May i know how long its take to settle the court case?I did ask my lawyer, wil singapore bank pay me 8% penalty daily once the loan matter being settled, my lawyer told me,singapore bank wont b that stupid, most probably they will settle everything before the 8% penalty kick off. Hence, i am afraid they keep procastinating my case due to the court case havent settled yet. Crucial point here, what should i do to protect my right? I cant ask my lawyer to do anything anymore cos we hav misunderstanding in between, as he was very disgruntled i direct called the lawyer of singapore bank when he was abroad and not around for 2 weeks. I didnt mean to bypassed him, but i was waiting inpatiently and i wish to talk to everyone personally nowadays, especially wanted to inform the singapore lawyer how to get the tenant, as i have the contact number of the tenant and we met few times before, end up, the singapore bank lawyer also didnt want to talk to me, just hang the call!!!!!!!! Is it a mistake for calling the singapore bank lawyer? Anyway, the contact number of the singapore bank lawyer was given by my lawyer, but he was angry and disgruntled when i called them. Thanks lotsaaaaaaa.

The problem is this - can your bank now accept the letter of authorisation executed by the vendor to his bank in 1992, and which is purportedly lodged and registered with the High Court in Malaysia in 1992. Nowadays, we have standardised Power of Attorneys (PA) which are usually accepted by the banks. The question is whether this letter amounts to a PA or otherwise.
It would be impossible for the owner himself to be the vendor as the vendor's bank (the one from singapore) would definitely object to it. They would stand by the contents of the LA dated 1992 to assert their rights to the proceeds of the sale. So the question of a new SPA does not arise.
I think that your lawyer and the loan lawyer should work together to persuade the bank to accept it as a PA. Provided always that the document is acceptable in the first place. I haven't taken a look at it so it would be difficult for me to comment if it should be acceptable. Perhaps another supporting document from the bank would suffice? A notary public is as every good as a lawyer. In fact, if it can be registered and accepted by the Court, why can't your bank do so? So, to insist on it to be executed before a lawyer in S'pore does not arise and not a viable suggestion.
If you have any other questions, kindly list them down properly (and numbered) so that I can advise you properly.