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sonerin
post Dec 6 2011, 08:35 PM

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Well said.
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post Dec 6 2011, 09:08 PM

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I do share ediaikau's opinion.

To be honest, i dont really see much difference on the PQ when watching ahem disc. For AQ, yeap there's drawback here.

Last time tested ahem Avatar vs the origin i bought in LYN... The AQ is totall incomparable. U can really hear alot of details, especially on those minor things around u.

To be honest, sometimes i do buy those BR convert as its really much more affordable than true BR disc, even if its ahem version.

Of course, i do buy originL copy for those worthy collections such as Avatar, LoTR, Mummy, First Class... Etc..
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post Dec 6 2011, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(RoxyMunky @ Dec 6 2011, 09:08 PM)
I do share ediaikau's opinion.

To be honest, i dont really see much difference on the PQ when watching ahem disc. For AQ, yeap there's drawback here.

Last time tested ahem Avatar vs the origin i bought in LYN... The AQ is totall incomparable. U can really hear alot of details, especially on those minor things around u.

To be honest, sometimes i do buy those BR convert as its really much more affordable than true BR disc, even if its ahem version.

Of course, i do buy originL copy for those worthy collections such as Avatar, LoTR, Mummy, First Class... Etc..
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post Dec 6 2011, 09:37 PM

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So conclusion is there is for sure different quality. This should end this discussion on this thread
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post Dec 6 2011, 09:37 PM

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Of course BDR can't compare with BD due mainly to the storage space, currently BDR (50G) vs BD (50G dual layer) but I believe in the near future when 50G dual layer BDR is affordable then the gap in quality will be reduce significantly. Remember last time with DVD D9 could you actually tell the difference between Speedy ori vs Petaling Street Boutique????
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post Dec 6 2011, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(ediaikau @ Dec 6 2011, 09:31 PM)
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Lol

QUOTE(sonerin @ Dec 6 2011, 09:37 PM)
So conclusion is there is for sure different quality. This should end this discussion on this thread
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Yeap.
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post Dec 6 2011, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Dec 6 2011, 09:37 PM)
So conclusion is there is for sure different quality. This should end this discussion on this thread
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Why so eager to end this thread? It's not like I'm promoting piracy. Sharing is caring;)
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post Dec 6 2011, 10:24 PM

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not much difference actually... but still, pls buy original biggrin.gif
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post Dec 6 2011, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(rakyat @ Dec 6 2011, 05:10 PM)
I think u tested wrong format-la. 

Mayb AVI or MKV ripped into BDR coz BD ripped Audio comes in lossless (DTS THD or DTS MA) not DD or DTS and the PQ is definitely better then DVD (at least 720p?)

I would say it is at least 80% ori quality (in terms of AQ & PQ) at 10% pricing.
Besides, only a minority uses BDlive or listen to in movie commentary ect.


Added on December 6, 2011, 5:18 pm

BDR has more titles then BD - check out the new releases, not out for BD but your local shop already stock the BDR  rclxub.gif

Probably upscaled DVD9 with simulated 'DTS MA'  rclxms.gif

I know it is the politically correct thing to say but seriously??? RM150 for a movie when our average household income is RM3k? You mean only the very rich 5% of the population have the right to enjoy FullHD while the rest of the us go watch obsolete tech.

I will risk being ban by stating that it is way more worth it for RM20 BDR even if PQ & AQ is < RM150 BD
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LOL i bewildred by this post and suprised that no one spoke out

- first, typical original bluray is only about RM80 for new movie and not RM150. older movie or during sales season it can go down to as low as RM30 and for boxset less than Rm15 per movie. Did you like even try to find cheaper alternatives or try to buy original to comment?

- secondly, to equate enjoy FullHD to being a right is a joke. It is a luxury and if you cannot afford it then too bad. Living in Malaysia has produce this type of mentality. It is just like saying i'm driving a proton but isn't it my right to have 6 speakers ICE, sunroof and 6 airbags. Isnt it my right to have those too? laugh.gif hence it makes its alright to go and rob a beemer

- lastly, piracy is a crime like stealing no matter how you see it or justify it. Blame the goverment cuz this high price is due to lack of control for media items and also open out piracy but also our much much weaker ringgit malaysia. I'm no saint, i buy pirated stuffs, download porns and don't pay summon but hey at least i don't try to justify it - at least not this way and i do buy original stuff once a while and support movies in cinema


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post Dec 6 2011, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(X-Zen @ Dec 6 2011, 10:25 PM)
LOL i bewildred by this post and suprised that no one spoke out

- first, typical original bluray is only about RM80 for new movie and not RM150. older movie or during sales season it can go down to as low as RM30 and for boxset less than Rm15 per movie. Did you like even try to find cheaper alternatives or try to buy original to comment?

