Hi all, I'm not sure if it's legal to bring up this topic. Is there a big difference between original Bluray vs BDR (ahem) for someone who is not a videophile? Lately a lot of places we can source for BDR as compare to 1-2 years back. Don't get me wrong I do buy original Bluray but usually for classic titles such as Saving Private Ryan or LOTR. But lately since it's easier (not to mention cheaper) to buy BDR, I've been stocking up on some titles.

The question here is, is there a huge difference in terms of video/audio? I've got a few titles to compare and to be honest I'm quite happy with the quality of the BDR. I know an original Bluray has a bigger capacity (up to 50G dual layer) as compare to a BDR (25G or 50G), therefor the quality is compromised. Maybe there's a difference for full hd tv as compare to HD ready? Even the audio for BDR we still get HD audio since my Yamaha amp could still detect Dolby True HD & DTS HD Master Audio.

I've even tested the 3d titles (50G BDR) which comes with 2 versions (2d & 3d) of the film. As ever I'm quite impress with the 3d effect. However for some older titles such as Jurrassic Park I notice a lot of grainy pictures during night scenes, perhaps due to the limitation of BDR capacity? What do you guys think?

Please don't get me wrong, I'm not in any way promoting BDR (ahem) over original Bluray. Just wanna see what would be the response for this topic. Feel free to share fellas!

No difference (ahem) I think. The quality (.. cough.. cough) depends entirely on the (Ahh Choo !!) amount of data encrypted. More detail imagery will (Sneeeze... ) have bigger data to store. Hence (** fart **) the fact that its (Ptttui.. )BDR or BD source does not (uwek!!) matter .

Hope it (...cough... ah ptui !) helps.

the "grainy" is in the content itself the film, and has nothing to do with the disc capacity.

Re-compression doesn't produce grains, in fact it reduces them.

So u mean if we could re-compress a few more cycles the grainy part will be reduce?

Well for the audio part, even the older DVD which is from malam modify to detect hd or dts. That only depend on how they want to do it. Is preference of the buyer to judge on original or not

Yes, but lose details as well, its a process to shrink the file size.

You have a point here based on old malam DVD which we still could choose Dolby 5.1 or DTS. But the current BDR's audio could still bring the house down during scenes with LFE. But of course we could detect the details lost if one were to use hi-end speakers???

I can assure for the loud "boom" and those so called LFE can be reproduce even with bdr easily as what it was done those pasar malam DVD. Sound without quality is just noise

This post has been edited by sonerin: Dec 6 2011, 07:40 AM

If you care to check the bit rate from the display button of your remote, you may see that the 'ahem' stuff has lower value than the original one, especially for PQ. It all depends on how much the 'pirate' would want to compress the original during the production stage.

I think the Dolby True HD & DTS HD MA is not really lossless as I have compared BD vs. BDR (although not same movie) BDR seems alot softer (most shows need to crank to 15) and heavily rely on the centre speaker while BD is louder (normally watch at 25) and audio separation is better.

For the video part not much difference (mayb my 6 yo LCD not so sharp as LED)

I do compare few before, PQ wise certain movies had big impact on it, certain not, depends on the BDR quality as well the origin film in transfer.

Anyway, origin can assure play fine, I do face certain BDR is skipping and even worst having skip frame record before.

Beside this, BDR is not really cheap actually. You can get nicer price on older titles or promotion titles anytime at Amazon.

Always check here for great deal.

http://www.blu-ray.com/deals/?sortby=time&category=bluray

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Dec 6 2011, 10:13 AM

I agree on the pricing. Just recently i bought x-men first class for 9.90 USD only

actually DTS THD and DTS MA have separate the audio between center speaker and left&right speakers...

as my previously silly mistakes, i no able to hear any vocal (talking & speech & converstation) from left&right speaker at all, only the action background sound only... thought my movies files problem or my amp or my media player problem... but i found out that i forgot to reconnect my center speaker cable back to amp... means the any vocal come from center speaker only and never come from other speakers....

here ... have a panadol. sounds like you're falling sick.

tested a few BDR from friend, packing and printing quality a bit cheap (not clear)
didnt find a problem when playing movie with [DD] and DTS tracks
i it cost cheaper but definately not for movie collectors

i've heard PQ not much difference but alot of difference in AQ. BDR always carry the risk of disc skipping or even unplayable

BDR is readily available with less titles choice whereas original by standard shipping can make one wait hell a lot of long time and carry the risk of holding-up by ketam . keep me in suspense while waiting for purchases arrival

originals are price reasonably nowadays but one need to keep following those internet websites for price change almost daily

i would say originals are much more worth it so go for it

This post has been edited by sunnyK: Dec 6 2011, 01:49 PM

I think u tested wrong format-la.

Mayb AVI or MKV ripped into BDR coz BD ripped Audio comes in lossless (DTS THD or DTS MA) not DD or DTS and the PQ is definitely better then DVD (at least 720p?)

I would say it is at least 80% ori quality (in terms of AQ & PQ) at 10% pricing.
Besides, only a minority uses BDlive or listen to in movie commentary ect.

---

Added on December 6, 2011, 5:18 pmBDR has more titles then BD - check out the new releases, not out for BD but your local shop already stock the BDR

Probably upscaled DVD9 with simulated 'DTS MA'

I know it is the politically correct thing to say but seriously??? RM150 for a movie when our average household income is RM3k? You mean only the very rich 5% of the population have the right to enjoy FullHD while the rest of the us go watch obsolete tech.

I will risk being ban by stating that it is way more worth it for RM20 BDR even if PQ & AQ is < RM150 BD

This post has been edited by rakyat: Dec 6 2011, 05:18 PM

Take it cool buddy this is a discussion thread. No right or wrong

But also indirectly promote pirated copy.

Gasp...!!!! Taboo to promote ahem ahem cough cough here....!!! Just kidding, there's no harm in sharing your opinion. Anyway what's the difference between buying BDR vs downloading .mkv movie files??? As though those downloaders are paying for them?

Anyways, back to the topic which is BD vs BDR, I feel that you can only enjoy the maximum quality of an original BD provided you have 1.)At least 50'' full hd tv - to appreciate the clarity. 2.)A good quality bluray player?? - am not sure if this makes any difference since I read in cnet that when we use hdmi as connecting medium for video/audio the info signal either reach or don't reach at all (meaning there's actually no difference in quality whether it's entry level Phillips or high end Oppo bluray player). 3.)High end receivers to read HD audio - Dolby True HD/DTS HD Master Audio. 4.)High end 7.1 speakers (which includes a mean ass subwoofer) to have a cinematic experience.

As compare to average user with 1.)32-50'' HD ready tv. 2.)Entry level Phillips player. 3.)Entry level Yamaha 5.1. 4.)Jalan Pasar bundle 5.1 speakers.....I believe BDR will be sufficient.