Hi all, I'm not sure if it's legal to bring up this topic. Is there a big difference between original Bluray vs BDR (ahem) for someone who is not a videophile? Lately a lot of places we can source for BDR as compare to 1-2 years back. Don't get me wrong I do buy original Bluray but usually for classic titles such as Saving Private Ryan or LOTR. But lately since it's easier (not to mention cheaper) to buy BDR, I've been stocking up on some titles.

The question here is, is there a huge difference in terms of video/audio? I've got a few titles to compare and to be honest I'm quite happy with the quality of the BDR. I know an original Bluray has a bigger capacity (up to 50G dual layer) as compare to a BDR (25G or 50G), therefor the quality is compromised. Maybe there's a difference for full hd tv as compare to HD ready? Even the audio for BDR we still get HD audio since my Yamaha amp could still detect Dolby True HD & DTS HD Master Audio.

I've even tested the 3d titles (50G BDR) which comes with 2 versions (2d & 3d) of the film. As ever I'm quite impress with the 3d effect. However for some older titles such as Jurrassic Park I notice a lot of grainy pictures during night scenes, perhaps due to the limitation of BDR capacity? What do you guys think?

Please don't get me wrong, I'm not in any way promoting BDR (ahem) over original Bluray. Just wanna see what would be the response for this topic. Feel free to share fellas!

So u mean if we could re-compress a few more cycles the grainy part will be reduce?

You have a point here based on old malam DVD which we still could choose Dolby 5.1 or DTS. But the current BDR's audio could still bring the house down during scenes with LFE. But of course we could detect the details lost if one were to use hi-end speakers???

Gasp...!!!! Taboo to promote ahem ahem cough cough here....!!! Just kidding, there's no harm in sharing your opinion. Anyway what's the difference between buying BDR vs downloading .mkv movie files??? As though those downloaders are paying for them?

Anyways, back to the topic which is BD vs BDR, I feel that you can only enjoy the maximum quality of an original BD provided you have 1.)At least 50'' full hd tv - to appreciate the clarity. 2.)A good quality bluray player?? - am not sure if this makes any difference since I read in cnet that when we use hdmi as connecting medium for video/audio the info signal either reach or don't reach at all (meaning there's actually no difference in quality whether it's entry level Phillips or high end Oppo bluray player). 3.)High end receivers to read HD audio - Dolby True HD/DTS HD Master Audio. 4.)High end 7.1 speakers (which includes a mean ass subwoofer) to have a cinematic experience.

As compare to average user with 1.)32-50'' HD ready tv. 2.)Entry level Phillips player. 3.)Entry level Yamaha 5.1. 4.)Jalan Pasar bundle 5.1 speakers.....I believe BDR will be sufficient.

Ahem ahem cough sneeze cough cough.......this flu is contagious...

Of course BDR can't compare with BD due mainly to the storage space, currently BDR (50G) vs BD (50G dual layer) but I believe in the near future when 50G dual layer BDR is affordable then the gap in quality will be reduce significantly. Remember last time with DVD D9 could you actually tell the difference between Speedy ori vs Petaling Street Boutique????

Why so eager to end this thread? It's not like I'm promoting piracy. Sharing is caring;)

No reason to speak out since we should respect each others opinion. Anyway this is not the main purpose of this thread whether buying BDR is right or wrong. More towards any difference in PQ/AQ if one were to watch BD vs BDR with entry level home theater & tv.

No I'm not promoting piracy. I sure didn't introduce it. We're just doing a comparison just like .mkv downloads. It's there to be compared. Are you saying I just opened a can of worms? Looking at the response BDR actually plays an important role in introducing HD movies to the masses. It's now up to them to decide do they want to upgrade to more high end HD product to enjoy the full benefit of BD. Do you understand...?? Do you?

Funny that in Lowyat Forum we can read thread about how to rip a cd or how to Jailbreak my IPad (ain't both of these also consider stealing?) but we can't have a discussion on BDR.

I'm not questioning anyone's moral high ground and I sure don't like mine to be question. Maybe this site should be rename HypocriteForum.com. So I'm gonna stop giving comment. Don't blame me if someone else still has a thing or two to say about BDR.

Sorry I can't help it but to return my comment here although I did made a vow not to, (sorry to disappoint those airheads who can't make any concrete comment apart from 'this thread is close'). Like I mention before this topic has been in everyone's mind just that no one wants to open the pandora's box and be accused of 'promoting piracy'.

Let's face the facts, who here can claim that in their lifetime they have never download torrent films/music, buy ahem cd/vcd/DVD? It's not that I'm trying to justify whether or not it's right or wrong. It's definitely NOT right to buy any form of piracy. But actually we're here to make a genuine comparison whether there is a difference to a low budget HT kaki in terms of AQ/PQ. If we can convince/educate people that there is actually so much benefit we can gain from getting a BD then I strongly believe we can eradicate piracy in the form of 'ahem ahem cough cough BDR'

Everyone has a right to enjoy HD movie, irregards of BD or BDR. No one has the right to criticize or look down on those who stand on the 'wrong' side of the fence (ahem ahem cough cough). Everyone needs to start somewhere right? By learning to appreciate the plus point of BD only will more consumers take the Full HD leapt of faith to join the genuine BD supporters group.

Even myself would love to learn to appreciate the finer side of BD, to buy the best equiptment from HTkaki or get my calibration from Anfield Dude. That is why I started this thread....to learn from all the experience members here. But I have to start my learning process the hard way with my hd ready tv, entry level Yamaha receiver, Pasar Road 5.1 speakers, BD & BDR to compare. To be honest with my entry level HD gadget I can't tell any bloody difference.

I'm sure a lot of members here would be able to identify or share my predicament. And that is the whole point of having a forum, to share and learn from each other. I sincerely would like to thank those who had contributed valuable info in this thread. I learn so much from you guys. To those holier than thou whatever you call yourself......"and therefore never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee."

This post has been edited by ediaikau: Dec 8 2011, 12:28 AM