- secondly, to equate enjoy FullHD to being a right is a joke. It is a luxury and if you cannot afford it then too bad. Living in Malaysia has produce this type of mentality. It is just like saying i'm driving a proton but isn't it my right to have 6 speakers ICE, sunroof and 6 airbags. Isnt it my right to have those too?  laugh.gif hence it makes its alright to go and rob a beemer

- lastly, piracy is a crime like stealing no matter how you see it or justify it. Blame the goverment cuz this high price is due to lack of control for media items and also open out piracy but also our much much weaker ringgit malaysia. I'm no saint, i buy pirated stuffs, download porns and don't pay summon but hey at least i don't try to justify it - at least not this way and i do buy original stuff once a while and support movies in cinema
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No reason to speak out since we should respect each others opinion. Anyway this is not the main purpose of this thread whether buying BDR is right or wrong. More towards any difference in PQ/AQ if one were to watch BD vs BDR with entry level home theater & tv.
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post Dec 6 2011, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(ediaikau @ Dec 6 2011, 10:43 PM)
No reason to speak out since we should respect each others opinion. Anyway this is not the main purpose of this thread whether buying BDR is right or wrong. More towards any difference in PQ/AQ if one were to watch BD vs BDR with entry level home theater & tv.
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You are very funny. BDR with unauthorized movie burn/copy into it, in itself already breach the laws, why need to compare it with BD in the first place? whistling.gif

You keep talking just want to compare the PQ and AQ, but you do realize you are indirectly promote or support piracy. Do you? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ediaikau @ Dec 6 2011, 09:37 PM)
Of course BDR can't compare with BD due mainly to the storage space, currently BDR (50G) vs BD (50G dual layer) but I believe in the near future when 50G dual layer BDR is affordable then the gap in quality will be reduce significantly. Remember last time with DVD D9 could you actually tell the difference between Speedy ori vs Petaling Street Boutique????
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Yes, i do see the better quality in br ripped of D9 vs those ori DVDs. Experience on Tansformers 1.

QUOTE(low98944 @ Dec 6 2011, 11:11 PM)
You are very funny.  BDR with unauthorized movie burn/copy into it, in itself already breach the laws, why need to compare it with BD in the first place?  whistling.gif

You keep talking just want to compare the PQ and AQ, but you do realize you are indirectly promote or support piracy. Do you?  whistling.gif
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Everyone just be cool... Chill....

We're only trying to provide some feedback to TS' enquiry, nothing more than that.

Lets keep this thread clean and nice.. biggrin.gif


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post Dec 6 2011, 11:23 PM

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bdr more cheap lo only rm15 now.just wacth tranformer dark of the moon ehem bdr the sound should be dolby true hd but my avr show dts master crazy lo
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post Dec 7 2011, 01:17 AM

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Agree with what X-Zen comment "piracy is a crime like stealing no matter how you see it or justify it".

If piracy keep continuing, one fine day no any studio will continue filming.

Supporting on piracy = indirect educated your next generation on crime.

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post Dec 7 2011, 07:35 AM

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QUOTE(lussen @ Dec 6 2011, 11:23 PM)
bdr more cheap lo only rm15 now.just wacth tranformer dark of the moon ehem bdr the sound should be dolby true hd but my avr show dts master  crazy lo
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Well is not crazy because it is altered in the disc to make your system recognize it that way. Strategy by the people who ripped for better sale.
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post Dec 7 2011, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(low98944 @ Dec 6 2011, 11:11 PM)
You are very funny.  BDR with unauthorized movie burn/copy into it, in itself already breach the laws, why need to compare it with BD in the first place?  whistling.gif

You keep talking just want to compare the PQ and AQ, but you do realize you are indirectly promote or support piracy. Do you?  whistling.gif
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No I'm not promoting piracy. I sure didn't introduce it. We're just doing a comparison just like .mkv downloads. It's there to be compared. Are you saying I just opened a can of worms? Looking at the response BDR actually plays an important role in introducing HD movies to the masses. It's now up to them to decide do they want to upgrade to more high end HD product to enjoy the full benefit of BD. Do you understand...?? Do you? whistling.gif


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QUOTE(ediaikau @ Dec 7 2011, 09:03 AM)
No I'm not promoting piracy. I sure didn't introduce it. We're just doing a comparison just like .mkv downloads. It's there to be compared. Are you saying I just opened a can of worms? Looking at the response BDR actually plays an important role in introducing HD movies to the masses. It's now up to them to decide do they want to upgrade to more high end HD product to enjoy the full benefit of BD. Do you understand...?? Do you? whistling.gif
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You are indirect promote piracy actually. Answer is given, this thread shall be close. wink.gif

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post Dec 7 2011, 09:40 AM

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Funny that in Lowyat Forum we can read thread about how to rip a cd or how to Jailbreak my IPad (ain't both of these also consider stealing?) but we can't have a discussion on BDR.

I'm not questioning anyone's moral high ground and I sure don't like mine to be question. Maybe this site should be rename HypocriteForum.com. So I'm gonna stop giving comment. Don't blame me if someone else still has a thing or two to say about BDR.
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post Dec 7 2011, 09:45 AM

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imho, ppl go for Blu-ray its because ppl want maximum PQ/AQ on their HT setup

if u can "compromise" the PQ/AQ and settle for a BDR, why dont straight go for high quality rips. (even save more $)

lets compare :

BDR
Pros = Cheap?
Cons = Altered contents, compressed PQ/AQ, substandard disc quality, "illegal" property

Original BD
Pros = Original contents, Extra contents (Bonus features, BD-Live, Digital Copy, etc), maximum PQ/AQ, better disc quality, better packaging, Legal property
Cons = Pricier than BDR?

at the end of the day, its all about cost/$$ (personal preference and choice)

what happen if u can purchase original BD at the price of BDR? rolleyes.gif brows.gif will u still choose BDR?

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post Dec 7 2011, 11:40 AM

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bluray is digital media...containing data...i.e ones and zeros...
so 10101010101 be it on a normal disc...gold disc... pariah disc...or file format... end of the day...is still gonna be the same 10101010101....

This post has been edited by yonggoh: Dec 7 2011, 11:41 AM

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